# Hello..!!and here is my detailed intro

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [May 4, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499 "2012-05-04T23:23:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![ExprimeTOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/0ea827/32.png) [@ExprimeTOR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ExprimeTOR)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/1 "2012-05-04T23:23:02Z")

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Hi, i am 28 year Indian male from Bangalore and my arsenal includes SOE , Liquid trust(not mone..but oxytocin).🙂  
I’m really excited to be here..apart from pherhormones i have also tried other stuff like peptides, oxytocin etc. And as far as pherhormones are concerned.. i have been forums like pheromonetalk..on regular basis…  
So, basically…i am in a mood of trying a wide variety of products and from different companies to currently to achieve the following goals:

1.Since at work , i need to convince my clients and my teams … to go for an new idea (it might me very wacky and may and may not work. ..i need  
them to be open and trust me)+ for self effect i need to be more attentive and grasps in the unsaid details  
2.I’m looking to attract some females, but i work.. long hours sooo…☹  
3.Also, i am in a long distance relationship. For few months.. i am desperately looking something that can work… get her the wife vibe ,hence also finding a  
product for this issue in my life…specifically looking for the product that if used the my other half respond like “love only me” i.e. responds to only my signals.

Going through the blog , figured out that i can add following to my Arsenal..(i think ..that?s too much to order in one go..my pockets are now feeling the pain),but would love to try the following 😛😃

for issue 1.–\>\>IS/IG +IO+IH+A314 == hell lot of cost  
isssue 2.–\>\>nude Alpha vs TUTH with IO or cttm-----need advice  
issue 3.–\>\>may be some puratives?or MX(i actually wanted to test some)P84?

Other tech details:🆒  
Blood group type:A+  
Personality type: INFJ

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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/2 "2012-05-04T23:35:13Z")

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Hi there,

Scent of eros is a pretty good product.Not to sure about liquid trust but as long as it works(^\_^)Sounds likes you have a very good mindset and trying lots of things will definitely be a fun process for you.Hmm,for the goals you listed.

1.Would go with IG/A314+IH.You dont really need IO for this case and IS is optional but you can add it in if you want.Since your in charge the slightly intimidating vibe of A314 may work better than IG and the IH will buffer it enough that its a good intimidation as well as adding an extra trust factor to it.

2.Attraction wise.I wouldnt really use TUTH,although it could work if you buffer it with enough IO.[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is quite a bit better attraction wise along with some IS or IO.TUTH is usually more for when your already in a relationship.Nude alphas a pretty good product if you already have it.Would try both and see what fits you better though.

3.Relationship mones to feel closer would go with p74+IH for the bonding feeling with ammo.P83 is the one your thinking of not P84,its more a disinhibitor though.Not sure what p84 does(\>\_\<)Probably wont be necessary in this case since your going more for comfort and bonding.You might also want to look into some androstadienone from love-scent.You cant get it from here though.TAC is also something that you may want to look into.

All the best and let us know what you decide.Dont hesitate to ask if you want to know anything.

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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/3 "2012-05-04T23:51:06Z")

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Hi there,

Scent of eros is a pretty good product.Not to sure about liquid trust but as long as it works(^\_^)Sounds likes you have a very good mindset and trying lots of things will definitely be a fun process for you.Hmm,for the goals you listed.

1.Would go with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/)/A314+Instant Honesty.You dont really need Instant Openness for this case and IS is optional but you can add it in if you want.Since your in charge the slightly intimidating vibe of A314 may work better than Instant Gentleman and the Instant Honesty will buffer it enough that its a good intimidation as well as adding an extra trust factor to it.

2.Attraction wise.I wouldnt really use Turn Up The Heat,although it could work if you buffer it with enough Instant Openness.Ammo is quite a bit better attraction wise along with some IS or Instant Openness.Turn Up The Heat is usually more for when your already in a relationship.Nude alphas a pretty good product if you already have it.Would try both and see which fits you better though.

