# Hello: Can pheromones overcome shyness?

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**Created:** [November 9, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-can-pheromones-overcome-shyness/22668 "2008-11-09T00:02:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-can-pheromones-overcome-shyness/22668/2 "2008-11-09T00:17:50Z")

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Hi there Viper75. Well, shyness is the kind of thing that needs to be addressed on a number of different fronts, and pheromones won’t do it _all_ for you. There should be a sticky thread or something IMHO on the cognitive-behavioural things that one can do to get over shyness, that don’t involve pheromones. Because you will need to put in a bit of work yourself too as well.

But on the pheromonal front, you might try Instant Shine for the effects of confidence and “upbeat-ness” it has on both the wearer and those around him or her (it is a unisex product)… and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) which can get conversation flowing, but you still have to open conversation really with it. Some say that CTTM2 (come talk to me mix 2) will get more people initiating conversation with you, then again even if this does work as stated, this might become a pheromonal “crutch” that will inhibit development of proper shyness-busting skills, I dunno.

But pheromones will certainly make matters a lot easier once you get into the habit of being open and more forward in introducing yourself. And they will definitely be good when you see results and consequently get more confidence, enabling you to open more easily the next time (the “feedback loop” effect).

OK, with women in particular, you might be looking for an attraction mix. The standard one mentioned on the forum is Ammo - it is like a cologne. Have a read of the sticky threads in the men’s forum and you will see a breakdown of the various products in terms of pheromones: particularly here: [Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159)

Should you pick up some phero products, do report back to the men’s forum, and guys there can give you advice on how to apply for different contexts.

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