# Hello, another Newbie!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [December 14, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141 "2006-12-14T01:07:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chas/32/1042_2.png) [@Chas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Chas)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/1 "2006-12-14T01:07:39Z")

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Hello everyone.

Just like most new people on here (i would imagine), i’m a bit of a skeptic, but i’m interested to try things out. I wouldn’t call myself a chick magnet or anything, but i wouldn’t consider myself helpless either. In fact, in high school i guess i was a chick magnet haha. But now i don’t really have as much time to think about all of that, being a first year teacher and all.

Anyway, i’ve done a lot of research for the last couple days and decided to register on here, as it seems to be the only site aroud that doesn’t have an agenda (though you do sell your own products).

Looking forward to trying something new,

Chas

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**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/2 "2006-12-14T01:25:13Z")

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> [@Chas](#):
>
> Hello everyone.
> 
> Just like most new people on here (i would imagine), i’m a bit of a skeptic, but i’m interested to try things out. I wouldn’t call myself a chick magnet or anything, but i wouldn’t consider myself helpless either. In fact, in high school i guess i was a chick magnet haha. But now i don’t really have as much time to think about all of that, being a first year teacher and all.
> 
> Anyway, i’ve done a lot of research for the last couple days and decided to register on here, as it seems to be the only site aroud that doesn’t have an agenda (though you do sell your own products).
> 
> Looking forward to trying something new,
> 
> Chas

Hey Chas! Chick magnet, wow! Maybe we should have extracted your pheromones when you were in high school and slathered on us.😃

as it seems to be the only site aroud that doesn’t have an agenda

Couldn’t agree with you more. I was pleasantly surprised to discover this site too when I landed here about a year back. I must say my perception about pheromones have totally altered since then.

Well for skeptics…IH is a prime recommendation by many users. Since when using IH people around the user and sometimes the user themselves reveal stuff which you know they would never in normal circumstances. You can give it a shot. But I personally have no doubt that pheromones work. Many users here have spend thousands of dollars on various [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). We won’t if they didn’t work. Another popular recommendation for newbies is Instant Shine which is really great for lifting the mood of yourself and people around you. It’s self effects are immediately obvious upon application. Also it is great at bringing people closer to you.

So what we know about you now is that you are male, first year teacher and a chick magnet in high school. Can you tell us a little bit more? Also what are you trying to achieve with pheromones. Are you looking for sexual results or trying to gain respect in the work environment or just looking for something simple to wear everyday for your own mood enhancement. If you took a peek at the store you will see that there are many many products, each have their own usage. So read a little bit through the forums, tell us some more about your aims and we will help you get started in your pheromonal journey.🙂

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**Author:** ![Muse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/muse/32/2388_2.png) [@Muse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Muse)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/3 "2006-12-14T02:13:40Z")

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> [@nbully79](#):
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> So what we know about you now is that you are male, first year teacher and a chick magnet in high school.

Hey, a fellow teacher! Well, I work with kindergartners and found out the hard way not to use instant openness around the kids. They were off the wall. So what do you teach?

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**Author:** ![Chas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chas/32/1042_2.png) [@Chas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Chas)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/4 "2006-12-14T02:27:30Z")

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Well, I guess i’m looking for a few different things.

At work (school), it might be useful to have a little more respect and the like, especially as a first year teacher, it’s hard to avoid that “newb” stigma. Although i’m guessing trying any of this stuff in a school would be quite dangerous and not worth the potential problems (room full of high school students + TUTH = BAD idea!), so my main reason for being on this site would have to be my outside of work life.

As for that social life, well, i JUST moved to a town on the Jersey Shore, and once the summer comes along there is going to be quite a night life around here (it helps that teachers have the summer off!). I’m looking forward to it, and certainly wouldn’t mind getting a bit of an “edge”, so to speak. For now i know only a couple of people in my new town, all males. I’m assuming that will change (it better!).

For now i wouldn’t mind just trying things out. I’m in decent shape, and i’ve been working out more and eating less because of my schedule, so i suppose i could be in better shape by summer. Oh, and i have an Australian accent…guess i should have mentioned that sooner 🙂

Looking back on what i just wrote, maybe it seems like i shouldn’t really need any extra help. It’s not like that at all. I consider myself shy, though i guess i’m not TOO shy. I do have a tendency to hit the “friend” zone quite often though.

Now, about your suggestions…

I haven’t read too much about Instant Honesty yet. If i’m slightly skeptical about pheromones, then you can imagine my thoughts about a “truth serum” of sorts (though that doesn’t mean i’ll knock it without trying it, just not sure i want to start off with that).