3.Relationship pheromones to feel closer would go with p74+ IH for the bonding feeling with ammo.P83 is the one your thinking of not P84,its more a disinhibitor though.Not sure what p84 does(\>\_\<)Probably wont be necessary in this case since your going more for comfort and bonding.You might also want to look into some androstadienone from love-scent.You cant get it from here though.TAC is also something that you may want to look into.

All the best and let us know what you decide.Dont hesitate to ask if you want to know anything.

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**Author:** ![Hydro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hydro/32/329_2.png) [@Hydro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hydro)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/4 "2012-05-05T02:03:20Z")

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Hey ExperimenTOR,

Welcome to PT. You have some great advice above, already.  
You have proposed some quite complex mixes, do try to test all the products you get on their own first and spend some time to identify the correct dose for you & your targets. I’d probably try and focus on a few less products so you can get the best out of them and not end up with a draw full of products and no time to test them (personal experience)

For the objectives you describe, much like Looifookmeng has suggested, I’d try

1. A314 (oil) + IH
2. Ammo
3. Ammo + IS

I’d save the Putatives & Experimones for your second order as they are harder to get to grips with and your experience with the instant line will give you a better refernce to work from.

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**Author:** ![ExprimeTOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/0ea827/32.png) [@ExprimeTOR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ExprimeTOR)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 7:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/5 "2012-05-05T07:39:28Z")

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Thanks for the advice!!..looifookmeng & Pheromone Master  
@looifookmeng.. P84 was a typo ..i meant P83 and yep..trying different stuffs definitely is fun for me.😃  
@Hydro.. will follow your advice regarding Putatives & Experimones ..but P83 ..is not getting out of my mind and is coming out with really good reviews..😛

Regarding A314:i am a bit doubtful while using it in office as ,my boss also participates in technical discussions .. Sometimes he wrong and i defiantly don’t want to hit his ego…😉  
and one thing more when going through the reg. process of the forum …i found this option to enter by blood group… i really don’t understand the relation between blood group type and [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)…?:o

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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 7:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/6 "2012-05-05T07:50:27Z")

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> [@ExprimeTOR](#):
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> Thanks for the advice!!..looifookmeng & Pheromone Master  
> @looifookmeng.. P84 was a typo ..i meant P83 and yep..trying different stuffs definitely is fun for me.😃  
> @Hydro.. will follow your advice regarding Putatives & Experimones ..but P83 ..is not getting out of my mind and is coming out with really good reviews..😛
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> Regarding A314:i am a bit doubtful while using it in office as ,my boss also participates in technical discussions .. Sometimes he wrong and i defiantly don’t want to hit his ego…😉  
> and one thing more when going through the reg. process of the forum …i found this option to enter by blood group… i really don’t understand the relation between blood group type and pheromones…?:o

Hmm,if your worried about stepping on your boss’s toes.Instant gentleman is probably a better bet than A314.Alpha while not being too alpha.  
For the blood type,its supposed to affect your [pheromone](https://a314.com/) and testosterone production.Not really sure though.The original thread was a fair while back.You can give it a read below

> [@The Blood Type / Pheromone Connection?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-blood-type-pheromone-connection/16):
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> Dr. D’Adamo (along with his father) have linked together diet and blood type, because blood type is probably the world’s simplest indicator of your genetic type. I’ve seen more positive feedback on this diet than any other – maybe 90%. It’s a powerful idea. Pheromone users have for years noticed a strong correlation between [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and genetic type, but nobody has really brought blood type into the equation. I’m now doing so. Call it “Pheromone Right For Your Blood Type” (PR4YT), if you wi…

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**Author:** ![ExprimeTOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/0ea827/32.png) [@ExprimeTOR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ExprimeTOR)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/7 "2012-05-05T07:51:49Z")

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My Experiments with SOE…are more of social kind..was appreciated my people around me especially ..my boss..but the other day …and till now only got appreciation from males when i combined it with regular cologne …:o  
self effect :i feel a bit relaxed ..  
Location: lifts, cubicles

