# Hello... Any help appreciated!

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [July 16, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-any-help-appreciated/40096 "2010-07-16T22:32:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![masu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@masu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masu)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-any-help-appreciated/40096/1 "2010-07-16T22:32:33Z")

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Here’s my story:

I’m a 24 year old male from Canada.I’ve had some experience with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) in the past. Back in the day I recall Chikara was the big seller, but I found it didn’t help me very much. I used to use Pherlure a lot also but I’ve heard that was a scam. It smelled good though. I made a ridiculous mix one time just to get rid of all my excess pheros. I just poured the rest of my Chikara into my Pherlure bottle, mixing them, and added a bunch of Chem Set Androstadieone. People just told me they didn’t like how I smelled.

I went off pheromones for approx. 4 years, but rediscovered I still had some androstadieone in my chem set bottle, and used it one night before going out with a friend and his GF. I was astonished. About 80% of the night his girl started arguments with him out of nothing and came up to talk to me instead. When he’d try to come in, she’d tell him to leave. I honestly didn’t even attribute it to the pheros because I had lost all hope in them after my mix failed 4 years ago.

After seeing that, I’m thinking of giving mones another go. I forgot all the lingo like -none, -rone, DHIL etc… And it seems that a new company has emerged as best seller… with their Instant This and Instant That.

**Here is what I am:**

About a 6 for looks, about an 8.5-9 for body. I work out a lot, so I’m assuming my test levels are increased. I also take Tribulus as a test booster. I only masturbate one day/week, so I can get a testosterone spike. I don’t know if all the test affects natural mones at all, but I have noticed it does (no scientific proof though…)

**Here is what I need:**

1. Something to use in a classroom environment. Something that would attract girls that are 6s and 7s. These girls tend to respond to non sexual advances/flirtation, and more to intelligence. Is there anything that could help me seem more intelligent?

2. Something to use in a bar/club environment. This would be to attract 7s and 8s. Just your average mone I guess. The one that gives you an alpha male presence.

3. Something to use in a gym environment. I’m at the gym a lot, and a lot of women recognize me. I’d need something to make them a bit more open towards me, to give them that extra push to say hi and initiate convo.

4. This one is the most important. There was this girl I fell for, in a way I’d never felt about anyone. It was a rational love, one that made sense and could have been longterm. We never officially went out, but we were intimate once and professed our feelings for each other. She told me last week she wasn’t attracted to me anymore because of something stupid, so I cut off contact. I’m hoping to use this as a freeze-out and to improve myself in the meantime, but I’m willing to try again with her next year. What I’d need is a ‘love pheromone’. I’ve heard that androstadieone is the ‘love mone’ but I’ve only heard that from one site. For this, I’d need something to make myself seem more successful than before, that I can be trusted, but with a bit of sexual energy there also. This is VERY IMPORTANT, because I know I’ll only get one chance to give off my first impression again. If I OD or something, I know I’d have lost her forever. I’ve already been improving myself in every aspect of my life, I’m just using the mones for this for that extra little push, so that maybe she’d give us a shot.

Sorry for the long read, hope someone can help me out.

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-any-help-appreciated/40096/2 "2010-07-16T22:52:53Z")

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Welcome Masu-  
I can help in some of those situations,

Situation 1-  
Ammo- works well in mixed situations, and will help give you an edge when talking to ladies  
Instant Shine- softens you up and give off a happy vibe most women are attracted to  
CTTM or Instant Shine plus [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/),  
IO works well in starting conversations, and getting people to smile and say hi, you have to smile back and start talking,  
IH works to deepen and lengthen conversations, when worn with Ammo or instant shine it can help keep people talking.

Situation 2-  
gets a little more wild, as you are mixed into a group and stronger levels of pheromones can be used.  
TUTH with IO and Instant shine, “talk to me, I am happy and want to screw”  
Instant Jerk with Instant Shine or Instant Honesty - may give you an edge with dancing partners or people to talk to.

#3-  
CTTM2, or IO will start conversations if you are shy and not really into talking,  
if you are willing to smile and say Hi first, IH may work for you.

#4-  
Wow, IH to help build natural attraction through conversations.  
for the sexual side I would start with AMMO, anything stronger might push her away.

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**Author:** ![ClintX2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ClintX2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ClintX2)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-any-help-appreciated/40096/3 "2010-07-16T22:53:05Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk masu!,

Pheromones do work you just have to find a reputable company.