From what i’ve read, i think [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) might be useful. I would think Instant Shine would be great, but i’ve also read some negatives about it on this forum, so i’m not exactly sure. And the whole experimental section, and mixing…i’m a bit confused by all of that, so maybe i should start off a little more basic!

If i had to guess, maybe a combo like IS + IO could be good, and maybe CCTM, but again, what do i know, having never tried any of this?

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**Author:** ![Chas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chas/32/1042_2.png) [@Chas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Chas)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/5 "2006-12-14T02:29:12Z")

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Can’t find the edit button, so apologies for the double post…

I teach 7th grade science in a school that goes from 7th-12th grade. I also coach the girls soccer team. And i’m the second-youngest teacher at the school (there’s a 22 year old english teacher).

And for those in the UK, i’m a Palace fan.

EDIT: found it…wasn’t there a minute ago!

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**Author:** ![Muse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/muse/32/2388_2.png) [@Muse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Muse)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/6 "2006-12-14T02:34:20Z")

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> [@Chas](#):
>
> Can’t find the edit button, so apologies for the double post…
> 
> I teach 7th grade science in a school that goes from 7th-12th grade. I also coach the girls soccer team. And i’m the second-youngest teacher at the school (there’s a 22 year old english teacher).
> 
> And for those in the UK, i’m a Palace fan.
> 
> EDIT: found it…wasn’t there a minute ago!

Well, I’d definitely avoid this stuff at work..between your aussie accent and hormonal teens, you could find yourself in a world of trouble (😮)

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/7 "2006-12-14T04:06:48Z")

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Honey! I was going to say, that Aussie accent is going to come in right handy … American women looooove that. As you’ve probably found out already …

One [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) that might be useful for you at school is A314. I would think it could help establish your authority in the classroom … and with the other teachers!

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/8 "2006-12-14T04:32:24Z")

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> [@Muse](#):
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> Hey, a fellow teacher! Well, I work with kindergartners and found out the hard way not to use instant openness around the kids. They were off the wall. So what do you teach?

Wow!! I didn’t know pheromone forum can be soooooo interesting!! I wished I could be a kindergarten boy again!!😛 😃

Btw, Chas, Welcome aboard and good luck!🙂

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/9 "2006-12-14T06:24:30Z")

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Ahoy Chas!

I can tell your posts are going to be _iiiiinteresting_. Oooh.. if my 7th grade teacher had an Aussie accent, I would be swooning well into my 20s. I can’t believe how silly that is, but it’s true. American girls love an accent. Haha!

> [@Carrie](#):
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> One pheromone that might be useful for you at school is A314. I would think it could help establish your authority in the classroom … and with the other teachers!

Miz Carrie is right on the nose about this one; A314 in the classroom would be great.

ESPECIALLY with a room full of 12-13 year olds, who are _just_ starting to figure out the boundaries of their independence. I remember when I was that age, I expressed myself by being rebellious and _sassy_. 😉

Junior high is that magnificent transitional time, where for the first time in a young person’s life, their classroom education isn’t “spoonfed”. They are _asked_ their opinion, they are encouraged to _critically think.._. They have voices!

I’d imagine you could create a real positive, encouraging tempo in the classroom wearing A314. With the domineering “fatherly” figure aura that A314 exudes, A314 could likely contribute to a more orderly, sane classroom (instead of one fraught with sassy, outspoken teenagers, raging hormones, and attention deficit disorder.😉)

Test that out for me, Chas… By now its halfway through the school year and you have a firm grasp on how restless or focused or scatterbrained your groups are… especially _right before_ lunchtime, when I’d think they would be most energetic and fidgety. I wonder how your classroom dynamic would change under the influence of A314?

> [@Muse](#):
>
> Hey, a fellow teacher! Well, I work with kindergartners and found out the hard way not to use instant openness around the kids. They were off the wall. So what do you teach?

Off the wall kindergartners? Ay caramba, Muse! I thought that kindergarteners were _already_ off the wall (hey, just my kind of people! 😉)

I’m curious: What was your dosage when you observed this? I have reports of the components of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) actually _mellowing out_ 5-ish year olds, and making them a wee bit more “under control”. Your feedback has me wondering what sort of effects you can have on little folks, and at what dosage.

I have a lady who wears a squirt or two of Spaceland around her 5 and 13 year old, and they go from hyperactive headbangers to quietly reading on the couch and listening to mummy’s directions. Interesting, huh?