Liquid trust: very less and non noticeable effect..its an oxytocin..not pherohormone !! very small shelf life 😠

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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 8:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/8 "2012-05-05T08:07:11Z")

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> [@ExprimeTOR](#):
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> My Experiments with SOE…are more of social kind..was appreciated my people around me especially ..my boss..but the other day …and till now only got appreciation from males when i combined it with regular cologne …:o  
> self effect :i feel a bit relaxed ..  
> Location: lifts, cubicles
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> Liquid trust: very less and non noticeable effect..its an oxytocin..not pherohormone !! very small shelf life 😠

Haha,cool.Interesting that you only got appreciation from males though.Wonder why.Haha,wasnt sure about the use of oxytocin as a pheromone so havent tried liquid trust.Liquid trust was pretty expensive too(\>\_\<)

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 8:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/9 "2012-05-05T08:14:32Z")

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> [@ExprimeTOR](#):
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> for issue 1.–\>\>IS/IG +IO+IH+A314 == hell lot of cost

Especially as you have IO in there - IO is the product you use to tone down A314s effects, so you end-up needing more. Personally, I find IO wrecks A314 entirely. Try less A314 instead - A314/IH however - a superb work mix! 🙂

Equally, I find IS/IH a great alternative to IO - And its quality conversation rather than quantity, so again, this pairing IMO renders IO superfluous in the mix.

Similarly IG - This is mainly rone and the A314 (also mainly rone) steering will push the effect towards the heavier end of the status scale. Sweet spot your A314 properly and you won’t need it - the IS will provide all the lightness you need.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 9:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/10 "2012-05-05T09:18:59Z")

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> [@ExprimeTOR](#):
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> isssue 2.–\>\>nude Alpha vs TUTH with IO or cttm-----need advice

I don’t know Nude Alpha so can’t comment there.

TUTH with IO is a good mix in clubs/parties/more raunchy environments but if I read right that you are planning on using it at work, think again. TUTH sends a very overt and immediate sexual vibe which can backfire badly in the wrong environment. It can get taken as aggressive, creepy or just far too horny for your own good.

The CCTM will help moderate this somewhat but again, IO is 50% of CTTM anyway - so you are doubling it up and using three products to get towards a mix towards a mix that is pretty-much Ammo. Why not just use that instead - It is a far more acceptable work/polite social mix for attraction and if you have any remaining A314 from your workday mix, it will complement it superbly.

> [@](#):
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> issue 3.–\>\>may be some puratives?or MX(i actually wanted to test some)P84?

There are plenty very useful putatives that can help round-out and steer your mixes in different directions but you won’t get the best of them till you have done the legwork and learned how the consumer products work for you. It really is a good idea to get to grips with them first and it will also save you a lot of wasted money/products. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ExprimeTOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/0ea827/32.png) [@ExprimeTOR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ExprimeTOR)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 10:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/11 "2012-05-05T10:58:58Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> I don’t know Nude Alpha so can’t comment there.
> 
> TUTH with IO is a good mix in clubs/parties/more raunchy environments but if I read right that you are planning on using it at work, think again. TUTH sends a very overt and immediate sexual vibe which can backfire badly in the wrong environment. It can get taken as aggressive, creepy or just far too horny for your own good.
> 
> The CCTM will help moderate this somewhat but again, IO is 50% of CTTM anyway - so you are doubling it up and using three products to get towards a mix towards a mix that is pretty-much Ammo. Why not just use that instead - It is a far more acceptable work/polite social mix for attraction and if you have any remaining A314 from your workday mix, it will complement it superbly.
> 
> There are plenty very useful putatives that can help round-out and steer your mixes in different directions but you won’t get the best of them till you have done the legwork and learned how the consumer products work for you. It really is a good idea to get to grips with them first and it will also save you a lot of wasted money/products. 🙂

hmmm… that’s a detailed,experienced solution ..!!😃 Thanks mobocaster 🙂

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**Author:** ![ExprimeTOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/0ea827/32.png) [@ExprimeTOR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ExprimeTOR)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/12 "2012-05-05T12:25:24Z")

