# Hello All

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [February 27, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551 "2009-02-27T17:27:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/1 "2009-02-27T17:27:10Z")

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Well, I shure would love that gift certificate so here goes.

I am 23 years old, a texan, i’m currently in my 3rd year at a 4 year university and have yet to make a serious connection with anyone.

As a guy, I have to kind of wonder if it is something with myself, or just a general location thing.

I started with the basics, I changed my eating habits, I am working out, I am slimming down and looking good. I also can be seen around the university riding my specialized mountian bike (love it to death).

So this is kind of where I am at, I have regular dart league, I go out and talk and socialize but it never really feels right. I hit the club meet new people, dance with randoms, and get the occasional new girl home. But I feel the casuals I meet are just that casual and they stay that way.

I need something that will give a bit of an edge, or in the least give me another 15 minutes of face time with some of these young ladies.

BTW, I also dj, dress either buisness casual when I am just relaxing at the bar, or clean cut with AE gear if I’m spinning or bar hopping.

Any suggestions?

-Gabriel

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**Author:** ![future777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/future777/32/2258_2.png) [@future777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/future777)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/2 "2009-02-27T17:31:33Z")

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Whoa nice bold! haha Welcome to the forum.

You say that you are stuck in that “friend” zone, so I would suggest Ammo. It is a great product that can be worn anywhere. It is an attractant that will send out that “I am interested” vibe.

As far as socials go, a great one is [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). It makes you stand out from the crowd, and people will really enjoy being around you. IO might help as it promotes talking. IH makes the conversation go deeper, and she will be more comfortable sharing with you.

For your first purchase though, I definitely suggest ammo and Instant Shine. They are great base type products that you can build on.

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/3 "2009-02-27T17:33:16Z")

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Hi Gabriel, and welcome!

If you would please share a bit more about your personality, as well more exactly what you wish to accomplish with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), we can much better guide you.

Feel free to ask anything you want, everyone is very friendly and real here.

Warm regards,  
Sillykitty

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/4 "2009-02-27T17:50:40Z")

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Well, I am usually defined by my friends as “very serious” for my age, a real hardass, but I am fun to be around, like “instant party”. I am told I am interesting and have broad hobbies and am talented playing guitar, dj-with real vinyl, and learning violin…

But it kinda ends there, friend zone in a way, the new girls hang around, but I seem like the great fun guy to be around, but it kinda fizzles.

Which is weird because I adopted the euro style double kiss hello, welcome and parting hugs way the hell back when. I alwayse seem like the “real nice guy” but it seems atleast to me, far and inbetween that I reel one in you know?

What am I looking for? Something to give me a better range to select from, snag some I may not have made advaces towards before or attract more new faces.

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/5 "2009-02-27T17:53:50Z")

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BTW, I am mulling over the instant shine and the ammo to-go as an order…

I wonder if I order in like the next hour if it can be next dayed to me for tomarrow???

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/6 "2009-02-27T17:56:16Z")

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Hi,

Welcome to the forum.

I suggest you try AMMO and IH.

AMMO is the attractant. Girls will be attracted to you. It has a mild sexual attraction too.

IH will make the girls closer to you. They will feel they knw you for long time. This will build relatonship.

Good luck

Cheers

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/7 "2009-02-27T18:05:31Z")

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> Which is weird because I adopted the euro style double kiss hello, welcome and parting hugs way the hell back when. I alwayse seem like the “real nice guy” but it seems atleast to me, far and inbetween that I reel one in you know?

Hmm, well, Gabriel, that “euro style double kiss hello” will definitely put you in the “friend zone”. You sound like a really nice guy, which is a good thing, of course, but maybe try holding back just a little.

The “euro style double kiss hello” makes me think of a hairdresser I used to go to, who always did that, and also would say “Hi, dahh-ling”, and “love you madly”.

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/8 "2009-02-27T18:14:18Z")

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Ouch, It’s just a thing with me. I’ve been over there and I travel a lot. I have friends currently from europe and I guess I never thought about it like that before…

hmmm… got me thinking now…

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**Author:** ![future777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/future777/32/2258_2.png) [@future777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/future777)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/9 "2009-02-27T18:21:00Z")

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> [@djandarial](#):
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> BTW, I am mulling over the instant shine and the ammo to-go as an order…
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> I wonder if I order in like the next hour if it can be next dayed to me for tomarrow???

Well Tisha hands out the gift certificate. She is our fantastic board moderator and hostess, and when you hear from her you will be good to go.

Assuming, of course, that you want to wait for the gift certificate before you order haha.

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/10 "2009-02-27T18:31:16Z")

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I can’t choose, which do you think if I had to just pick one?

[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or Instant shine?

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**Author:** ![future777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/future777/32/2258_2.png) [@future777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/future777)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/11 "2009-02-27T18:34:14Z")

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Based on what you said, Ammo. Shine is a great [social pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/), but ammo has that attraction vibe that youre looking for.

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/12 "2009-02-28T05:59:04Z")

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Placed my order earlier today, got the to-go of ammo and IS

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/13 "2009-03-01T14:46:35Z")

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Hello There Gabriel

Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

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> Which is weird because I adopted the euro style double kiss hello, welcome and parting hugs way the hell back when. I alwayse seem like the “real nice guy” but it seems atleast to me, far and inbetween that I reel one in you know?

I have to agree with sillykitty on this. When I first read it I thought the very same thing as her. If you react this way with most girls you know or meet it puts you directly in the non threatening friends box. If you were in Europe it would be different but good lord man your in Texas. Men don’t kiss you in Texas unless they mean it. Thats part of there intrigue and pull. You doing this with friends frequently indicates I want nothing more then friendship. I am not intriguing. Your signaling your passive or dispassionate. So we automatically put you in the friends box. You need to create a little sexual tension even with friends. It doesn’t mean you want to have sex with everyone, it means "I am male and in my prime,virile, riveting " defiantly more appealing as a mate choice. Leaves some anticipation which peaks the kind of interest your seeking.

The male friends that always greet me with a kiss or hug… well I like them as people but it sort of takes the male out of masculine. Kissing and hugging should be reserved for escalation of interest. Birthdays and special occasions are fine though.

AMMO is a good choice to move you out of the safty zone and onto the potential mate area

**Your GC has been sent**. 😃

Tisha  
Hostess/Guide

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/14 "2009-03-01T21:20:13Z")

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Cool…

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/15 "2009-03-03T08:52:18Z")

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Applied my GC today, waiting on my last order to be shipped, but I figured what the heck, I’ll use the GC and see if they can ship them together and have them arrive about the same time.

I used the GC to get “Turn up the heat” TOGO and “Instant openness” TOGO.

So I have on the way:

Instant Shine - TOGO  
[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) - TOGO  
Ammunition - TOGO  
Turn up the heat - TOGO

One heck of a lot of product to test out.

What is recomended for application site prep or clean up before shower o remove left over particles?

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/26551/16 "2009-03-03T23:09:01Z")

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> What is recomended for application site prep or clean up before shower o remove left over particles?

You dont have to prep for application. Just take a shower like normal. As for removing buildup which can happen with anone products after continueous use you can use some witch hazel on a cotton ball on application sites. Its inexpensive and sold at the supermarket or drug store.

Be sure to start with one at a time so you can get a feel for what each one can do and how much you need. Try them in different environments to.

Start with one spray and work you way up till you find your dosage (sweet spot)

Good places for applying (not all at once) AMMO and TUTH … Chest, neck, back of neck jaw line, forearms and in intimate situation in a sweeping motion down your abs toward home plate 😃

For Ishine and IO same as above but hair is also a good place to use it.

Have fun

Tisha
