# Hello All

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [June 10, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689 "2011-06-10T16:15:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Rador](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rador/32/968_2.png) [@Rador](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rador)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/1 "2011-06-10T16:15:51Z")

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Hey guys! My name is Charlie and I’m a 28 year old male from Canada. I am totally new to the world of pheromones and don’t exactly know where to start. I’ve been reading things here and there about the effects pheromones can have on attracting members of the opposite sex, and kind of got interested. 😃

I seem to be able to attract the ladies as friends - they are very talkative and at ease with me - but I can never seem to turn it into something more physical. I am a bit overweight and I read that online that this could mean I’m possibly producing a lot of Androstenol naturally, which could explain the friends-only situation with the women.

If anyone has any tips on which [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) might be right for me, I would greatly appreciate your input. I would prefer a stand alone product that isn’t going to break the bank and that doesn’t have an overpowering smell.

Thanks in advance for your help and I’m looking forward to learning more from you all. 🙂

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/2 "2011-06-10T16:54:55Z")

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Hey there, Charlie/Rador, welcome to the mone forum! For what your looking for… attraction… several can be used as such because the primary component for the attraction is you. You’ll have to incline/push the mone to attracting gals.

Yeah, you seem to have a natural IO about you… but even this can be used by you to get further by your personality. You need to keep your eyes peeled and move the convo’s forward to your ‘destination’…

There are several threads that can help out such as this one:

> [@How to Tell a Woman is Interested In You -- The Master "Indicators of Interest List"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333):
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> Multiple looks. Women have much better If you catch us looking at you more than once, it’s probably becuse we’re attracted and we can’t help it. You catching us looking at all. Women look at you fast. If you catch us looking at you, this may be because we’re attracted. Not always (I get horrified when I see someone catching me looking when I’m not actually interested), but often. You guys have muscle, but we have social muscles. WHen you catch us being less than discreet, we often mean it and/…

Now, AMMO would be my first choice mone wise. It’s a sexy man, confident to be in his skin vibe. I enjoy its effects during the day and in the evening. However, the overpowering scent… AMMO is cologne strength, @ 20%. So, it could fit that description of overpowering… do you use colognes now? If so, this won’t be much different scent-wise. The scent is used as the carrier of the mones, so bear that in mind.  
I would also suggest some IG to get a leader of the pack, someone you can rely on, confident man vibe. You can steer this with your personality as well to a more sexy man vibe. This isn’t cologne strength, it’s at @ 6%…

You could try AMMO in a TOGO and some IG in a 30ml bottle…

We are here to support our fellow mone users so… ask away!! 🙂

How’d you find this forum, BTW?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/3 "2011-06-10T17:04:05Z")

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Hi Charlie - Welcome to Pherotalk.

If you have few problems getting to know people, I would suggest Ammo as your best start. Its a healthy/sexy but sociable mix of the three main pheros that is good in most social situations.

You will need to test it to find your most effective dose, so look up Steve’s “Sweet Spot” thread for info on that - pretty much, you start with one spray, see what happens and work-up till you get the best dose. 🙂

Beyond that, the socials - [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), IO, IH and IG have a lot to offer as they help build the kind of comfort and intrest that contributes to overall attraction. You can also further steer Ammo’s effects in different directions. However, you should get to grips with each one on its own first.

IS - gives a happy & good to be around feeling.  
IO - promotes flowing conversation.  
IH - helps with closeness & bonding.  
IG - gives a smooth/suave/status impression but without the overpowering qualities of A314.

You may also find it worthwile to read-up on attractive behaviours and traits - again, plenty info and pointers in the Men’s forum. 🙂

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/4 "2011-06-10T17:09:45Z")

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Charlie - yes, as 1Alpha suggests, Ammo in standard scent is a love/hate thing. Personally I Think it mings but the version in “[World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/)” scent is far more plesant - you get that under the “alternative versions” link.

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**Author:** ![Rador](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rador/32/968_2.png) [@Rador](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rador)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/5 "2011-06-10T18:32:24Z")

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Thanks for the tips guys! I think I’m going to give the IG 30ml and the TOGO Ammo “[World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/)” a go and see what happens. Thanks again for the help, it is greatly appreciated.

