# ‘Heavyweight’ effect for more personal power: P80 + A314 vs AndrostEnone + A314 **URL:** \ **Category:** A314 Insider's Club\ **Created:** [September 22, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heavyweight-effect-for-more-personal-power-p80-a314-vs-androstenone-a314/20051 "2008-09-22T10:50:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heavyweight-effect-for-more-personal-power-p80-a314-vs-androstenone-a314/20051/5 "2008-09-27T12:28:41Z")
> [@chicagokid1](#): > > Hey visionary I totally agree with catlords A314 and shot of turn up the heat. You really out male everyother guy. > My fav most easy mix i think ive tried so far.🙂 Yea it looks like an interesting effect. I bet it is very masculine indeed! **Below are more posts from Rbt and sigma on some old testing of Androsterone/AndrostEnone experimental test vials - note that the even ratio of Androsterone to AndrostEnone seemed to be preferred by both guys which is also what ‘Gone with the Wind’ preferred in the posts above…** [IS good for DMV?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-good-for-dmv/456/9) ([IS good for DMV?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-good-for-dmv/456/9)) Rbt (July 3, 2006): “…Oh gawd! I forgot I have those KZI vials too somewhere (somewhere…). gotta try them in combo with some Androtics stuff! **if I recall I had the best “feeling” with the KZI 3/3** …” [What pheromones do WAGG contain? - #8 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/8) ([What pheromones do WAGG contain? - #8 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/8)) sigma (May 15, 2007): “…Agreed I was expecting…am STILL expecting them to come out with something more exciting than Alpha 7. One thing I can say about KZI is the quality of the pheromones they use are top-notch. Even if WAGG wasn’t for me, I can certainly see the benefit it may have for others. Very consistent results. **I had great results with the none:Androsterone test packs they had us try back in the day. Simple, yet effective.** KZI and Lacroy are the two manufacturers that LS offers that I really like.” [It appears I've been banned from LS. - #260 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/260) ([It appears I've been banned from LS. - #260 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/260)) sigma (January 27, 2008): “…A7 is made by KZI…same folks who make WAGG **and the androstenone ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)):androsterone experimental packs back in the day** (which I’m betting A7 is based upon.)…” [It appears I've been banned from LS. - #262 by Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/262) ([It appears I've been banned from LS. - #262 by Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/262)) Rbt (January 27, 2008): “…sigma: I still have the 3 pack test kit from KZI. Didn’t use it as much as I had wanted to. Plus if I recall it only was a test of ratios between two pheromones. I’m guessing that A7 probably, like the old “C7” (Chikara) contains 7 main ingredients… and probably androstenone ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)) heavy…” [It appears I've been banned from LS. - #265 by Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/265) ([It appears I've been banned from LS. - #265 by Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/265)) Rbt (January 28, 2008): “…**Unfortunatley I preferred the lower androstenone ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)) sample.** Will have to dig em out and see what the ratios actually were…” [It appears I've been banned from LS. - #266 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/266) ([It appears I've been banned from LS. - #266 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/266)) sigma (January 29, 2008): “…1) .5mg/mL A-None & .1mg/mL A-Androsterone 2) .4mg/mL A-None & .2mg/mL A-Androsterone \*\*3) .3mg/mL A-None & .3mg/mL A-Androsterone \*\*\*\*I liked the 1:1 none:Androsterone ratio one too. I remember most people preferring that ratio…\*\*wonder why they opted for such an androstenone ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)) heavy product like A7. Easier to market maybe? I was a little disappointed that they didn’t release a commercial product more in line with those bottles.” [It appears I've been banned from LS. - #269 by Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/269) ([It appears I've been banned from LS. - #269 by Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/269)) Rbt (January 29, 2008): “I dug out my sample test kit and noticed the .4/.2 was the one I must have used the most as it was the lowest. I gave the .5/.1 a try today paired with some LPP Adam as cover (a couple of dabs of both). No one ran screaming, in either direction (either toward me or away from me). May have to play with them some more, and with the actual A7 product when it arrives. I love those cute little bottles.” [It appears I've been banned from LS. - #270 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/270) ([It appears I've been banned from LS. - #270 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/270)) sigma (January 30, 2008): “…**Androsterone has proven to be a very good buffer to androstenone ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/))…which is probably why those little bottles were so effective (despite their relatively simplicity)**…” --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heavyweight-effect-for-more-personal-power-p80-a314-vs-androstenone-a314/20051)._