# Hello all phero-lovers, -users, & even -abusers :)

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all-phero-lovers-users-even-abusers/9284>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [February 20, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all-phero-lovers-users-even-abusers/9284 "2008-02-20T06:58:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![ChaseEmALL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chaseemall/32/1430_2.png) [@ChaseEmALL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ChaseEmALL)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all-phero-lovers-users-even-abusers/9284/1 "2008-02-20T06:58:07Z")

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23yo male from AL. Some way some how I came across Pherlure, used it for about 3 months, got great feedback, but it wasn’t enough. So after some scouring the Internet, I came across this forum. After an hour or so of reading posts, feedback, and recommendations, I was sold on Androtics Direct products.

Via Jasmin’s sticky, I picked up A314, Turn Up The Heat, TAL, & P79. I’ve experimented the last couple of days with the entire mix with mixed feedback. I LOVE the A314, it completely delivers everything it says. I used it at work (with the other 3 as part of an experiment) and received RIDICULOUS (almost undue) respect. Not sure how the Turn Up The Heat, TAL, & P79 factored into the mix, but would be very interested to hear any suggestions on dosage and application points.

As for Monday night, I had a party to attend 🙄 . I ramped up with A314 at 4 drops (2 on neck, 2 on wrists), then Turn Up The Heat at 4 sprays (2 on chest, 2 on forearms), then TAL at 3 sprays (1 on chest, 2 on forearms), and lastly P79 at 3 sprays in the same fashion as the TAL. The second I come through the door the party begin to gravitate towards me. For reference this almost never happens as I tend to have a “gimme a beer and leave me the hell alone” attitude. Here comes the awkward point. In mid-conversation, the birthday boy’s wife drags me into the kitchen to drink with her. Keep in mind I have the utmost respect for my friend and his wife is a completely nonsexual entity to me because well best friend’s wife/girlfriend equals “ugh” to me. The awkward moment arose when she tried to pull me down on top of her in the kitchen floor. At the moment, all I could think was “wow, it works.” Needless to say I burst her bubble and told her to get her ass up and back in there with the rest of us. The rest is history, but I was confused as one girl completely shut me out and I have no idea why. We didn’t talk we barely made eye contact. It seemed as if she had a bad attitude towards me with undertones of “I hate you because you steal the attention from me” Any thoughts on her reactions or lack thereof?

P.S. - Hopefully every post I make will NOT end up like a 3rd Edition Encyclopedia Britannica. However, I do tend to be an awesome story teller with questionable in-depth detail, so let’s see how do I put this…um…deal with it.

P.P.S. - My first shipment consisted of A314, Turn Up The Heat, TAL, & P79, I am fully open to any recommendations for nearly any situation. In addition, I have purchased TO GO bottles of Instant Shine (Double Strength), [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Instant Openness (Double Strength), and Instant Honesty (Double Strength). Help would be greatly appreciated. If you need a scenario, my greatest quality and quantity of interactions occur at my place of work. I have no qualms whatsoever about what is appropriate because I am who I am and anyone may do as he/she pleases. I’m already the alpha male among co-workers, the resident source of laugh-with-not-at humor, and lastly a MILF Hunter/ intermediate PUA.

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**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all-phero-lovers-users-even-abusers/9284/2 "2008-02-20T07:58:41Z")

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Welcome to Pherotalk ChaseEmAll!

Great reporting and product choices. The mens stickies are very helpful to get you familiar with your purchases and how the other men are using them and in what amounts.

You may have been wearing too much androstenone Monday night, that is my impression of the woman who had an attitude toward you. I get irritated with too much myself. I guess that makes you a [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) abuser, no worries you’ll find your perfect amount. We all have been there with you over applying. 🙂

Your second purchase lists products that will help greatly in buffering any possible negative reactions to androstenone and are just plain fun to wear socially.

Enjoy!

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**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all-phero-lovers-users-even-abusers/9284/3 "2008-02-20T08:16:47Z")

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Hello there Chase. Worse things in life then chronically abusing synthetic human [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). He he. Long posts are great, but alot of people here have short attention spans and prefer cliff notes.

