# Hello, A newbie with a lot of questions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 21, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-a-newbie-with-a-lot-of-questions/25153 "2009-01-21T03:31:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![amadina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@amadina](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/amadina)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-a-newbie-with-a-lot-of-questions/25153/1 "2009-01-21T03:31:26Z")
Hi there. Let me just start by saying this whole forum is EXCELLENT. Extremelly informative and I can see users here are very helpful. Anyway, I’ve spent the last few hours prawling through all these threads trying to get a general notion of all the chemicals and their functions. Trying to get an idea of what products to purchase and which to avoid etc. etc. I was googling for pheromones reviews but could only find sites that pointed towards products like Pherlure or Nexus which clearly sounded like a (especially how there are about 30 websites dedicated solely to the purpose of advertising Pherlure), until I found this forum. So my first question is, why do you think all those other products don’t work? Don’t they claim to have the same base pheromones? Any products besides SmartMones’ you’d recommend? Now, I know it’s a bold request and I’m probably out of line here (and I apologize for that) but the reason I’m asking this is because I’d like to test this against the other best products in the market. Due to feedback, SmartMones seems to be the likely winner so no harm could come from it, right? Anyways, I’ll obvious be a loyal costumer of SmartMones if it really works just because of the great work u’ve done here. So onwards to more personal dilemas… I’m 18 yo, relatively tall, athletic and (being as unbiased as I can) quite attractive (in 100 random guys I’d definately figure amongst the top10 if not top5). I’m a University student and even if I only consider myself to have above average intellect I can con people pretty well into thinking I’m some kind of brilliant mind.😛 The reason I’m telling you this is not because I’m a show-off or trying to boast. The reason I’m telling you this is because I’ve never even dated or kissed a girl and I have no fucking clue why. It isn’t because I’m socially awkward. I’m honestly a really nice guy and almost everybody seems to enjoy my company. I tend to make friends with ease and I’m quite popular with other guys, I’d say I’m somewhat of a natural leader, but no girls will be interested even in the most innocent friendship. I tend to get plenty of eye contact and girls checking me out from afar but when they get close is as if I’m invisible. It’s weird. Which leads me to another question. Is it possible that my body doesn’t produce one of these pheromones in the right amounts (or even not at all)? Of course, I’m extremely insecure around women and always have been so that may as well be the cause (yet again, they don’t even seem to appreciate my friendship, even lower value women with whom I don’t get nervous at all). I’m guessing [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), CTTM, Instant Shine, Instant Openess are the must buys for me. But exactly which ones would do me the most good/be more effective and in which ammounts? Also, I need help with with the more sensual pheromones really have no idea which one to go for. A few last questions: Would you recommend A314 or am I still too young? I’m quite interested in seeing what magic I could get from it since I’m already quite dominant. Why is Instant Gentlemen ranked so low in this poll when comparing with A314? Don’t they have similar uses? Any Experimones or putatives you could recommend me? You might find it odd for a newcomer to ask for experimental stuff but the thing is my bank account doesn’t allow me to buy from the internet so I’ll have to get my father’s card to buy it. :o Besides the embarrassment, getting him to waste 200-300 bucks (live in Europe) on Instant Jerks or Turn Up The Heat might prove harder than if its an A314, MX132 Methoxyestratetraeno or Androstadienone (these were just random, no idea what they are) for my ‘chemistry course’ if you get what I mean. 😃 So, if you could show me what weird-named-bottles I need instead of the standard all-in-1s I’d really appreciate (that is, if it isn’t too expensive to buy each component singularly). Please try to adress my questions as best as you can, I tried to be the most honest and descritive I could. Anything that might look like boasting or arrogance is just my best interpretation of reality, please don’t take it wrongly. Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post with all its whine and poor english. Oh and feel free to ask anything if I wasn’t clear about anything. EDIT- One last thing, I’ve read copulins can have some effect on women but I couldn’t really ---