Ooh, looks like I forged this thread off track.

… Anyway, Welcome to the forum, Chas! Your gift cert has been sent. Can’t wait to hear your feedback!

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 10:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/10 "2006-12-14T10:58:23Z")

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I’d guess that A314 – lower dose, consistently – could easily garner you ‘teacher of the year’.

Don’t put it on and wait for something to happen – just apply the scantest amount each school day (and take the weekends off) and forget that it’s there.

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**Author:** ![Chas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chas/32/1042_2.png) [@Chas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Chas)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 12:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/11 "2006-12-14T12:11:16Z")

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I guess I may have to make A314 my first purchase. I’ll definitely keep everyone posted.

By the way, in which part of the forum does one post general results? Would it be the Men’s forum? I think I might have seen a forum specifically for A314 as well.

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**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/12 "2006-12-14T14:54:22Z")

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> [@Chas](#):
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> I guess I may have to make A314 my first purchase. I’ll definitely keep everyone posted.
> 
> By the way, in which part of the forum does one post general results? Would it be the Men’s forum? I think I might have seen a forum specifically for A314 as well.

You can post your results on men’s forum. Some A314 specific results could be shared in the A314 section too but remember that section is only accessible to A314 buyers. So if you want a larger audience, men’s forum is the place to post, but if you want to be exclusive then A314 section.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/13 "2006-12-14T20:50:32Z")

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> [@Chas](#):
>
> I guess I may have to make A314 my first purchase. I’ll definitely keep everyone posted.
> 
> By the way, in which part of the forum does one post general results? Would it be the Men’s forum? I think I might have seen a forum specifically for A314 as well.

The Men’s Pheromone forum is usually fine for all pheromone oriented feedback.

The A314 Insider’s club is a success & persuasion oriented forum. It’s for the _kind of people_ who buy A314, rather than A314 itself. Gives them an “envy free” discussion zone, out of the public view. It’s not really for most pheromonal discussions, unless an individual needs extra privacy on a select topic that most people shouldn’t see.

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**Author:** ![Muse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/muse/32/2388_2.png) [@Muse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Muse)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/14 "2006-12-14T21:41:36Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> Off the wall kindergartners? Ay caramba, Muse! I thought that kindergarteners were _already_ off the wall (hey, just my kind of people! 😉)
> 
> I’m curious: What was your dosage when you observed this? I have reports of the components of Instant Openness actually _mellowing out_ 5-ish year olds, and making them a wee bit more “under control”. Your feedback has me wondering what sort of effects you can have on little folks, and at what dosage.
> 
> I have a lady who wears a squirt or two of Spaceland around her 5 and 13 year old, and they go from hyperactive headbangers to quietly reading on the couch and listening to mummy’s directions. Interesting, huh?

My dosage wass two squirts..one on wrist and then dabbed on the other and on my hair…yea, and I guess “off the wall” and kindergartners go hand in hand, but ,more like out of control. I mean, usually they’re telling me that I’m the crazy one! But I do have an ADHD kid. What would you suggest around him?

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/15 "2006-12-14T22:08:07Z")

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Muse: If you go to the list of members, and locate Noblelady, access her posts. She has one daughter (possibly two) with ADHD, and gives great info on what products from here she uses around her, with great success.

I think she is in the middle of relocating at the moment, and hasn’t been around for a few months, but her posts will give you the answers you are looking for in the time-being.

Hope that helps!

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/16 "2006-12-15T00:57:36Z")

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> [@Muse](#):
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> My dosage wass two squirts..one on wrist and then dabbed on the other and on my hair…yea, and I guess “off the wall” and kindergartners go hand in hand, but ,more like out of control. I mean, usually they’re telling me that I’m the crazy one! But I do have an ADHD kid. What would you suggest around him?

It would be highly dosage dependent with Alpha Androstenol. A super high dose product like Spaceland, I can see coming down either adults or children. More reasonable dosages, though, makes adults chatty, and therefore I’m not surprised two sprays of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) made your child more “expressive”.

Instant Honesty gives people a much more “serious” (in terms of content), mellow type expression, more than “off the wall” or babbling that Alpha Androstenol can bring. More like a warm, cozy conversational vibe by a fire. I imagine that might be good for focusing their energy. As Ail brought up, I’ve love to hear what noblelady on here has been doing with her ADHD kid.

