# Having issues.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 3, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454 "2008-06-03T18:24:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Acer-Ro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Acer-Ro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Acer-Ro)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454/1 "2008-06-03T18:24:46Z")

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I wasn’t too sure where to post this but I figured this forum would work.

So I got my order yesterday. Two togo bottles of Ammo and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), with a free togo bottle of Instant Shine.

(I don’t know who to thank for the free bottle. I would however like to do something in return for the bottle.)

Anyhow, I tried it out and I did notice I was getting eye contact by more people. (Like just a tad more than the norm.) But for the most part people would look me in the eyes, then turn away like … I dunno they didn’t care would be the best way to put it. Normally I get that little half ass smirk smile with complementary roll of the eyes your a douche bag look.

I used two sprays of each, Ammo on the front of my neck Instant Openness on the back, and Instant Shine on the back of neck.

I don’t know if the stuff spoiled, or what but it had NO EFFECT on anyone that I could see. Sooo, can you help me out here guys?

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454/2 "2008-06-03T21:55:01Z")

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> [@Acer-Ro](#):
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> I wasn’t too sure where to post this but I figured this forum would work.
> 
> So I got my order yesterday. Two togo bottles of Ammo and Instant Openness, with a free togo bottle of Instant Shine.
> 
> (I don’t know who to thank for the free bottle. I would however like to do something in return for the bottle.)
> 
> Anyhow, I tried it out and **I did notice I was getting eye contact by more people.** (Like just a tad more than the norm.) But for the most part **people would look me in the eyes, then turn away like** … I dunno they didn’t care would be the best way to put it. Normally I get that little half ass smirk smile with complementary roll of the eyes your a douche bag look.
> 
> I used two sprays of each, Ammo on the front of my neck Instant Openness on the back, and Instant Shine on the back of neck.
> 
> I don’t know if the stuff spoiled, or what but it had NO EFFECT on anyone that I could see. Sooo, can you help me out here guys?

They were sizing you up. “Hmmm, what’s different here?” I’m not sure what effect you were expecting but you got hits. It’s best to try the products one at a time, start with one spray, then two then three, then back to one for about a week. then don’t use any for a couple of days and see the difference.

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**Author:** ![Acer-Ro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Acer-Ro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Acer-Ro)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454/3 "2008-06-04T01:28:50Z")

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So I am getting hits, I just didn’t know what was going on then?

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454/4 "2008-06-04T02:51:39Z")

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After the Effect Ammo and Turn Up The Heat gave me tonight, I would say try a couple of spritzes on your wrists, rub them together, then rub them behind your ears, before they dry. (pulse points where [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are most often secreted)  
Then maybe one on spray your chest.  
start with one squirt, but if your target audience are smokers or older than 40 try more.

Make eye contact and smile often. Be open and available but not overly eager.

You would be amazed at what simulated attraction does with Pheromones, make eye contact with her, (her eyes, not her boobs) first hold the glance for several seconds, long enough she knows it is her you are looking at not staring at, smile a bit bigger and drop your glance. not a Joker smile, a simple grin will do, smiling a bit bigger and you “scan her body” adds to the effect. If you lock eyes and smiles, a couple of times, it is time to move in.  
Then start a conversation, say Hi, or ask for help (something simple or related to your surroundings).

Avoid crossing your arms, frowning, and being grumpy looking,  
try your best to be happy go lucky, if all else fails paste a happy face on and tell the world to piss off.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454/5 "2008-06-04T03:06:34Z")

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Remember two things - try one product by itself untill you get the feel for it. Start with one spray - if you do not see results go up to two sprays for a day or so.

Second - even when you are wearing this stuff no one is going to come up to you and suddenly take you home with them or be your best friend. They will notice you at a sub-conscious level at least if not consciously. But YOU will still have to use those great social skills you possess in order to get anywhere. But when you do use your social skills, these products will help you wim the day.

So yes - you were getting hits. People were noticing you. You just were not engaging them so they kept on going. Be frinedly, smile, talk to people, make jokes, make intelligent if not witty observations. The mones will grease the way for you to be Da Man.

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**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454/6 "2008-06-04T03:20:33Z")

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> [@](#):
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> (I don’t know who to thank for the free bottle. I would however like to do something in return for the bottle.)

Haha that’s cute, nahh there’s no need the girls that work there are friendly sometimes they throw in a nice little sample for you to try soo you get addicted to it and buy the big bottle a week later when the to-go runs out LOL 😛 J/K no they probably just want you to be happy 🙂

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454/7 "2008-06-04T03:55:24Z")

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> [@Jasx69](#):
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> Haha that’s cute, nahh there’s no need the girls that work there are friendly sometimes they throw in a nice little sample for you to try soo you get addicted to it and buy the big bottle a week later when the to-go runs out LOL 😛 J/K no they probably just want you to be happy 🙂

HAHAH, Picturing the “Girls” packing up male [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) orders, made me think of Lucy Ball packing candy…😃

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454/8 "2008-06-04T08:23:00Z")

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> [@Jasx69](#):
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> Haha that’s cute, nahh there’s no need the girls that work there are friendly sometimes they throw in a nice little sample for you to try soo you get addicted to it and buy the big bottle a week later when the to-go runs out LOL 😛 J/K no they probably just want you to be happy 🙂

Androtics has the best customer service ever! They’re pro-active. By sending to-gos as samples, and in my case recently, a very interesting book they’re putting out the message that they do care. Heck, on the rare instance that something happens with an order, I almost feel bad for reporting it, because I really do get the sense that they take every order and every shipment personally. Thankfully, it only happened once, and they “made it good” above and beyond the call of duty. That’s how you retain customers, right there.

I just wish I could see the looks on everyone’s face after I win the lottery and send in a $25,000 order. 😉

-D4

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**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454/9 "2008-06-04T11:33:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> HAHAH, Picturing the “Girls” packing up male pheromone orders, made me think of Lucy Ball packing candy…
> 
> `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/../images/smilies/biggrin.gif`

**I don’t remember that episode I do remember a pie assembly line where the pies kept coming out and they had to cream it 😛**

> [@](#):
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> I just wish I could see the looks on everyone’s face after I win the lottery and send in a $25,000 order.
> 
> `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/../images/smilies/wink.gif`

\*\*Woot arnt you lucky a book 🙂 Jassy sent me extra bubble wrap if that counts 😛, I cant read properly soo Jassy or Tish is going to have to read it to me to fully understand what’s it about 😛

“J”  
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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 2:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-issues/13454/10 "2008-06-04T14:01:57Z")

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> [@Acer-Ro](#):
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> So I am getting hits, I just didn’t know what was going on then?

Acer, hits aren’t really something that just happens…you have to make them happen. I know you read on here a lot of “I went out to the mall and this girl just came up and started talking to me”. Well, it’s kinda like the news, man goes swimming…no news. Gorilla goes surfing…news. The exceptional stuff gets written up and it looks like there are all these great hits happening.

Check the two threads in my signature and be sure to take to heart the quote I have there by eslite. Of course first read through the stickies if you haven’t already. And keep reading, posting and asking questions. The folks on this forum really are here to help others find their way.
