# Having trouble with some girl.What's the matter? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 1, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233 "2010-05-01T17:29:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TzarBHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@TzarBHD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TzarBHD)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/1 "2010-05-01T17:29:11Z")
There’s this girl i really like, she’s average looking, i’d give her a 7 atleast, but she’s a really good person and that’s what counts for me, i’ve known her for a month now, i used my combo, which seems to work but not enough. Ammo 2 shots to upperchest [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 2 shots to the chin Instant shine 2 shots to both sides of the neck Instant openness 1 shot to the hair. She always laughs at everything i say, gives lots of IOI’s when we eat together after church and fortunately i feel a strong connection between me and her.But at the same time i feel that she’s being really distant.Maybe because i know her father well, would that have something to do with her being distant?Or maybe it’s the fact that her friends are always being around her, it is really hard to be alone with her.She knows everybody at church, and i think that gives her a big confidence and use it against my approach. ---
**Author:** ![TzarBHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@TzarBHD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TzarBHD)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/2 "2010-05-01T17:32:38Z")
Oh btw, i own the following mones. Ammo, IS, IH, IO, IG, A314, IJ, [Molecule A](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/), Turn up the heat. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/3 "2010-05-01T17:43:21Z")
I’m not experienced enough to talk about the mones yet, but it looks like a good mix to me. I don’t understand what your your actual problem is with her. You say strong connection but then say shes distant too. Does not compute. Oh and why haven’t you asked her out alone? ---
**Author:** ![TzarBHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@TzarBHD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TzarBHD)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/4 "2010-05-01T17:51:00Z")
I mean there’s a strong connection when we are together, otherwise she’s in her own world, i never really asked her out, but i’ll make sure i’m alone with her first and trust me that is not easy, she’s always with somebody. ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/5 "2010-05-01T18:13:35Z")
if I may, try adding a spritz of IG, it’ll make her feel closer to you, and it really makes you alot “smoother” like Daniel creig, so next time your going to see her, add 1-2 sprays of ig and ask her out somewhere fun… and alone 🙂 if she declines then apparently you two weren’t as close as you thought, so what have you got ot lose ---
**Author:** ![TzarBHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@TzarBHD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TzarBHD)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/6 "2010-05-01T18:14:47Z")
A spray of IG on top of the 2 sprays of ammo?Or should i forget the ammo for next time? ---
**Author:** ![TzarBHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@TzarBHD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TzarBHD)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/7 "2010-05-01T18:16:37Z")
I remember a mix i did myself, that brought me a lot of attention from women, A314+IG, would it be dangerous to change signature so drastically? ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/8 "2010-05-01T18:17:23Z")
This isn’t war or brain surgery it’s a girl. Just a girl. Hmm, she’s with her friends and you see this as some kind of problem to asking her out? That right there is a red flag. You need to do some inner work with this. Are you ashamed for them to know you’re asking her out? Can’t you just pull her away for a moment to ask her? Seems to me you’re psyching yourself out, putting her up on a pedestal. She’s doesn’t deserve being on a pedestal. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/9 "2010-05-01T18:20:29Z")
Add some A314, Ammo, and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), then walk the walk of a strong alpha male and TAKE control of the situation. Politely excuse yourself from the rest of the onlookers and tagalongs, take her GENTLY by her arm to someplace private and have the damn conversation. She’s probably waiting for you to show that you’re man enough to do just that. ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/10 "2010-05-01T18:26:53Z")
hmm… I agree, I still think IG would be a better idea then Alpha 🙂 but do what you like, it really wont make much of a difference the point is it’s time to nut up broski, go and get your woman grab her by the hair and drag her back to your lair… metaphorically speaking of course ---
**Author:** ![TzarBHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@TzarBHD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TzarBHD)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/11 "2010-05-01T18:29:12Z")
Ok, i’ll do that tomorrow, hopefully, i’ll be back with good news.Thanks a lot for the advice guys. ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/12 "2010-05-01T18:32:57Z")
make sure you know what your gonna say and where you wanna take her and when, but be flexable =) good luck bro ---
**Author:** ![sweetsense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@sweetsense](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sweetsense)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/13 "2010-05-01T18:49:41Z")
If you go to the same church, she may be wooried about her rep with conserative members. I’d use IG and A314’ I married a woman I met in church ---
**Author:** ![TzarBHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@TzarBHD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TzarBHD)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/14 "2010-05-01T18:51:33Z")
You see that’s exactly what i was afraid of.And i think that’s what it is, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) was a really bad and stupid choice.I’ll go with IG and a314 ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/15 "2010-05-01T18:52:09Z")
hmm, interesting please do explain? and what would IG and alpha together do? seems kinda over kill to me, there close to the same product why wear them together ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/16 "2010-05-02T10:46:18Z")
My opinion is that your mix is fine. You could switch out Ammo for IG to evoke more feelings of safety trust and respectability if you feel she will respond better to that. You dont have nearly enough anone on to distance the girl with Ammo though. I dont feel your wearing to much of any one thing either which can sometimes make the neurotransmitters over stimulated and make people zone out. Her distancing may just be part of her personality and [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are not going to change that. I think you just need to make a move. Seems she is hooked just slowly start realing Tisha ---
**Author:** ![JR-H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@JR-H](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JR-H)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 12:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/17 "2010-05-02T12:44:13Z")
Yes, listen to Radman, he explained it very well. You have to take action, otherwise she’ll think you’re not up for it, or maybe lose interest in you. Or pehaps think you’re not interested. I don’t know her personality, so it’s hard to say. You will get nowhere until you take the LEAD… To hell with her friends, show you have balls and feel proud. Rest assured that all her friends will have respect for you, even though they may giggle or whatever… Good luck… > [@RADMAN513](#): > > Add some A314, Ammo, and Instant Shine, then walk the walk of a strong alpha male and TAKE control of the situation. Politely excuse yourself from the rest of the onlookers and tagalongs, take her GENTLY by her arm to someplace private and have the damn conversation. She’s probably waiting for you to show that you’re man enough to do just that. ---
**Author:** ![JAYCEE1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JAYCEE1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JAYCEE1)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/18 "2010-05-02T13:47:06Z")
Do you have her number? If not, do this: When you have her laughing at one of your jokes, get up like you are ready to leave. Then hit new contact on your cell and hand it to her. Tell her to put in her name and number. Then when she gives back the phone, send her a txt so she’ll know your number. Then say something funny and walk away. From there it should be a little easier for you. Jeff ---
**Author:** ![TzarBHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@TzarBHD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TzarBHD)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/19 "2010-05-02T21:20:12Z")
I did it, and i got her phone number in a really simple way here’s how it went… Right after the pastor finished talking, i went closer to her and started talking to her friends i finally did the final push, and started talking to her ending up like this, ‘‘i was wondering if you’d like to hang out sometime, you know i’m new to this church and I’m trying to make new friends here’’. then she hangs out her phone and waits for a second, waitin for me to ask her for her phone number.So i ask for it, but she’s in front of her friends and is hesitating and tell me ‘‘I don’t really answer my phone’’, and in fact she’s not lying i know because she has a prepaid phone and is ALWAYS texting, so i’ve no idea if that was an hesitation which i think it is, but i told her that i would text her instead, and then she gave it to me… So what do you think. ---
**Author:** ![TzarBHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@TzarBHD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TzarBHD)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233/20 "2010-05-02T21:26:31Z")
I need to know if that was a success or a fail, i feel embarassed that she said that. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/having-trouble-with-some-girl-whats-the-matter/38233.md?page=2)