**Author:** ![ctboarder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@ctboarder](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ctboarder)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-a-newbie-with-a-lot-of-questions/25153/2 "2009-01-21T04:16:09Z")
Hey, Welcome to the forum. I’m pretty new myself so I can’t answer many of your questions, but I’ll do my best in the little time I have. I have tried other “off-brand” [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and I can honestly say they didn’t work. One for example was called Realm. I found it in a fragrance shop in my local mall. Having previously used legitimate products found on sites dedicated to pheromones I can definitely say the results were much different. Of course anyone can imagine there confidence is being boosted therefore it will be, but I assure you this wasn’t the case. The legitimate ones worked, and the others just flat didn’t. And just in case your doubting the truth behind Pheromones in general, I know for a fact they work. I have been with the same girls in the same situations with and without. With makes a huge difference, not always, but you will notice a difference. I just purchased A314 so I can let you know how that goes. I’ve never used a product for anything other than getting girls so I’m eager to see how it’ll work. Also, I compare to you pretty well so what works with me may work for you as well. I’m twenty now but saw good results back when I was eighteen. Although I can’t really say I’ve ever had any trouble with girls, I do tend to keep to myself and let them come to me. This is the reason I bought the A314. To boost confidence and possibly become a little more outgoing. Another friend of mine just bought Instant female magic, Instant shine, Instant openness, and Turn up the heat. I’m going to try them out and I’ll let you know what we both discover. We both are around your age and are in college so we should compare pretty well. Again, welcome to the forum and I know I didn’t answer much of what you asked but I’m new as well. I hope you’ll get some more answers from more experienced users soon. ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-a-newbie-with-a-lot-of-questions/25153/3 "2009-01-21T06:36:31Z")
Hello, wow that is a good intro. Now you say that you say that girls are not intersted when they get them close to you. What are your interactions when you talk to the girls? Are you pushy? Do you think that you are god like? not trying to come off bad to you, just trying to see what you are saying to the girls that makes them run away. But I think that Instant-F-Magic might help with them feeling good around you. Ammo will help with attraction even though you say that you are good looking, it might help to keep their interest in you. A314, I think [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) will work better for you from what I have read. I have not tried it so I can not say to much about it! Any question ask, we are a friendly bunch. ---
**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-a-newbie-with-a-lot-of-questions/25153/4 "2009-01-21T06:51:22Z")
Hey there, I’ll do what I can to give you my 2 cents. > [@amadina](#): > > Any products besides SmartMones’ you’d recommend? Now, I know it’s a bold request and I’m probably out of line here (and I apologize for that) but the reason I’m asking this is because I’d like to test this against the other best products in the market. Due to feedback, SmartMones seems to be the likely winner so no harm could come from it, right? Anyways, I’ll obvious be a loyal costumer of SmartMones if it really works just because of the great work u’ve done here. I’ve only tried the phero’s here. It was enough of a result to keep me from straying so far. > [@amadina](#): > > The reason I’m telling you this is not because I’m a show-off or trying to boast. The reason I’m telling you this is because I’ve never even dated or kissed a girl and I have no fucking clue why. > > It isn’t because I’m socially awkward. I’m honestly a really nice guy and almost everybody seems to enjoy my company. I tend to make friends with ease and I’m quite popular with other guys, I’d say I’m somewhat of a natural leader, but no girls will be interested even in the most innocent friendship. > > I tend to get plenty of eye contact and girls checking me out from afar but when they get close is as if I’m invisible. It’s weird. Consider you haven’t quite mastered how to flirt with girls, and read their body language. I’m not saying you’re wrong and they’re ignoring you. But what if, just what if, you’re good looking enough to where it’s intimidating. Most girls I know shut down their flirty behavior until the guy gets them to relax. > [@amadina](#): > > Which leads me to another question. Is it possible that my body doesn’t produce one of these pheromones in the right amounts (or even not at all)? I doubt it, but what do I know? I’m no scientist or expert. 🙂 > [@amadina](#): > > Of course, I’m extremely insecure around women and always have been so that may as well be the cause (yet again, they don’t even seem to appreciate my friendship, even lower value women with whom I don’t get nervous at all). That could be the problem too. Women can smell fear, and it’s like there’s a big neon sign above the awkward guy’s head. > [@amadina](#): > > I’m guessing Instant Female Magic, CTTM, Instant Shine, Instant Openess are the must buys for me. But exactly which ones would do me the most good/be more effective and in which ammounts? > > Also, I need help with with the more sensual pheromones really have no idea which one to go for. If you look at my sig, you’ll see what I have. I’ve had good luck with combinations of IO, IH and TUTH. But, I’m not awkward around girls. I can, however, tell you