# Happier on Ammo than IS

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happier-on-ammo-than-is/55385>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 25, 2012, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happier-on-ammo-than-is/55385 "2012-04-25T13:03:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Cjohnson446](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@Cjohnson446](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cjohnson446)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happier-on-ammo-than-is/55385/1 "2012-04-25T13:03:04Z")

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Hi, I’ve tried both solo and in combinations. When trying solo, I’ve noticed I’m much happier with 2-3 sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) than I am with 2-4 sprays of IS. Other people seem happier around me with Ammo as well. What does that same about my body chemistry? I’m 26 and have been told not to use too much, so I’ve never tried more than 3 sprays Ammo. But 3 sprays gets me feeling great! Happy, flirty, horny, talkative, and people around me respond better too. I know that everyone responds differently to different products and dosages, but what does this say about my particular body chemistry?

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**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 1:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happier-on-ammo-than-is/55385/2 "2012-04-25T13:23:16Z")

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> [@Cjohnson446](#):
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> Hi, I’ve tried both solo and in combinations. When trying solo, I’ve noticed I’m much happier with 2-3 sprays of Ammo than I am with 2-4 sprays of IS. Other people seem happier around me with Ammo as well. What does that same about my body chemistry? I’m 26 and have been told not to use too much, so I’ve never tried more than 3 sprays Ammo. But 3 sprays gets me feeling great! Happy, flirty, horny, talkative, and people around me respond better too. I know that everyone responds differently to different products and dosages, but what does this say about my particular body chemistry?

It says your your a good looking, handsome, admirable, athletic, clean cut, dapper young man lol

I don’t know, doesn’t say anything really, everyone is different that’s why there’s a test phase to see what works best for you, where to spray and how much. Some people can handle one product and not another. Like A1 some people love it some people get depressed. Some people like brussel sprouts some people don’t 😛

I don’t think anyone can tell you about your personal body chemistry, not on a forum anyways. They don’t know you and have never met you. The only thing we can tell you is our own experiences and you can pull what info you can from that.

That’s my 2 cents anyways.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happier-on-ammo-than-is/55385/3 "2012-04-25T13:25:47Z")

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Like I’ve said many times, IS didn’t do much at all for me while Ammo is my 2nd favorite AD product, right after A314. If I only use one product, I mostly choose Ammo.  
It’s just a damn good standalone.

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**Author:** ![Cjohnson446](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@Cjohnson446](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cjohnson446)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happier-on-ammo-than-is/55385/4 "2012-04-25T14:12:15Z")

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Thanks for the help. I guess the question I should have asked was: If I respond great to 2-3 sprays of Ammo even though I’m moderately young, which other products would I respond well to? I’ve had girls tell me I’m too nice before, so I looked at [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/), but I don’t want to spend $120 on a product nobody seems to know much about.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happier-on-ammo-than-is/55385/5 "2012-04-25T14:22:39Z")

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I know enough about IJ. It’s fun in the daytime, but I’m not wearing it again in nighttime. Makes other guys think I’m an asshole that needs to be tamed, however they also think I’m a badass asshole so they stand down. Some day some guy won’t stand down and I’ll have a problem. So I leave it on the shelf when I’m about to go to the pub.

Never would I pay 120 bucks for it. Buy straight none and some [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). If you happen to like that combo you might have to fork out the serious money to get IJ and satisfy your curiosity.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happier-on-ammo-than-is/55385/6 "2012-04-25T14:47:12Z")

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> [@Cjohnson446](#):
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> so I looked at Instant Jerk, but I don’t want to spend $120 on a product nobody seems to know much about.

What…? 😮

IJ is a very well understood and discussed product. There are many detailed threads about it right here in this forum.

At its most basic, IJ is an intentional none OD, with all the good and bad that entails. 3 sprays of Ammo is still only just over half of the none content of one spray of IJ and Ammo also has the balance of nol and rone - Which IJ does not.

If you are looking to reduce the “niceness” of Ammo, try adding an equal number of sprays of TUTH - that will raise the none proportion to 2:1:1 (none:nol:rone) and add sexual steering without losing the social moderation of the nol and rone. A more attractive proposition all-round.

The happy feelings you get on Ammo may well be down to the different types of confidence boost you get from none and rone, combined with the cheery/bubbly feelings induced by the nol - and TBH, I too get more from nols than I do from the TAA in IS.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happier-on-ammo-than-is/55385/7 "2012-04-25T15:06:50Z")

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I don’t know what it is but ammo has been working “differently” for me lately. I get better results with it than heavy none mixes. As you know I’ve been taking HGH lately and seeing results in my energy, mood etc and getting better sleep. Since I’ve started the Hgh therapy I find ammo is working differently for me.

I get a fun flirty playful guy vibe out of it. I am more confident with women. I approach models and they talk to me. One thing I’ve noticed is its a blonde magnets dream. Either that or my attributes are attracting blondes for different reasons.

I like ammo a lot… I can stand up for myself without being hot tempered. I can control my hormones… Over age 40 I am more inclined to move slowly from kissing to foreplay to more than just outright ONS. Ammo compliments this smoother signature nicely.

I also get a lot of hits from younger women (20 somethings). I find ammo works best on its own when I’m in a good mood. I find IS tames it too much giving me the church bingo mood. If I’m feeling rather tense ammo just ramps that up and I get nothing.

Feeling confident, rested, and flirty, and ammo all on its own seems to be pulling chicks to me like magnets… I must of number closed 5 women this afternoon with it on which is unusual for me.

I truly believe that this ammo stuff does what it says WHEN your feeling confident ,in a good mood and well rested. Feeling down, depressed, tense, angry etc and it does nothing for me.

I should make note of the scent I used… Its definitely wasn’t ff21.. It was either neroli or akuto… I’m willing to bet dollars it was neroli as I can notice akuto fairly well.

I don’t give all credit to ammo. Roy Dillon has helped me infinitely this past 2 weeks getting me on the hgh bandwagon and for my age I am noticing differences in days not months. I look forward to improving on a holistic level (physical, financial, personality etc) and not just relying on mones.

But I swear ammo is not contributing to 5 or 10% like people say mones do.. It is helping my interactions by 20% or more.

dsouza

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**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happier-on-ammo-than-is/55385/8 "2012-04-25T15:13:41Z")

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Yeah IJ and IO and IH have jumped in price [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and IS are still okay. I would wait to see if the price goes down. It’s true you can just go buy straight none for much cheaper.

I would have to go with the TUTH if you want more of a bad boy, sexual vibe going. The cheapest way is to just stop being so nice 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cjohnson446](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@Cjohnson446](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cjohnson446)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happier-on-ammo-than-is/55385/9 "2012-04-25T16:59:35Z")

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Thanks for the great responses! I got a date both times I wore the TUTH+Ammo+A314 mix. One of the girls told me “I’d like to go out Sunday night if you’re free” and then a few days later canceled because she said she was involved and didn’t want to give me the wrong impression LOL WTF so she WANTED to when I was around her (wearing A314+Ammo+TUTH+IS) but then rationalized it later…next time I was around her, she said she wants to study..so we’ll see how things go. Thanks for all the help.
