Have you ever tried A314 + Ammo + P83?

Its a very common and particularly good combination. Social, sexy and of appreciable but not daunting status - good in a very wide range of situations. :slight_smile:

An excellent past thread here:

Going less on the A314 seems to get me the best results - maybe because there is already rone in Ammo and the A314 provides enough steering. Whilst the P83 does what it does very well - Helps you get close, 30/40mcg. :slight_smile: