# Have anyone combined Androticsdirect pheros with love-scent pheros with good results? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 14, 2007, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652 "2007-07-14T22:09:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/21 "2007-07-19T03:10:12Z")
> [@jojobiz](#): > > perception didn’t do anything for me either. u might wanna give Aquagen a try instead. Hmm, Aquagen,… ok you have my interest. So whats your and anyone else experience with it? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/22 "2007-07-19T03:28:56Z")
I was a tester for unscented Aquagen. It has an obvious pheromone smell, and strongly reminds me of the smell of A-1 and androstAnone. (sorta a mellow androstenone funk). It covers easily so no worry. HEC–the punkass designer–would never let on what was actually in it, but claims 7 pheromones, 21mg in .5 oz of carrier (15ml). That’s a dense mix! He swore up and down it contains no androstenone but hinted at androstAnone. Anywho, it is a solid work product with strong social enhancement and mild sexual undertones. It hornies up well with a few dabs of NPA/The Edge. I work with lots of women from coeds to middle age and Aquagen seems to engender a light mood and lots of talking. In other words, women laugh, yap and reveal personal details way more than usual. I thought it had sorta a jolly truth serum effect. It didn’t notice any male reactions, but I don’t pay close attention to men. It’s pretty oily so you’d only want to apply to skin–a major drawback if you prefer clothing apps (I do). ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/23 "2007-07-19T03:46:26Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I was a tester for unscented Aquagen. It has an obvious pheromone smell, and strongly reminds me of the smell of A-1 and androstAnone. (sorta a mellow androstenone funk). It covers easily so no worry. HEC–the punkass designer–would never let on what was actually in it, but claims 7 pheromones, 21mg in .5 oz of carrier (15ml). That’s a dense mix! He swore up and down it contains no androstenone but hinted at androstAnone. > > Anywho, it is a solid work product with strong social enhancement and mild sexual undertones. It hornies up well with a few dabs of NPA/The Edge. I work with lots of women from coeds to middle age and Aquagen seems to engender a light mood and lots of talking. In other words, women laugh, yap and reveal personal details way more than usual. I thought it had sorta a jolly truth serum effect. > > It didn’t notice any male reactions, but I don’t pay close attention to men. > > It’s pretty oily so you’d only want to apply to skin–a major drawback if you prefer clothing apps (I do). So its a Instant honesty on Steroids? 😕 I read you used androst-A-none products before whats your findings when used with A314? Man I wish PheroProof was still here. I seems it and Aquagen maybe a great combo for the ladies. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/24 "2007-07-19T04:53:10Z")
My brief tests of androstAnone with A314 gave me the impression they were not a complimentary combo. A314 gives off an authoritative fatherly vibe and androstAnone works against it, mellowing what little none it has. However, androstAnone works great as a buffer for heavy androstenone products like NPA and TE. That is, it mellows them without crippling the strong sexual undertone. Used solo it was subtle but seemed to help relax women–similar to A-1–but with more of a sensual undertone. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/25 "2007-07-19T08:09:42Z")
> [@jojobiz](#): > > perception didn’t do anything for me either. u might wanna give Aquagen a try instead. Let me know what you find with Aquagen. I saw some weird reactions at first but nothing more. Probably it needs to be combined with some -none.. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 10:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/26 "2007-07-19T10:06:53Z")
Aquagen solo is a good going to work mix but ain’t the deal for happy hour or most dates. It dresses up well for bars and parties with a zap or two of TE or NPA. ---
**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/27 "2007-07-19T13:42:36Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > Let me know what you find with Aquagen. I saw some weird reactions at first but nothing more. Probably it needs to be combined with some -none.. gegogi is da man to ask about aquagen. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/28 "2007-07-19T13:44:26Z")
> [@jojobiz](#): > > gegogi is da man to ask about aquagen. 😃 sure.. love to hear anything interesting about it.. it’s very leaky, that’s what I know. ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 2:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/29 "2007-07-19T14:13:29Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I was a tester for unscented Aquagen. It has an obvious pheromone smell, and strongly reminds me of the smell of A-1 and androstAnone. (sorta a mellow androstenone funk). It covers easily so no worry. HEC–the punkass designer–would never let on what was actually in it, but claims 7 pheromones, 21mg in .5 oz of carrier (15ml). That’s a dense mix! He swore up and down it contains no androstenone but hinted at androstAnone. Ok you tested unscented version sweet 😃 . But on the LS site it says unscented is like a final version of the scented version since the scented version is a beta-test. The funny thing is both are marked as 23mg in a 14ml bottle. But the scented version is only stated to have 7 pheros. This is a bit confusing. I wonder if they are the same thing. Or just different ratios of the seven pheros in 23mg. Gegogi if you can help me out understanding this. Thanks in advance bro. 😉 . ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/30 "2007-07-19T14:28:05Z")