P79 is reported to act like an amplifier. I don’t know how exactly. I theorize it has to do with emotional response. It can make great situations even greater and shit situations more shittier. It’s all in context and not always desired, but with the dynamics of social human interaction you don’t always know what it will be.

That’s really the magic of it all.

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**Author:** ![ChaseEmALL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chaseemall/32/1430_2.png) [@ChaseEmALL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ChaseEmALL)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 8:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all-phero-lovers-users-even-abusers/9284/4 "2008-02-20T08:26:57Z")

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Thanks **inkling** , good call on the -none, I had no idea 🙂 (mental note: use buffer) I tend to have a handgrenade approach to things like this, go all out and let the chips fall where they may.

Thanks **Pheraoh** for the info on the P79. I had no idea, I just pulled the pin & tossed. I agree with the magic of it all. I enjoy both the good and the bad, that’s what makes it fun.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all-phero-lovers-users-even-abusers/9284/5 "2008-02-20T09:59:53Z")

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Welcome to the forum.Sounds like you are already well underway with your phero-adventures. Thanks for posting - if you feel funny using the story format Tisha has a bare bones “just the facts, mam” format you can follow.And you have one heck of a collection of toys to play with. Very impressive.Hard to say what happened. Could have been too much 'none as too why the one girl shut you out. It was probably the 'none, TAL and maybe the P79 combo that caused the reaction with your friend’s wife. Obviously she always had something for you. The effects of 'none you understand. Guys have reported that when they wear TAL some women feel empowered/emboldened to do what they would like to do but otherwise might not, and as stated P79 seems to be an “intensifier” of certain other pheromones. Add it all up and you were right: big trouble with your friend’s wife. You did the right thing. Kudos.Welcome again to the forum.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all-phero-lovers-users-even-abusers/9284/6 "2008-02-21T02:10:34Z")

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Hello Welcome to the forum 🙂

Look like you well on your way to getting to know all the products and how to use them. If you have any questions just ask. We look forward to your participation.

😃 **Your GC will be in your email box in the next 24 to 48 hours** 😃

Have fun

Tisha

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**Author:** ![ChaseEmALL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chaseemall/32/1430_2.png) [@ChaseEmALL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ChaseEmALL)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all-phero-lovers-users-even-abusers/9284/7 "2008-02-22T05:26:41Z")

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Thanks **bosshank** , I can’t wait to get the social pheros, call me crazy but I love the feeling I get with the -none, but I suppose it’d be better to use what works best with other people for a better all around experience.

Thanks **tisha** , your avatar makes me unable to read any other posts for long periods of time, SO distracting 🙄 , magically delicious

Update 2/21/08: 3 drops of A314 + 2 sprays of TUTH + 2 sprays of TAL + 2 sprays of P79 all at work = hot moms (I love MILFs) in vigorous flirtation that seems to grab all the other customers/associates attention…while they simultaneously try to show me pictures of their (gorgeous) daughters.

P.S. - Also got MASSIVE respect, apologies, “can I do that for you?”, “what do you need me to do?”, & it feels like I’ve got elevated T levels from the powerful feeling from the -none.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all-phero-lovers-users-even-abusers/9284/8 "2008-02-22T05:40:14Z")

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> [@ChaseEmALL](#):
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> Thanks **bosshank** , I can’t wait to get the social pheros, call me crazy but I love the feeling I get with the -none, but I suppose it’d be better to use what works best with other people for a better all around experience.

Nothing wrong with a little 'none. I use some in my daily mix from either the A314 and/or Ammo. 'None can provide a direct route to a couple destinations. But a lot of guys do overlook the benefits of products like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), IO and IH. I am going to play with a combination of IH and TAL added to my A314 and Ammo this weekend.

At the same time it is interesting to note that a lot of VERY advanced users are experimenting with moving away from 'none in some of their complex seduction mixes involving putatives and MXes.
