# Has Ammo changed **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 6, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-ammo-changed/53172 "2011-11-06T16:41:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dewhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f19dbf/32.png) [@dewhal](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dewhal)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-ammo-changed/53172/1 "2011-11-06T16:41:13Z")
Hi all! Ive read a few posts recently about v1.1 of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) - has it really changed? If so, what has changed? The scent or the effects? I’m about to put an order in and just wanted to know in advance… Thanks, dewhal ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-ammo-changed/53172/2 "2011-11-06T16:43:47Z")
Ammo changed a few years back - there must been hundreds of threads if you want to look. Those posts related to a guy who was still using a bottle from 2005/6. If you have bought in the last couple of years, no difference. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-ammo-changed/53172/3 "2011-11-06T17:28:23Z")
The original Ammo scent I liked and was extremely similar to Nautica Completion (yellow bottle). They were so close I used to buy “heavy” Ammo and mix down to Ammo 1X with Nautica Completion. I did this to save money as a large bottle of Completion was only $19 at Ross, enough to cut 3 bottles of Ammo 2X to 1X. Unfortunately the scent has changed several times and, last I tried, smells like sour soap fragrance. Not a pleasant scent in my opinion. Androtics is constantly tweaking the mone formula so we can only guess what’s in there. The main components were once none, nol and rone plus small amounts of undisclosed steering and buffering mones. My impression is the earlier variants of Ammo had more balls while the newer versions are designed to be more mellow and social. A314 seems to have gone a similar direction. Both now require supplements to “horn” up to previous levels. ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-ammo-changed/53172/4 "2011-11-07T06:47:14Z")
Ammo Version 1.0 is from 2005 (Scent is nasty called “Game”, effects are strange) Ammo Version 1.1 is from 2010 (Scent is acceptable and fresh called “FF21”, effects are crazy) (Ammo version 1.1 **double strength** , my all time favorite product!) ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 11:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-ammo-changed/53172/5 "2011-11-07T11:02:25Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Androtics is constantly tweaking the mone formula so we can only guess what’s in there. The main components were once none, nol and rone plus small amounts of undisclosed steering and buffering mones. My impression is the earlier variants of Ammo had more balls while the newer versions are designed to be more mellow and social. A314 seems to have gone a similar direction. Both now require supplements to “horn” up to previous levels. I came across an old MHarris post recently stating that the early form of Ammo was just none, nol, rone and TAA but it appears the TAA was dropped in later versions. This would maybe explain why Ammo/IS has become such a good/popular combo in the years since? ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-ammo-changed/53172/6 "2011-11-07T22:15:00Z")
I was reading on [love-scent.com](http://love-scent.com) that they really like AMMO over there but almost everyone seems to hate the “game” scent. They also said that the original AMMO had only 3 [pheromones](https://a314.com/) but that the later version contains 3 pheromones with added secret pheromones. > [@](#): > > For me, Ammo is a good hit > > generator. I use heavy ammo which is a 2x concentration. > > I think that AE is very easy to OD, but when it > > hits, it really hits hard. > > I have thought about mixing AE with a little ethanol to tone it down a bit but I > [@](#): > > been using Ammo and its amazing! for the 1st time i covered just 1 Ammo with 2 Aqua da gio at a club, and > > girls were grinding up against me, moving from other end of the dance floor to invade my personal space, etc. > > DIHL’s from a Latina, [latins love this stuff], then she volunteers her number which never usually happens. > [@](#): > > there…A314/Ammo is a nice combo…but i think Ammo offers more on its own as a stand alone. funny thing? got > > really bad repsonses from it when i 1st started, now, months later, cant go wrong with it. > [@](#): > > IS - average. but killer combo. when > > combined with Ammo. at the right ratios, i am the alpha king. > [@](#): > > but definately the simple 1-2 Ammo’s > > with your favourite cologne. eg. Aqua Da Gio ---
**Author:** ![skeptical001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@skeptical001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skeptical001)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-ammo-changed/53172/7 "2011-11-09T23:38:22Z")
> [@thomaslavoie](#): > > Ammo Version 1.0 is from 2005 (Scent is nasty called “Game”, effects are strange) > Ammo Version 1.1 is from 2010 (Scent is acceptable and fresh called “FF21”, effects are crazy) > > (Ammo version 1.1 **double strength** , my all time favorite product!) I just looked at the bottom of my AMMO bottle. It says version 1.0a. I ordered it end of October 2011. Shouldn’t I have 1.1? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 9:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-ammo-changed/53172/8 "2011-11-10T09:56:23Z")
And the bottle of Heavy Ammo I’ve got here is v1.0b - from march this year. You don’t need to worry too much about versions though - John has already explained that even very minor changes to the secondary components can result in a revision. It can be as simple as the alcohol coming from a different supplier. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-ammo-changed/53172/9 "2011-11-13T02:13:25Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > The original Ammo scent I liked and was extremely similar to Nautica Completion (yellow bottle). They were so close I used to buy “heavy” Ammo and mix down to Ammo 1X with Nautica Completion. I did this to save money as a large bottle of Completion was only $19 at Ross, enough to cut 3 bottles of Ammo 2X to 1X. Unfortunately the scent has changed several times and, last I tried, smells like sour soap fragrance. Not a pleasant scent in my opinion. > > Androtics is constantly tweaking the mone formula so we can only guess what’s in there. The main components were once none, nol and rone plus small amounts of undisclosed steering and buffering mones. My impression is the earlier variants of Ammo had more balls while the newer versions are designed to be more mellow and social. A314 seems to have gone a similar direction. Both now require supplements to “horn” up to previous levels. I still got the ORIGINAL ammo! Unfortunately, I ran out of the game version ☹ ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-ammo-changed/53172/10 "2011-11-13T02:28:53Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > I still got the ORIGINAL ammo! Unfortunately, I ran out of the game version ☹ Don’t worry, game stinks bad.