# hello! 27/m from Holland - Pheromones for making love?

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**Created:** [November 15, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-27-m-from-holland-pheromones-for-making-love/63239 "2014-11-15T15:18:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-27-m-from-holland-pheromones-for-making-love/63239/1 "2014-11-15T15:18:02Z")

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Hello there,

I am a 27 year old guy from Holland (also known as the netherlands). Got here when looking for a good source of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). I have a very nice girlfriend, and although we are over 7 years together, it is always a bit of a gamble when she is actually in the mood or when she just wants a hug from me… Most of the time its more hugging than actually being in the mood.

I tried blindtesting some parfumes with pheromones from a well-known vendor of lingerie but actually she did not like the smell too much. She was more into sleeping on the couch than sleeping with me when I sprayed it a bit. Wasn’t really the effect I actually hoped for.

Still, I am still looking at something that will makes her mind go wild more often. I know she loves good smelling boys, but I haven’t seen too much effect on her with normal fragrances. She likes it, but in some way she loves her phone more.

Still wondering what the best would be. I love teasing her, and she knows it pretty well when I want something from her which usually results in the wrong ending. So, I am looking mostly for something that will make her cling more often to me instead of the other way around (me clinging to her). I do know her nose is not that great (she has a problem with her nose, she cannot smell odors really well), so even when I have something on me its hard for her to smell it when she is not standing next to me. What would you guys/girls actually recommend for me to try out?

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-27-m-from-holland-pheromones-for-making-love/63239/2 "2014-11-15T17:12:12Z")

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I’d suggest maybe trying AMMO regular and [Blue Summer](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/blue-summer/) TOGO. I’d try both if you can, to maximize the fixed shipping costs.

The ability to smell -enone is distinct from the pheromone effects. Two different anatomy areas process the smell and effect. The products are mild but have enough -enone for punch. The cologne is attractive but covers the -enone. TUTH does not have much cover. If she is actually sensitive to -enone the TUTH will put her off, if she can smell urine.

Generally central Europeans have the -enone genetic preference. I don’t know if it increases with latitude. Blonde hair does due to decreasing sunlight. The fine hair allows more sun to reach skin / more D Vitamin. Anyway I don’t think -enone will be a huge issue Unless she is non-European.

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**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-27-m-from-holland-pheromones-for-making-love/63239/3 "2014-11-15T17:33:58Z")

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Hmm, never heard that it could be that tricky to get the perfect mix actually. She can smell strong odors, no problem.

I am dutch, she is turkish (northern turk). Based on your suggestions, it sounds like AMMO is the way to go. Thanks for your suggestions 🙂

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-27-m-from-holland-pheromones-for-making-love/63239/4 "2014-11-15T17:57:00Z")

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> [@mrseeker](#):
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> Hmm, never heard that it could be that tricky to get the perfect mix actually. She can smell strong odors, no problem.
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> I am dutch, she is turkish (northern turk). Based on your suggestions, it sounds like AMMO is the way to go. Thanks for your suggestions 🙂

Interesting. Yes, good idea. I don’t have any real data on Turks. There is just a chance they have different -enone detection. So most likely use a good cologne cover for -enone. TUTH is only neroli and doesn’t cover well. I have seen one or two dark-skinned women super smellers of TUTH who react poorly.

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**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-27-m-from-holland-pheromones-for-making-love/63239/5 "2014-11-17T16:13:06Z")

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How old is your girlfriend if I may ask?

If you purely need a bedroom product I’d go with TUTH. The signal it sends is unmistakable. If you’re not getting any action with this on, there are probably other underlying issues in your relationship that need to be worked out first.

For making your gf see you in a new light again, I would go with something more intense than Ammo. Especially if she’s around your age, A314 + TUTH is a very solid status/sexual combo that always delivers. Buying a to-go of A314/b would be the economical option before investing in the oil.

Optionally add a to-go of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) if you’re having trouble communicating about certain issues.