> [@Matrixzer0](#): > > Ok you tested unscented version sweet 😃 . But on the LS site it says unscented is like a final version of the scented version since the scented version is a beta-test. The funny thing is both are marked as 23mg in a 14ml bottle. But the scented version is only stated to have 7 pheros. > > This is a bit confusing. I wonder if they are the same thing. Or just different ratios of the seven pheros in 23mg. Gegogi if you can help me out understanding this. Thanks in advance bro. 😉 . Unless I’m mistaken it’s the same as regards pheros.. Only the one I have is the scented beta test version, and it’s very leaky.. ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/31 "2007-07-19T15:27:52Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > Unless I’m mistaken it’s the same as regards pheros.. > Only the one I have is the scented beta test version, and it’s very leaky.. Leaky,… what you mean by leaky exactly? 😕 BTW its in a sprayable bottle right? ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/32 "2007-07-19T18:18:21Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > Unless I’m mistaken it’s the same as regards pheros.. > Only the one I have is the scented beta test version, and it’s very leaky.. By leaky what do you mean exactly? 😕 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/33 "2007-07-19T18:30:40Z")
The bottle is marked 21mg in 1/2 fl oz. I did the math and rounded it to 15ml. Stupid to mark contents in two different systems! Now that I think of it, HEC increased the amount of mones to 23mg in the final test batch. However the label wasn’t changed. My bottle of Aquagen didn’t leak during shipment or sitting on the countertop. I don’t carry it around in my pocket as it’s glass. It wouldn’t surprise me if it leaked if inverted for a long time in a pocket or suitcase. One of my togo bottles leaked all over me. In fact, most original product bottles seem to be less than leak proof. My Sephora atomizer seems almost bulletproof and has never leaked in pocket or suitcase. ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/34 "2007-07-19T18:38:47Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Aquagen solo is a good going to work mix but ain’t the deal for happy hour or most dates. It dresses up well for bars and parties with a zap or two of The Edge or NPA. And guys anyone tried …looks at Gegogi…using Aquagen with IS or Ammo 1.0. Aquagen plus 2 sprays of Ammo 1.0 (2x) maybe fun. 😃 Btw anyone knows how AndrosteRone and androst-A-none will react to each other? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/35 "2007-07-19T19:43:16Z")
I’ve tried most of a 30ml bottle of IS solo and with nearly every product I own, and results are too subtle to say anything. In my experience, Aquagen and Ammo foster rather similar reactions and probably wouldn’t make a good pairing. Kinda like wearing 2 similar shirts. However Aquagen works great with NPA and TE, so I imagine any other androstenone product like Primal, TUTH or chemset androstenone would be great. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/36 "2007-07-19T20:30:01Z")
> [@Matrixzer0](#): > > By leaky what do you mean exactly? 😕 😉 It isn’t a spray. You have to get drops out, but you can’t calculate a drop as more than one runs out… it’s a runny liquid. Not very practical. Perhaps I should mix it with something else in some other container (eg empty androtics bottle) one day.. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/37 "2007-07-19T20:35:24Z")
Actually I found the Aquagen dropper precise and easy to apply. A314 is the most difficult product I’ve ever owned just to get it outta the bottle! A dropper or stick would be easier. Nevertheless, you can always transfer Aquagen to an atomizer or roller bottle if droppers aren’t you cup 'o tea. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/38 "2007-07-19T20:44:59Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Actually I found the Aquagen dropper precise and easy to apply. A314 is the most difficult product I’ve ever owned just to get it outta the bottle! A dropper or stick would be easier. Nevertheless, you can always transfer Aquagen to an atomizer or roller bottle if droppers aren’t you cup 'o tea. Mine are the opposite.. Aquagen spills out too much, while A314’s drops come out slowly and easily. A314 is perfect to get it out, unlike Aquagen. I’m talking of the beta aquagen and mutant a314 of course… ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/39 "2007-07-19T22:46:47Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Actually I found the Aquagen dropper precise and easy to apply. A314 is the most difficult product I’ve ever owned just to get it outta the bottle! A dropper or stick would be easier. Nevertheless, you can always transfer Aquagen to an atomizer or roller bottle if droppers aren’t you cup 'o tea. Where can I get a atomizier? Or would a normal empty perfume bottle do (I have some small ones I can open)? ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652/40 "2007-07-19T23:55:29Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I’ve tried most of a 30ml bottle of IS solo and with nearly every product I own, and results are too subtle to say anything. > > In my experience, Aquagen and Ammo foster rather similar reactions and probably wouldn’t make a good pairing. Kinda like wearing 2 similar shirts. However Aquagen works great with NPA and The Edge, so I imagine any other androstenone product like Primal, Turn Up The Heat or chemset androstenone would be great. Gegogi one more piece of the puzzle. 1.If you are adding NPA or The Edge to Aquagen for a mix. In such a mix how much sprays do you use for NPA and how much for The edge? 1. And how many drops/sprays (not sure if its in spray or drop form bottle) of Aquagen you use as well. I mean the optimal average used for great and consistent results. BTW have you tried Aquagen with [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)? By your experience how much aquagen drops/sprays would you use with TUTH sprays. I mean in an usage ratio. 😉 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-anyone-combined-androticsdirect-pheros-with-love-scent-pheros-with-good-results/4652.md?page=3)