that I felt the same as you going into my college studies. I really didn’t break out of the shell until my sophomore/junior years. The first year is difficult for a lot of people, including me. My suggestion is to study “the game” and girls in general. It’s what helped me get over my fear. Other members here can probably suggest to you some good reading on the matter. All the pheros in the world won’t fix what’s missing in you. Work on you first, man, and get your state of mind up a notch to where you’re not so concerned about what the girls are doing/thinking. As far as suggestions, I’d stay away from the experimentals until you have a handle on yourself and what the pheromones do. I don’t have much experience with your age group, so I’ll leave that to the other members. Ammo seems to be very popular, and I love IO for getting people giddy around me. > [@amadina](#): > > A few last questions: > > Would you recommend A314 or am I still too young? I’m quite interested in seeing what magic I could get from it since I’m already quite dominant. I would stick with the other Smartmones until you know how they work. I would also work on your feelings of awkwardness before trying to tackle A314. I’ve yet to receive any real peacocking or flirty hits when using the product, so I don’t think it’ll help you overcome your concerns with the ladies. > [@amadina](#): > > Why is Instant Gentlemen ranked so low in this poll when comparing with A314? Don’t they have similar uses? A314 is pretty powerful, but I’ve never used IG. But A314’s effects are much more subtle and long term. I would _think_ it’s not best for college lifestyles because of the number of changes you’ll undergo on a daily/weekly/semester/yearly basis. IMO, it’s hard for that product to establish itself with infrequent use/exposure. > [@amadina](#): > > Any Experimones or putatives you could recommend me? Honestly, I wouldn’t recommend those as the effects are mostly undetermined. I understand your problem, but how would you know if it was working if we don’t really know exactly what it does yet? Tisha or a staff member may have better advice here. > [@amadina](#): > > Please try to adress my questions as best as you can, I tried to be the most honest and descritive I could. Anything that might look like boasting or arrogance is just my best interpretation of reality, please don’t take it wrongly. > Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post with all its whine and poor english. No need to apologize, we’re here to and happy to help. Ask away and good luck. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 7:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-a-newbie-with-a-lot-of-questions/25153/5 "2009-01-21T07:07:31Z")
HI there, Welcome ot the forum. Is it not only [smartmones.com](http://smartmones.com) sells genuine pheromones. Ofcourse there are other sites too. I don’t know how you get the idea that only pheromones from [smartmones.com](http://smartmones.com) are working. I think you are lacking the edge to make girls attracted to you even though you are good at socializing. Ammo will give you this edge. It can make them attracted to you. A314 is a strong alpha pheromones. You need to go in line with the alpha vibe, the way you act, talk and so on. Otherwise people will confuse about the alpha vibe you are trying to project. IG may be better for young age like you. Have fun ---
**Author:** ![amadina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@amadina](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/amadina)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-a-newbie-with-a-lot-of-questions/25153/6 "2009-01-21T12:21:43Z")
Thank you for all the answers so far, you’ve been quite helpful. > [@](#): > > Consider you haven’t quite mastered how to flirt with girls, and read their body language. I’m not saying you’re wrong and they’re ignoring you. But what if, just what if, you’re good looking enough to where it’s intimidating. Most girls I know shut down their flirty behavior until the guy gets them to relax. Getting them to relax should be the key. But exactly how do I manage that? That’s why I’m so excited about some of these social pheros, even more than sexual ones. > [@](#): > > Now you say that you say that girls are not intersted when they get them close to you. What are your interactions when you talk to the girls? I just talk… may smile from time to time but usually sustain a serious, deep expression and try to sustain eye-to-eye contact (not in scary, awkward way though). > [@](#): > > Are you pushy? Not at all. Quite the contrary actually. > [@](#): > > Do you think that you are god like? Perhaps I may sound arrogant or egocentric sometimes but I always try to throw a little bit of modesty in whenever I can. In my defense, though, sometimes I find myself forced to talk about myself because they don’t anything to the conversation. > [@](#): > > Is it not only [smartmones.com](http://smartmones.com) sells genuine pheromones. Ofcourse there are other sites too. I don’t know how you get the idea that only pheromones from [smartmones.com](http://smartmones.com) are working. Oh I didn’t get that idea. Which is why I asked if you’d be so kind as to indicate other products that worked so that later on I could compare them with Androtic’s. One last thing, I seem to have no problems with older women. In fact, I get a lot of hits (clear, blatant, unmasked ones) from women in their late 20s or even over 30 which can almost get a little creepy sometimes. It’s just that I’m really not into more mature women (not that that a woman aged 27 is old, please don’t get me wrong, but I prefer them my age). So please bear in mind that the pheros I’m looking for are those that work best with younger women. For that reason I’m a bit afraid of using -none based products, whats your opinion on that? Also thanks for all your indications on the products, I’m taking notes. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 12:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-a-newbie-with-a-lot-of-questions/25153/7 "2009-01-21T12:42:30Z")
