# Hedione: what do you mix it with, or apply it alone layered with other mones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [September 2, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891 "2015-09-02T21:56:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/21 "2015-10-27T22:51:41Z")
I am going try 2 of the same mixes one with and one without Hedione. It may take a while but now I am interested in this. I wonder if this works with some molecules and not others or what. Well when I get to it I will the same mix with and with out Hedione and report back what I get. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/22 "2015-10-28T01:28:09Z")
> [@ScentHound](#): > > In the perfume industry Hedione is used for its diffusion-aiding qualities and after using my Hedione-enhanced products for several months I think it does exactly that.. I have noticed that applying Hedione or Jasmine towards the end of the active life of an application lifespan will boost it back-up a bit, so I reckon that is indeed its diffusion-aiding properties in action. However I also find it has properties all its own - and these are maybe best used alongside a more forward mix, either status or sexual. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/23 "2015-10-28T02:23:18Z")
Maybe there is a typo, Mobo, or missing words, but I fail to undertstand the sentence with the ‘endoif’ even after reading it a few times. May I kindly ask you to rephrase? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/24 "2015-10-28T02:41:05Z")
Duly edited - Getting dozy, half two in the morning here! ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/25 "2015-10-28T02:46:12Z")
Much better. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/26 "2015-10-28T04:43:53Z")
fecal smell = indole? ---
**Author:** ![ScentHound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scenthound/32/1840_2.png) [@ScentHound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScentHound)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 10:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/27 "2015-10-28T10:48:59Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > I have noticed that applying Hedione or Jasmine towards the end of the active life of an application lifespan will boost it back-up a bit, so I reckon that is indeed its diffusion-aiding properties in action. > > However I also find it has properties all its own - and these are maybe best used alongside a more forward mix, either status or sexual. Yes, I seem to get very good throw out of the products I have added Hedione to, lots of ‘across-the-room’-stares. This seems to indicate that people still tune in to me as the source of the signature, even from longer distances, kind of like with [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) which gets me crazy distance ‘stares’. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/28 "2015-10-28T17:17:01Z")
I was just making a mix into a 5ml bottle and I added the Hedione last. I wanted to mix Hedione with something different than TUTH. So this is what I got 2.5ml IS 2X 1ml P74 25 MCG 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) 1.5 ml Hedione I mixed this in a 5 ml Togo bottle and I added the Hedione last. When I did this I noticed the Hedione sank to the bottom of the bottle like a lead anchor. I will let this stuff set up a few days and shake a few times a day to let it mix. I am wondering if the molecule weight differences will play a role in how well He dione mixes in the same bottle as other molecules. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/29 "2015-10-28T18:10:45Z")
Last time I attempted to dilute hedione (altough it wasn’t in a mix with other mones), I used fractionated coconut oil instead of perfumer’s alcohol. This attenuates the density effect. It still is easily sprayable in an oil base. However, I prefer dabbing pure stuff nowadays. If you still see separation after adequate shaking and letting rest for a few days, you probably will have trouble having an even mix in the bottle. You might want to find the right amount of hedione to dab on your skin, then spray your mix over it, separately. Just an idea 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/30 "2015-10-28T19:12:02Z")
> [@Whitehall](#): > > fecal smell = indole? Yup! There is a small amount of Indole in natural Jasmine (and indeed most white flowers). So the purer, more concentrated forms of the natural product will inevitably concentrate this element too. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/31 "2015-10-28T19:49:41Z")
> [@](#): > > Last time I attempted to dilute hedione (altough it wasn’t in a mix with other mones ), I used fractionated coconut oil instead of perfurmer’s alcohol. This attenuates the density effect. It still is easily sprayable in an oil base. However, I prefer dabbing pure stuff nowadays. If you still see separation after adequate shaking and letting rest for a few days, you probably will have trouble having an even mix in the bottle. You might want to find the right amount of hedione to dab on your skin, then spray your mix over it, separately. Just an idea 🙂 Thanks for the input. I already mixed it and will try it out in a few days and see what I get. I will report back here on what I get. If this don’t go well I will try your method. So I have a 4 once bottle. It seems more of a liquid than an oil. So do you just put on your finger and than dab on your skin? I have always put this stuff in a spray bottle with some cologne. Depending on how this next test works out I may not me mixing any more in bottles and try your method. ---
**Author:** ![Smellymen2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Smellymen2002](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellymen2002)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/32 "2015-10-28T20:24:03Z")
> [@justintime469](#): > > Thanks for the input. I already mixed it and will try it out in a few days and see what I get. I will report back here on what I get. If this don’t go well I will try your method. > > So I have a 4 once bottle. It seems more of a liquid than an oil. > > So do you just put on your finger and than dab on your skin? I have always put this stuff in a spray bottle with some cologne. Depending on how this next test works out I may not me mixing any more in bottles and try your method. In my personal opinion I dab. I will put one product on my hands and the other on my neck. This does one main thing maximizes the diffusion of each product you would be wearing. I used to layer my products over the same spot, I didn’t have good results. When I separated them the results became more noticeable. I also feel that if you use too much scent it can easily do the opposite effect and drive girls away. They have a much better and more sensitive smeller than us guys do. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/33 "2015-10-28T20:40:29Z")
Just: yes it looks like an ordinary liquid as its viscosity is somewhat low, but it is really an oil. You’ll notice that the spot of application takes a while to dry out and/or be absorbed by the skin. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/34 "2015-10-28T20:41:55Z")
Both hedione threads should be merged together in the other one, which is older. This is getting confusing 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/35 "2015-10-28T20:43:53Z")
OK this makes perfect sense now. I did notice it is thicker than the others and now I see why it would be heavier and how diffusion can really be messed up. I will still try the mix I made but Think between Conjurator and Smellymen responses I think I have a good idea now. Thank you guys. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/36 "2015-10-28T20:55:28Z")
For reference Just, to get a dab, put a finger over the bottle opening so as to cover it liquidtight, turn the bottle down 180 degres, turn it back up, remove your finger. What’s on your finger is a dab, you smear the content wherever you’d like. I find it dries out faster that way instead of mere tapping. That’s not rocket science, but what’s important is to do it always the same way to get a constant reference of dosage. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/37 "2015-10-29T09:42:21Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Yup! There is a small amount of Indole in natural Jasmine (and indeed most white flowers). > > So the purer, more concentrated forms of the natural product will inevitably concentrate this element too. I’ve read that indole has its own aphrodisiacal properties, in trace amounts for most people. Why that would be so in evolutionary theory is perhaps related to meat consumption. But that’s a SWAG on my part. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/38 "2015-10-29T16:17:47Z")
I used to dab by putting it on my wrists then rubbing into my neck.. That way I don’t waste any washing it off my hands. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/39 "2015-10-29T16:35:52Z")
Nice alternative Jdub. I’ll keep that one in mind. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891/40 "2015-10-29T16:52:07Z")
> [@](#): > > For reference Just, to get a dab, put a finger over the bottle opening so as to cover it liquidtight, turn the bottle down 180 degres, turn it back up, remove your finger. What’s on your finger is a dab, you smear the content wherever you’d like. I find it dries out faster that way instead of mere tapping. That’s not rocket science, but what’s important is to do it always the same way to get a constant reference of dosage. > [@](#): > > I used to dab by putting it on my wrists then rubbing into my neck.. That way I don’t waste any washing it off my hands. You guys are the best thank you for all the help. I will try the dab method and see what I get. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-what-do-you-mix-it-with-or-apply-it-alone-layered-with-other-mones/64891.md?page=3)