At the very least, I know that if Instant Honesty works around children, then it would be great for your _relationship_ with them. With adults, it’s a true relationship enhancement device. Even when it doesn’t lead to what people would view as a “truth serum” like effect, few would deny that it brings you closer, and leads to much more intimate exchange of information and feelings. If it works on children in this fashion, I’d say it’d be perfect for parents and pedagogues alike.

Things that androsterone (A314, Chemical Romance) or TAL (Instant Sexiness) based might be good around not so easy to control kids, too. I know they work well around not so easy to tame adults! 🙂

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/17 "2006-12-15T01:40:07Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> Instant Honesty gives people a much more “serious” (in terms of content), mellow type expression, more than “off the wall” or babbly that Alpha Androstenol can bring. More like a warm, cozy conversational vibe by a fire. I imagine that might be good for focusing their energy. As Ail brought up, I’ve love to hear what noblelady on here has been doing with her ADHD kid.
> 
> At the very least, I know that if Instant Honesty works around children, then it would be great for your _relationship_ with them. With adults, is a true relationship enhancement device. Even when it doesn’t lead to what people would view as a “truth serum” like effect, few would deny that it brings you closer, and leads to much more intimate exchange of information and feelings. If it works on children in this fashion, I’d say it’d be perfect for parents and pedagogues alike.
> 
> \<snip\>

I noticed in another thread that member **examine** made the observation that beta androstenol gave the subjective impression of “deep intimate communication” – without necessarily having the substantive quality of depth.

Which would be a very interesting distinction.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/18 "2006-12-15T05:32:09Z")

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> [@MarkL](#):
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> I noticed in another thread that member **examine** made the observation that beta androstenol gave the subjective impression of “deep intimate communication” – without necessarily having the substantive quality of depth.
> 
> Which would be a very interesting distinction.

Our very bottles of Come Talk To Me (which are closest to [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)’s formulation today) said “Intimacy in Communication”. It is very intimate, communication wise. Sort of like an “old friend” pheromone, if that makes sense.

I sort of don’t understand your comment above… you said that “ **deep** intimate communication”, doesn’t necessarily imply **depth**. 🙂

I’m sure you meant something different than your fingers wrote. That’s perfectly okay, I do that all the time myself ("Wait, I didn’t say that! Or did I? :o "). Sometimes I wish I had at least 24 hours to put these posts aside before they went live. For the life of me, I can’t spot certain errors in the short term.

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 5:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/19 "2006-12-15T05:56:23Z")

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I got the idea that **examine** was perhaps saying that the feeling of depth and intimacy was there, but that the content didn’t support such a characterization – in other words, that the sense of deep, intimate communication was illusory despite being strongly felt.

NB: The above is one of the possible readings of examine’s comment, and that this interpretation is solely mine – please don’t lay it on him.

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I appreciate the feedback, MHarris, thanks; the meaning of a communication is how it is received, lol, so I can own 100% authorship of the ensuing confusion from my prior post.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/20 "2006-12-15T06:11:58Z")

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> [@MarkL](#):
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> I got the idea that **examine** was perhaps saying that the feeling of depth and intimacy was there, but that the content didn’t support such a characterization – in other words, that the sense of deep, intimate communication was illusory despite being strongly felt.

I’m not sure it’s just a feeling.

I’ve gone to seminars recently, for instance, where I walked away amazed at what someone told me in confidence. Sometimes they comment at on this effect themselves.

> [@](#):
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> NB: The above is one of the possible readings of examine’s comment, and that this interpretation is solely mine – please don’t lay it on him.

Oh, I completely understand. No matter who said anything, it’s perfectly fine. The world is full of different people, all of whom have different experiences. That’s what helps to make the world so beautiful.

Anyway…

Have you gotten to use this molecule yet yourself? It really is very interesting.

I think I’m going to dramatically increases the dosages of it available in INstant Honesty – dump the 1X option, make 2X the new default, and make a new version that’s quadruple what you find in today’s regular strength.

If you pick it up today, definitely get the 2X – using more of some [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is not a good idea, but the effects are definitely better and more apparent with the stronger version of this product.

> [@](#):
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> * * *
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> I appreciate the feedback, MHarris, thanks; the meaning of a communication is how it is received, lol,

And the map is not the territory! Ha!

So you’re into NLP, or perhaps systems theory or linguistics?

> [@](#):
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> so I can own 100% authorship of the ensuing confusion from my prior post.

Again, perfectly okay. I’m not always as clearly spoken as I’d like to be either.

Thanks for clearing up what you meant, by the way.

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