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After getting suggestions ,and considering few more things , this is what it looks like please suggest:

1. nude alpha+IH-- during work 😉

2)IG+IH–ofiice\<\<– i think IG over A314 will be a good choice as i will be going for a interview for soon, for (software **technical job** ). although i was 1st thinking A314 buffred with +SOE(as i already have it 😃)+IH

3)P74+P83+Ammo\<\<– in case (nude alpha + IH) fails to work 😮  
4)androstadienone\<\<– may be some time in future 🆒  
AS far as MX are concerned ..i have read if my order exceed 100$, randomly may be i can get some sample to try on ..!! 🙄

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/13 "2012-05-05T13:10:24Z")

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A314/SOE - SOE will soften the A314 in much the same way as IO as it has a high proportion of alphanol.

SOE - 80% nol, 20% rone

IO - 70% alpanol, 30% betanol plus unspecified component.

IH - 70% betanol, 30% alphanol plus unspecified component. - This does not weaken the A314 in anything like the same way.

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**Author:** ![ExprimeTOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/0ea827/32.png) [@ExprimeTOR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ExprimeTOR)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/14 "2012-05-05T23:12:20Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> A314/SOE - SOE will soften the A314 in much the same way as IO as it has a high proportion of alphanol.
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> SOE - 80% nol, 20% rone
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> IO - 70% alpanol, 30% betanol plus unspecified component.
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> IH - 70% betanol, 30% alphanol plus unspecified component. - This does not weaken the A314 in anything like the same way.

mobocaster.. can you guide me to the thread or URl where i can find such a detailed information about ingredients?😕  
and can u also please suggest some good combination in which SOE can be used?🙄

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**Author:** ![ExprimeTOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/0ea827/32.png) [@ExprimeTOR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ExprimeTOR)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/15 "2012-05-07T22:14:26Z")

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hmmm..i think i can make a good use of GC here…!!😃😃

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/16 "2012-05-08T03:01:19Z")

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> [@ExprimeTOR](#):
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> mobocaster.. can you guide me to the thread or URl where i can find such a detailed information about ingredients?😕  
> and can u also please suggest some good combination in which SOE can be used?🙄

There is no single thread on this - you pick it up by reading. Useful gems like this slip out here there and everywhere! 🙂

The major components of all AD products are listed on their store pages, although secondary/steering components are not listed for reasons of commercial confidence.

Very broadly, you could also substitute SOE for IO in many mixes as it has a similar social feel, although SOE is maybe slightly more substantial/less playful due to its rone content, where IO uses betanol to underpin its brightness.

There are good threads here already on using SOE with other pheros, so searching would be your best bet - there are other posters here with far more experience of SOE than I.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 6:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/17 "2012-05-08T06:32:47Z")

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I’m sure your introduction qualifies for a GC, but you’ll need to contact Mickaelia as she handles this.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 9:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/18 "2012-05-08T09:12:06Z")

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Check you spam buffer - GCs can and do get caught by that. Mickaelia usually issues them pretty fast, even though it can take her a few days longer to catch-up and post on the thread.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 10:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/19 "2012-05-08T10:38:16Z")

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Also keep in mind it was a weekend when you signed up and we just don’t work 24/7, although at times it seems like it. That’s also not accounting for the fact I was away gallivanting, partying and womanizing since last Thursday. I’m sure she was pretty busy. Technically its 24-48 hours to get a gift certificate and anything over the weekend is considered as posted on Monday. You should have one today, if its not in your inbox already 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 10:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-and-here-is-my-detailed-intro/55499/20 "2012-05-09T10:33:29Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Exprime!

You have to understand pheromones limitations and what they can do and they are not magic and make others act against their will.

I just wanted to emphasize this but my team gave you sound advise.

_ **Your gc was issued!** _

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