PS: I’m Dutch as well 😉

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**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-27-m-from-holland-pheromones-for-making-love/63239/6 "2014-11-17T17:35:51Z")

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> [@Himeros](#):
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> How old is your girlfriend if I may ask?

Bit younger than me, couple of months difference.

> [@Himeros](#):
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> If you purely need a bedroom product I’d go with TUTH. The signal it sends is unmistakable. If you’re not getting any action with this on, there are probably other underlying issues in your relationship that need to be worked out first.

Yep, that I know. I consider pheromones an “assistive tool”, but not a miracle for the bedroom. We have an agreement that we both have to enjoy the bedroom fun, but my libido is a bit too high compared to hers. It does not mean I am not getting anything, on the contrary, but sometimes it feels more like winning the Durex lottery than a casual weekly dose of fun. She loves me, that I am quite sure about. The problem lies for me more in the sexual attraction, in awakening her “primal instincts” as I would call it. I consider it already a win if she tends to come to me because she feels a bit cold even though the heating is on…

> [@Himeros](#):
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> For making your gf see you in a new light again, I would go with something more intense than Ammo. Especially if she’s around your age, A314 + TUTH is a very solid status/sexual combo that always delivers. Buying a to-go of A314/b would be the economical option before investing in the oil.

A314 is something I have considered too. However, with all the names and secrecy around it, its a bit hard to know what the effects will be. What makes A314 better than TUTH and AMMO? Whats the difference between those 3 actually?

> [@Himeros](#):
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> Optionally add a to-go of Instant Honesty if you’re having trouble communicating about certain issues.

That is something I don’t have any problems with. Although its hard for her to explain certain things, I never experienced too much trouble in that field. I have a really open relationship with my girlfriend, and she knows more about me than I know about her.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-27-m-from-holland-pheromones-for-making-love/63239/7 "2014-11-17T21:57:27Z")

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-27-m-from-holland-pheromones-for-making-love/63239/8 "2014-11-26T16:16:33Z")

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Its going to be a rant of pure love & joy, but never EVER in my life have I been SOO attracted to woman. My girlfriend is currently in Turkey, so I have not had the chance to fully see how she reacts & likes my new parfume, but I can already say for sure that I wished I knew this site existed while I was still a student…

Some of the (more obvious) hits I received in the short period of time I am using it (note, without the spray I would obviously never even gotten this far):

- 2 sprays of TUTH (just for giggles) and then going to the store pretty late because I had to get some wine for dinner. Girl behind the counter was very polite, couldn’t resist twitching her hair and did make no attempt to hurry whatsoever. Don’t know if she liked me or was actually seducing me. Have to go back tonight, will see if she is around.
- 2 sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), sitting inside on a bench on a saturday shopping spree. Didn’t had to wait 5 minutes before 2 fine looking ladies come sitting next to me, and instead of leaving a couple of minutes later doing their job handing out tea bags, they start discussing for over 20 minutes about various random things, even went as far as asking me not to tell their boss about it. Nobody wanted to leave, even the woman behind me with a guy. After I left, everything went back to business as usual. The amount of giggles was so high, I had to pinch myself if I was not dreaming.
- Same day, went to the Douglas (parfume store). Had to get a gift for my mother. Assistant was really helpful, didn’t had to do anything, she took care of it, like I am a high valued customer. Girl behind the counter started to make mistakes, don’t know if she was new, confused or otherwise into such a state where her mind was messed up with other things. Apparently I had to go to the packing department instead. Couple of old woman there, were happy they had something to do but other than that no obvious changes.
- A134, 1-2 sprays: I feel like I am more important than I originally thought. People have to tell me to “shut up”, because I begin to get a bit annoying. I sometimes do feel that I have to wear something better, especially when I get up. For me this was a real confidence booster, and the smell is better than I thought. For work situations, perfect!

Still thinking if I should make a log, it depends a bit since I don’t have too much experience with the hits.