Hi amadina, welcome ( a little belatedly I know) You’ve had some good advice already and have obviously been doing your own research. There are other legitimate pheromone suppliers out there, the beauty of this forum is that we are virtually free to discuss them, good or bad, the only constraints being that there are sometimes legal reasons that Androtics quite rightly get twitchy about! Like wilks, I would caution you regarding A314, it is great but can present difficulties for someone of your age being able to carry the huge respect aura that it projects which tends to be very counterproductive. I would suggest that a better choice for you is [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), this will give the cool, laid back image (think James Bond) without the unapproachable element from A314. Smart man spotting that social pheromones are often better with the ladies than the sexual ones. Most sexual pheromones contain androstenone, you are already producing bucketloads of this. If you want the ladies to feel comfortable around you, my suggestion would be IFM with Instant Honesty, I use it with ammo (because I’m an old git) and it works, believe me 😉 Finally to counter your ‘insecurity around women’ Instant Shine will make you feel and appear ‘shiny’, have a browse around the PUA threads for some useful hints and techniques for attracting the girls. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-a-newbie-with-a-lot-of-questions/25153/8 "2009-01-22T20:32:34Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 My name is Tisha and I am hostess and mone adviser here on PT. Glad you found us. > [@](#): > > So my first question is, why do you think all those other products don’t work? Don’t they claim to have the same base pheromones? Who said they **all** didnt work, Pherlure is crap because what they list to be in there product dosnt exist and they are not forthcoming with there refund either. Not much results from there product. Nexxus isnt all that bad though. I have it never had a problem. Its not my favorite though. > [@](#): > > Any products besides SmartMones’ you’d recommend? Now, I know it’s a bold request and I’m probably out of line here (and I apologize for that) but the reason I’m asking this is because I’d like to test this against the other best products in the market. Due to feedback, SmartMones seems to be the likely winner so no harm could come from it, right? Anyways, I’ll obvious be a loyal costumer of SmartMones if it really works just because of the great work u’ve done here. Its ok we can talk about other products you just have to gogle to find them. Androtics smartmones is the leader in [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) technology though which is why we get our stuff here. I however couldnt be a expert in mones technology if I didnt have and test other products Lets see, some of my favorites… Scent of Eros is great love it. They have it in mens to Love scent has soom good products WAGG Primal NPA They are a trusted compnay naturalattraction sells good mens products and are a ethical company. Pherofragrence by aromascience is good another trustworthy ethical company > [@](#): > > Which leads me to another question. Is it possible that my body doesn’t produce one of these pheromones in the right amounts (or even not at all)? Yes its possible mone production can depend on many factors, Health Diet fitness race. > [@](#): > > I’m guessing Instant Female Magic, CTTM, Instant Shine, Instant Openess are the must buys for me. But exactly which ones would do me the most good/be more effective and in which ammounts? I would say Ishine which is magnetic and charismatic > [@](#): > > Also, I need help with with the more sensual pheromones really have no idea which one to go for AMMO would be the one to go for, It increases interest as well as attraction. > [@](#): > > Why is Instant Gentlemen ranked so low in this poll when comparing with A314? Don’t they have similar uses? A314 is more Alpha and powerful then IG, IG is masculine smooth dependable secure. As for the poll… you want the truth. Its the name. If the same formula was called “get me laid” it would sell out like hot cakes. > [@](#): > > Any Experimones or putatives you could recommend me? Despite the bank account I would say stick to the consumers for now. Mixing experimones and putatives is not easy the consumers are balanced and buffered well. > [@](#): > > One last thing, I’ve read copulins can have some effect on women but I couldn’t really Copulins are a womens mone I would wait till you have experience to use them. **Your GC went out** 😃 Tisha