BTW, I found this forum through a Google search. I can’t remember the exact search term I used but it was something like “does male hormone colognes work?”. A Yahoo Answers page came up as one of the results and it had a link to the forums. Thank you Google! 🙂

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/6 "2011-06-10T18:53:33Z")

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I’m glad you found this site Charlie - A good number of other phero sites and forums are pretty much fronts for scam products or blatently misrepresented/oversold.

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/7 "2011-06-10T19:32:52Z")

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Hi Charlie, welcome!

The guys have made perfect suggestions! Though you should also seriously consider [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), which will give you an aura of trust, comfort, and will also encourage more intimate conversation and emotional bonding - essential to help get past that “friend” level.

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**Author:** ![Rador](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rador/32/968_2.png) [@Rador](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rador)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/8 "2011-06-11T01:56:23Z")

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I went ahead and ordered the IG 30ml and the TOGO [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). However, after reading that the Ammo FF21 had a scent like laundry or Irish Spring bath soap, I decided to give that a try instead of the world edition. It will probably take a while to get here as shipping can be slow in my area, but I’ll report any findings when they arrive. 🙂

> [@Sillykitty](#):
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> Hi Charlie, welcome!
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> The guys have made perfect suggestions! Though you should also seriously consider Instant Honesty, which will give you an aura of trust, comfort, and will also encourage more intimate conversation and emotional bonding - essential to help get past that “friend” level.

Thanks for the advice SK. I’ll have to keep IH in mind for my next order.

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/9 "2011-06-11T03:49:32Z")

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Mickaelia didn’t come around to issue your $25 gift certificate yet, just wait, if you didn’t order yet. They won’t go out til Monday anyway. Also, you get $5 just for registering at the Androtics Smartmones store.

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**Author:** ![Rador](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rador/32/968_2.png) [@Rador](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rador)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/10 "2011-06-11T03:59:22Z")

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> [@Sillykitty](#):
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> Mickaelia didn’t come around to issue your $25 gift certificate yet, just wait, if you didn’t order yet. They won’t go out til Monday anyway. Also, you get $5 just for registering at the Androtics Smartmones store.

I actually received my $25 GC email already. I used it along with my $5 registration credit on the IG/Ammo order I made earlier today.

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/11 "2011-06-11T04:01:35Z")

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Okay, good. I was worried there for a second, because usually Mickaelia posts in the person’s thread when she issues the GC.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/12 "2011-06-13T02:19:30Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Rador!

I am glad that my team was able to assist you in deciding what products will be best for you.

Enjoy your products when you do receive them.

**Your gc was issued!**

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/13 "2011-06-13T02:20:50Z")

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> [@Sillykitty](#):
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> Okay, good. I was worried there for a second, because usually Mickaelia posts in the person’s thread when she issues the GC.

What I do is issue the gift certificates the same day as the introductory thread was posted or the day after depending and reply to the post to give you guys a chance to answer and earn your reward points. 😉

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/14 "2011-06-13T02:50:46Z")

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> [@kelsey](#):
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> What I do is issue the gift certificates the same day as the introductory thread was posted or the day after depending and reply to the post to give you guys a chance to answer and earn your reward points. 😉

You’re so sweet and thoughtful!!! One of the many reasons I love you!!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/15 "2011-06-14T02:26:35Z")

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Nice! Great that you’ve got your mone house in order… Rador… or is it, Dalek!? 😃

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**Author:** ![Rador](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rador/32/968_2.png) [@Rador](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rador)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-all/50689/16 "2011-06-14T02:34:00Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
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> Nice! Great that you’ve got your mone house in order… Rador… or is it, Dalek!? 😃

Hah hah hah…yeah. I’m a big Doctor Who fan! 🆒

Thanks for the welcome! BTW, I’ve been reading through your “Starting out with mones” journal and am loving it…it’s a great read. I can’t wait to see what effects mones have on my life!
