# Has anyone ever attended a PUA seminar?

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**Created:** [August 13, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-ever-attended-a-pua-seminar/40789 "2010-08-13T17:41:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-ever-attended-a-pua-seminar/40789/1 "2010-08-13T17:41:14Z")

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I haven’t. Just wondering what your experiences were? It just seems PUA game and Mones can go well together.

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**Author:** ![jimminycricket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@jimminycricket](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jimminycricket)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-ever-attended-a-pua-seminar/40789/2 "2010-08-13T19:33:19Z")

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I’ve been to one or two seminars.

If you’re asking about my experiences with seminars, they’re not all that impressive to be honest. Most info can be found in books/files.

If you’re wondering about my experiences in field with mones: haven’t done so yet, but I JUST got my first order, and plan on using it soon.

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-ever-attended-a-pua-seminar/40789/3 "2010-08-13T20:55:36Z")

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You can learn from watching videos or reading books, but there’s nothing better than doing anything with an actual coach watching you whether that is golfing, batting, or pick up.

My suggestion is if you do anything, find a seminar that offers in field training after the classes where there is almost a 1:1 ratio of instructors to students.

What these guys will do is not just push you beyond your comfort levels, but as you go in on approaches they will monitor your body language, your tonality among other things and let you know exactly what you’re doing wrong each and every time, as well as be there to cheer your successes.

Some reputable companies:  
Real Social Dynamics: Papa and Tyler Derden  
[Real Social Dynamics Nation](http://www.rsdnation.com)  
Love Systems formerly Mystery Method:  
[Love Systems, formerly Mystery Method Corp.](http://www.lovesystems.com/)  
Pick Up 101 with Lance Mason :  
[PickUp 101 - Attract The Women You Desire](http://www.pickup101.com/)  
Then there is Venusian Arts / Mystery Method:  
[Mystery Method author | VH1?s Pick-Up Artist | The Pickup Artist: The New and Improved Art of Seduction](http://www.venusianarts.com/)

Here’s a good place to start with 3 + years worth of convention videos for free:  
[The 21 Convention|The World’s #1 Men’s Convention](http://www.the21convention.com/)

Good luck in whatever you choose.

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**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-ever-attended-a-pua-seminar/40789/4 "2010-08-13T23:59:59Z")

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I did the weekend bootcamp with Real Social Dynamics…back then it cost me $1500. But it was invaluable, for being FORCED to approach, approach, approach…frankly I don’t think its for beginners…because, they give you a quick run down, but if you dont have info already, you’ll likely, get shut donw sooo many freakin times in a night, you might not every apporach a women again…it made me physically ill, …i had some good and some bad, but a LOTTA shutdowns, shit tests …if i could easly afford it, now with mones and the experience I have I’d do it again…cause the point is it’s suppossed to be FUN…but for me the 3 days was anything but FUN…

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**Author:** ![jimminycricket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@jimminycricket](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jimminycricket)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-ever-attended-a-pua-seminar/40789/5 "2010-08-14T12:00:01Z")

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PS. bootcamps and seminars are two different things. And both is better than the sum of its parts

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**Author:** ![JAYCEE1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JAYCEE1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JAYCEE1)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-ever-attended-a-pua-seminar/40789/6 "2010-08-14T13:02:24Z")

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> [@thegentleman](#):
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> You can learn from watching videos or reading books, but there’s nothing better than doing anything with an actual coach watching you whether that is golfing, batting, or pick up.
> 
> My suggestion is if you do anything, find a seminar that offers in field training after the classes where there is almost a 1:1 ratio of instructors to students.
> 
> What these guys will do is not just push you beyond your comfort levels, but as you go in on approaches they will monitor your body language, your tonality among other things and let you know exactly what you’re doing wrong each and every time, as well as be there to cheer your successes.
> 
> Some reputable companies:  
> Real Social Dynamics: Papa and Tyler Derden  
> [Real Social Dynamics Nation](http://www.rsdnation.com)  
> Love Systems formerly Mystery Method:  
> [Love Systems, formerly Mystery Method Corp.](http://www.lovesystems.com/)  
> Pick Up 101 with Lance Mason :  
> [PickUp 101 - Attract The Women You Desire](http://www.pickup101.com/)  
> Then there is Venusian Arts / Mystery Method:  
> [Mystery Method author | VH1?s Pick-Up Artist | The Pickup Artist: The New and Improved Art of Seduction](http://www.venusianarts.com/)
> 
> Here’s a good place to start with 3 + years worth of convention videos for free:  
> [The 21 Convention|The World’s #1 Men’s Convention](http://www.the21convention.com/)
> 
> Good luck in whatever you choose.

Reps to TG, looks like good info.

I went through a bootcamp a couple of years back but all of the information was too new to for me to absorb it.

I think you can get the seminar effect through videos.

The right mones make pickup much easier.

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**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-ever-attended-a-pua-seminar/40789/8 "2010-08-14T16:02:06Z")

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thanks for all your responses! I think I have gotten the majority of pua info from forums and youtube..actually a youtube search for pua has a shit load of info…

really good insight to the poster who stressed one on one coaching

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-ever-attended-a-pua-seminar/40789/9 "2010-08-14T16:14:29Z")

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> [@giants52000](#):
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> thanks for all your responses! I think I have gotten the majority of pua info from forums and youtube..actually a youtube search for pua has a shit load of info…
> 
> really good insight to the poster who stressed one on one coaching

I’d go read stuff and newsletters from David DeAngelo and Vin DeCarlo.

I’m not the best out there and can pick up any girl at any time. But once I get an IOI I’m pretty much in. It’s all about lighthearted fun, confidence in yourself, and respect for others.

The rest, that I’ve read/watched, have been so canned and proceduralized that something inside me just doesn’t feel genuine to me.

However, for One night stands do it, but if you still have confidence or approach issues, then I would work from the inside out first.

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-ever-attended-a-pua-seminar/40789/10 "2010-08-14T20:24:38Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> I’d go read stuff and newsletters from David DeAngelo and Vin DeCarlo.
> 
> I’m not the best out there and can pick up any girl at any time. But once I get an IOI I’m pretty much in. It’s all about lighthearted fun, confidence in yourself, and respect for others.
> 
> The rest, that I’ve read/watched, have been so canned and proceduralized that something inside me just doesn’t feel genuine to me.
> 
> However, for One night stands do it, but if you still have confidence or approach issues, then I would work from the inside out first.

I like DeAngelo as well because his more advanced stuff focuses on Inner Game.

However, let me just say, working on the inside out is great and all. But sometimes people need to see some success to keep them motivated, so there’s nothing wrong with learning “techniques” first that get you up and running, while you do work on that inner game over time, because there can be some deep seeded issues that may take months for a guy to fix.

In the end, I’m all about more natural pick-up, because if you can do it “naturally” using the skill set you developed i.e. self-esteem, confidence, congruence, purpose, passion and much more, then you’re definitely going to find more high quality women and work into more LTR’s.
