# hard water and pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 2, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hard-water-and-pheromones/63766 "2015-02-02T03:03:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hard-water-and-pheromones/63766/1 "2015-02-02T03:03:05Z")
I live in area that has very hard water and it dries my skin out. I went out and bought a shower head filter to remove all the chemicals they put in the water. My skin is much better now. I wear Ammo the most and I would usually get 4 to 5 hours out of it before I couldn’t smell the scent anymore. After I installed shower filter I now notice stays on for 6 to 7 now. I was just wondering if the chemicals in the water react with our own [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 9:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hard-water-and-pheromones/63766/2 "2015-02-02T09:22:21Z")
Wow … here where i live we have very very hard water as well and i did not think about the water affecting the mones i get better effects over all when i dont use “normal” shower gel .. i’m down to using mainly bath salt or that type based stuff to shower as there is a lot of stuff that is reacting with mones out there i’d like to hear the input of Brian here cheers, Pago ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hard-water-and-pheromones/63766/3 "2015-02-02T15:37:35Z")
You may have some binding of pheros to residual ionic complexes on skin left from hard soap. Liquid soaps or softened water offer less residue on skin and less on tub/shower. With hard water or bar soap, you could have a kind of soap scum on skin. [Soap scum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_scum) Androstenone might tend to get sticky to any residual fatty molecules on skin. It depends upon the hardness minerals, soap/body wash used and the specific pheros. [Why It’s Harder to Rinse off Soap with Soft Water](http://chemistry.about.com/od/howthingsworkfaqs/a/softwaterrinse.htm) Pheromones are soluble in alcohol; stearates in soap scum not. You’d like oils and dead skin (which cling pheros) to wash off cleanly with no residue. You might try distilled water and mild, pH neutral liquid wash (stuff that says non-comedogenic) to leave a clean skin with no residue. Depends what softener unit you have. Many recommend you’ll use less clothes detergent than the package label. Go easy with cleaners in the shower as they’ll foam heavily and are harder to rinse clean. A few companies sell special cleaners for that. Brian might suggest a vendor he approves. Many good links at [About.com](http://About.com). They’ve taken to hiring proper experts (this one has a chem PhD) and are a bit less maths and physics than Wikipedia. Easy for the avg. reader. [How Detergents Work](http://chemistry.about.com/od/howthingswork/f/detergentfaq.htm) ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hard-water-and-pheromones/63766/4 "2015-02-02T20:56:34Z")
My wife was the one that noticed the scent lasts longer. We dont have a water softner just the shower head filter. I havent changed anything else. I use dial magnetic as it was on sale and a salt crystal for deodorant and no colgne. I always spray 2 sprays of regular [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) after i get out of the shower. I dont used any lotion or anything. I will try a test with some of the others in my collection and see what i get. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 3:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hard-water-and-pheromones/63766/5 "2015-02-27T03:42:18Z")
OK so I have been testing some of my other pheromones and thus hard water theory. TAA lasts about 5 hours where I normally get about 3 and a half hours, the effects are about the same to. If I wear Ammo it seems to last all day. So my thought is the showerhead filter filters out the chlorine in the water. I don’t know for sure but my thought is the chlorine reacts with the pheromones.