For classroom: Instant shine. Makes the wearer and those around him/her feel happy/good.

For bar clubs: Ammunition this gets girls attracted. When I wear it I see hair flipping, smiles and girls moving closer to me.

For the gym: (you say you want something to make girls be open to you and approach you–that’s really hard to find but lucky for you Androtics is a GREAT company) The product I would recommend is come talk to me Mix 2. When I wear this I see people opening up more to me, turning their body language towards me, smiling at me , staring at me, and I have even had people come and approach me out the blue with this one on. (Note: though YOU USUALLY DO have to approach people though- how can people blame their shortcomings on the pheromones if they sit in the corner and don’t talk to anybody?

For reconnecting with that girl I say Instant honesty: which makes the helps to form a deeper bond/connection with the people you are talking to. It makes them trust you more and increased trust/ bond sometimes leads to a relationship.

Or A314: Alpha confidence/status in a bottle. It also gives of a vibe of value that says to ladies, “I might be boyfriend material."

Hope this helps

ClintX2

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**Author:** ![masu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@masu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masu)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-any-help-appreciated/40096/4 "2010-07-16T23:02:18Z")

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Thanks a lot guys:

for reconnecting with the girl, would it be advisable to use a mix of IH and A314? Maybe a touch of AMMO as well?

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**Author:** ![masu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@masu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masu)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-any-help-appreciated/40096/5 "2010-07-16T23:09:19Z")

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Was also wondering,

1. if I buy some stuff in the upcoming month, would they have expired or a decreased effect by next summer?

2. How should I use my left over androstadieone? what is it good for exactly?

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**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-any-help-appreciated/40096/6 "2010-07-17T04:13:38Z")

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> [@masu](#):
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> Thanks a lot guys:
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> for reconnecting with the girl, would it be advisable to use a mix of IH and A314? Maybe a touch of AMMO as well?

YES that’s a GREAT mix for it. And androstadienone(A1) is a comforting [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) for the ladies. It brings about feelings of comfort and attraction. It CAN in higher doses bring about depression in a small amount of men, but I wouldn’t overly worry yourself about it, just be aware. As for what to do with it, Ktrain made an amazing thread about it, but I can’t find it ☹ hopefully another user who can find it will speak up, if not this should help at least a little as far as what to do with it if you read all the way through, really sorry I can’t find that other thread. If you have any more questions about A1, do some searches, or PM me or one of the other users that use it, I’d be happy to help, however as I know how quickly one sometimes wants answers, I must warn you that the reason I can’t just try and rewrite that old thread is that I have to wake up early tomorrow, and I won’t be able to answer your pm’s most likely until Sunday. So I suggest you pm ktrain. Best of luck, and welcome to the forums!

Flight

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**Author:** ![masu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@masu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masu)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-any-help-appreciated/40096/7 "2010-07-17T04:18:05Z")

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no problem flighty. I’m trying to reconnect with this girl NEXT YEAR. so there’s no rush at this moment. I don’t want to add those 3 together though, then also add the A1. It may have a negative effect (although I have heard it’s very hard to OD on A1 with the ladies).

I’m thinking 2 parts IH, 2 parts A314, 1 part AMMO, and maybe 1 part A1.

I still don’t know if the A1 is expired though, I’ve had it for 4 or 5 years, many hot summers.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-any-help-appreciated/40096/8 "2010-07-19T22:14:16Z")

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Welcome to Pherotalk Masu!

I loved your introduction. Especially the part where you said a new company emerged as bestseller with their instant this and instant that. Nothing is that instant but in terms of the amazing results and how quickly some of us get them it seems instant for real. 😃

The team gave you some great recommendations and advice and so here is my two cents on the matter. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), shine , instant honesty and openness are great for the other settings you described.

However, for a classroom setting to seem more intelligent, that cool , smooth , dependable older guy that knows what he is about and still very approachable I will definitely go with Instant gentleman.

Here is an interesting thread I think you should read :

> [@A314 vs Instant Gentleman: a married man in his mid-40s compares the two](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-instant-gentleman/11070):
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> Myself: Athletic, mid-40s, Married with children This is a compilation of thoughts on the differences between A314 and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). A lot of this is based not only on my experience but also on some PMs between myself and Renny. So if you like this post and decide to share the love – er, rep points, please do not forget to send Renny some too. For those of you who are not familiar with Renny he and I are about the same age. I mention this as a couple of the products can have effects that v…

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