# have results changed for users re: efficacy of products after several years of use

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**Created:** [July 27, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-results-changed-for-users-re-efficacy-of-products-after-several-years-of-use/31041 "2009-07-27T17:30:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-results-changed-for-users-re-efficacy-of-products-after-several-years-of-use/31041/1 "2009-07-27T17:30:23Z")

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So i am a bit perplexed why Ammo etc. used to give me such blatant “in your face” results for the first 1.5 years of use. Going into my third year now of pheromone use and i am just not seeing the same quality of results i did in year one.

Possible theories:

1. One theory could be that your bodies own natural pheromone supplies r thus replenished and at optimum…just like health food supplements r useful when your body really needs it, and then as the supply is replenished in your body, u notice the benefits less and less?

2. I have thus optimised my natural levels of Androstenone, perhaps bringing it back to levels of teenage years, thus am finding it very easy to OD on even though im in my early 30’s? Say ya know like middle-age people get HGH shots to replenish there natural HGH levels back to when they were younger?

3. The base pheromone of mixes needs to be cycled. So now i am still actually getting good results from AndrosteRone bases like a314 or mx103, whereas in the early days i was getting better results with AndrosteNone based mixes…

4. Your body chemistry adjusts to the [synthetic pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) making it less effective over time thus kicking in a desentisation mechanism?

5. After a few years of synthetic pheromone useage our your naturallevels at ther optimum, thus your natural output becomes sufficient to noticing results? I believe Thomas Lavoie has a few posts regarding this theory.

Have any other long-term users had problems getting results for an extended period of time? i had so many “wow” moments for a long long time but its becoming rarer these days. Anyways guys, just theories and maybe i need to use the “cycle” or “stack” body-building style approach now that i am “plateuing”,…😕

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/have-results-changed-for-users-re-efficacy-of-products-after-several-years-of-use/31041/2 "2009-07-28T18:37:58Z")

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> [@mahalo\_silver](#):
>
> So i am a bit perplexed why Ammo etc. used to give me such blatant “in your face” results for the first 1.5 years of use. Going into my third year now of pheromone use and i am just not seeing the same quality of results i did in year one.
> 
> Possible theories:
> 
> 1. One theory could be that your bodies own natural pheromone supplies r thus replenished and at optimum…just like health food supplements r useful when your body really needs it, and then as the supply is replenished in your body, u notice the benefits less and less?
> 
> 2. I have thus optimised my natural levels of Androstenone, perhaps bringing it back to levels of teenage years, thus am finding it very easy to OD on even though im in my early 30’s? Say ya know like middle-age people get HGH shots to replenish there natural HGH levels back to when they were younger?
> 
> 3. The base pheromone of mixes needs to be cycled. So now i am still actually getting good results from AndrosteRone bases like a314 or mx103, whereas in the early days i was getting better results with AndrosteNone based mixes…
> 
> 4. Your body chemistry adjusts to the synthetic pheromones making it less effective over time thus kicking in a desentisation mechanism?
> 
> 5. After a few years of synthetic pheromone useage our your naturallevels at ther optimum, thus your natural output becomes sufficient to noticing results? I believe Thomas Lavoie has a few posts regarding this theory.
> 
> Have any other long-term users had problems getting results for an extended period of time? i had so many “wow” moments for a long long time but its becoming rarer these days. Anyways guys, just theories and maybe i need to use the “cycle” or “stack” body-building style approach now that i am “plateuing”,…😕

I suppose my theory would involve the supplication of [synthetic pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) that change the output of our own natural pheromones. Although logically I think it is difficult to explain how our own bodies would notice the change with a synthetic would produce.

It’s rather difficult to hypothesize why results seem to be lesser after time.

Natural lack of pheromone production?  
Conditioning to the “new you”? (I.E. You begin to expect the results, thus notice them less.)
