# Hello, another Newbie!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [December 14, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141 "2006-12-14T01:07:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 7:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/21 "2006-12-15T07:10:09Z")

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Well, I was considering that a **trance molecule** had been found – the feeling of being intimately and deeply communicating with someone, even if talking about something mundane or trivial – but which could certainly lead to expectation effect: _I am so comfortable with how intimately (I feel) we are communicating, so of course I will tell you intimate details. (I feel it, so it must be so.)_

In other words, when the conscious mind usually would veto such a disclosure, the trance expectation effect puts the filter in abeyance. Then the conscious mind notices that the opportunity to veto that disclosure has passed … and may even be able, in the moment, to honestly register surprise that such occurred.

> [@MHarris](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> Have you gotten to use this molecule yet yourself? It really is very interesting.
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> I think I’m going to dramatically increases the dosages of it available in INstant Honesty – dump the 1X option, make 2X the new default, and make a new version that’s quadruple what you find in today’s regular strength.
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> If you pick it up today, definitely get the 2X – using more of some pheromones is not a good idea, but the effects are definitely better and more apparent with the stronger version of this product.  
> \<snip\>

Heh .. I submitted my order for IH on Tuesday – and while I ordered 2x, I’d read somewhere that if one asked for it in order notes, that 4x would be provided at no additional charge … though I wasn’t sure if that offer was still on the table.

So at the moment I’m feeling good with the hope/expectation that you’ll OK the 4x version! 🙂

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 7:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/22 "2006-12-15T07:16:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Heh .. I submitted my order for Instant Honesty on Tuesday – and while I ordered 2x, I’d read somewhere that if one asked for it in order notes, that 4x would be provided at no additional charge … though I wasn’t sure if that offer was still on the table.
> 
> So at the moment I’m feeling good with the hope/expectation that you’ll OK the 4x version! 🙂

That was a weekly special for active forum members only, just to get the 4X version out there to testing. You also had to agree to be on our teleconference (phone conference) about pheromone megadosing.

It worked well. Many people liked their 4X versions – especially of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and Instant Shine. Unfortunately, we can’t offer this as a upgrade any longer. It expired long ago and it’s too costly. We can only offer it as a paid option.

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/23 "2006-12-15T07:29:03Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> That was a weekly special for active forum members only, just to get the 4X version out there to testing. You also had to agree to be on our teleconference (phone conference) about pheromone megadosing.
> 
> It worked well. Many people liked their 4X versions – especially of Instant Honesty and Instant Shine. Unfortunately, we can’t offer this as a upgrade any longer. It expired long ago and it’s too costly. We can only offer it as a paid option.

I’d prefer to get the 4x version, paid for. I left a note on the web store contact system to that effect. I use PayPal and will be happy to do whatever I need to in order cover the difference.

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 10:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/24 "2006-12-15T10:19:08Z")

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Every time I have used IH (and I use it a LOT) it is far more than just a feeling. It actually DOES give you the “Truth-serum,” or best-friend vibe with people you hardly know - or have never even met until that encounter - and brings a closeness and intimacy to the conversation, which is very serious in content - if you are one-on-one with someone special, and need to DIG.

Groups however, being affected if I am pumping IH through the Oust diffuser or my Aromastream, always seem to ONLY be affected by the “Truth-serum” effect, and that in itself has resulted in some interesting scenarios at my house parties!

Granted, I generally use X4 strength, and would never go below double-strength, but every single time I have used it, it has offered up the same properties and effects.

…some of whch I was VERY grateful for earlier this year, as is posted in a thread from months ago, called I think simply, “[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/).” I think it was by Examine.

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![Chas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chas/32/1042_2.png) [@Chas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Chas)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/25 "2006-12-15T15:46:48Z")

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Well, i’m ready to make a decision (i think!).

I would like A314…i read something about “travel size” products, but i don’t see one for A314. I’d like to avoid spending $70 on my first purchase of something i’ve never actually tried and tested, but A314 seems to be a good first purchase for me. I know there’s a money back guarantee, but to be honest, i never bother with those, so i’d like to avoid spending a large amount right away.

I also want to pick up one more product, but i’m drawn at the moment between Instant Shine and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Perhaps if someone explained a little for me the difference in applications, and how they might work with A314, it would be a little easier for me. (also are there “travel size” bottles of those?)

Sorry if i seem cheap, you just have to understand the skepticism of a newbie!

EDIT: I am a newbie…i just found the “travel size” section. I was expecting to spend about $40 on either Instant Shine or Instant Openness, so the prices there are low enough for travel size that i’m willing to try both Instant Shine and Instant Openness. I don’t , however, see A314 there. I’m guessing that’s not available in a smaller bottle, then?

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**Author:** ![Chas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chas/32/1042_2.png) [@Chas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Chas)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/26 "2006-12-15T15:56:58Z")

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Since this may help, i will try to explain what i want to begin with.

I’m not looking for a specific target girl or anything. There are a few girls that i am semi-close with, where there could be something there if i went for it. Perhaps something that could help that along would be good. But i’d also like to meet new people. I’m actually with anyone so it would be nice to have options, and just in case i’m already hopelessly locked into the “friend zone” with the aforementioned semi-close girls.

Hopefully someone could help me out, or even tell me i’m completely wrong and need a different product! Again, A314 is something i would really like to get, and then i’m considering IO and IS, in that order. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) seems useful, but i’d like some advice first before i get carried away.

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/27 "2006-12-15T15:59:21Z")

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MX102 is the spray version of A314 (half as strong, with more immediate and less lasting effects, as I recall). You can get a set of 5-ml bottles of MX102 through 105 in the Experimental Test Mixes department of the store:

[MX102 - MX 105 - Experimental A314 Mix Kit :: Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones](https://pheromonelabs.com/)

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**Author:** ![Chas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chas/32/1042_2.png) [@Chas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Chas)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/28 "2006-12-16T17:18:49Z")

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I’ve made my purchase. Thanks to being a newbie, the total cost ended up not being too bad…worth the risk in my opinion.

[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to go  
Instant Shine to go  
Instant Honesty to go  
Ammunition to go  
MX 102-MX 105 Experimental A314 Kit (thanks Carrie)  
MX 203-204 (spotted as a freebie on the store forum)

I’m still not exactly sure about the application differences between IO and IH. Any help?

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-another-newbie/1141/29 "2006-12-16T17:34:40Z")

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IO has much lighter energy, it’s social and bubbly and fun. Outgoing, chatty, not serious.

IH is more intimate, brings true feelings to the surface. It speaks from the gut. Good when you really want to get to the meat of the matter. The first few times I wore it, I got into a foul mood, haha. I guess whatever you’re repressing will come out! Some say it’s good for business negotiations, or in sales. If you’re sensitive to it like I am, you’ll want to wear it far away from your own nose.

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