# Hello :d **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 1, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173 "2013-06-01T00:47:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![xXGeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c77e96/32.png) [@xXGeo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xXGeo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/1 "2013-06-01T00:47:58Z")
Hello, im a male highschool student, 15, living I’m California. I’m looking for something to make me alittle more charismatic. I want something to make a girl pay attention to me and just want to talk to me. I was thinking of getting IO but I wasn’t sure if that’ll help me out. Should I go with Instant openness? Before I did all this research I actually ordered this product called Pherazone. I’ve worn it to school a couple of times but I’ve never gotten a reaction from a girl. After I researched and took my time looking around the web I learned that what the pherazone had doesn’t really effect girls at that age group. All I want is something that’ll make me stand out out. I’m hoping that with IO it’ll be easier to talk to girls, and have more friends that are females. What should I get? ---
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/2 "2013-06-01T03:47:45Z")
yes, IO should definitely be good for this - I’d recommend [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) as well (it give a very likeable, youthful, confident vibe). They will work together very well, in fact both this products work well with pretty much everything else. And yes again, at your age you need to be VERY careful with products rich in androstenone and/or androsterone - not only girls your age are not too responsive to those (in fact, it can repel them), but also you’d struggle to be congruent and in tune with those pheromones. It’s much better to use something that enhances and highlights some qualities you possess, rather that something that counteracts who you are. Tell us more about yourself! Your personality, social background, strength and difficulties. Easier to accurately advise having some info. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/3 "2013-06-01T05:47:32Z")
I suggest you read the thread [The Snook’s big book o’ pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879) Pay attention to the bit on teenagers, it should be helpful to you. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Honesty and/or Instant Shine will all work in slightly different ways to help you with your goal. ---
**Author:** ![xXGeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c77e96/32.png) [@xXGeo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xXGeo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 1:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/4 "2013-06-01T13:09:20Z")
I would rate myself an 8 out of 10 lol. I’m almost always serious, I’ve been told that I look intimidating. I feel like people are scared to come up to me and have a conversation with me. Honestly though, once you get to know me I’m really fun. I have alot of friends, I would like to have more friends that are females. That’s the only thing I have a problem with. I wished I could seem more approachable. Also, it’s tough for me to keep friends around. I feel as if maybe I seemed more approachable and charismatic I would have alot more friends that’s are girls. I’m actually pretty popular, I know the majority of the school. ---
**Author:** ![xXGeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c77e96/32.png) [@xXGeo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xXGeo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/5 "2013-06-01T13:52:46Z")
> [@Marihino](#): > > yes, IO should definitely be good for this - I’d recommend Instant Shine as well (it give a very likeable, youthful, confident vibe). They will work together very well, in fact both this products work well with pretty much everything else. > And yes again, at your age you need to be VERY careful with products rich in androstenone and/or androsterone - not only girls your age are not too responsive to those (in fact, it can repel them), but also you’d struggle to be congruent and in tune with those pheromones. It’s much better to use something that enhances and highlights some qualities you possess, rather that something that counteracts who you are. > > Tell us more about yourself! Your personality, social background, strength and difficulties. Easier to accurately advise having some info. I would rate myself an 8 out of 10 lol. I’m almost always serious, I’ve been told that I look intimidating. I feel like people are scared to come up to me and have a conversation with me. Honestly though, once you get to know me I’m really fun. I have alot of friends, I would like to have more friends that are females. That’s the only thing I have a problem with. I wished I could seem more approachable. Also, it’s tough for me to keep friends around. I feel as if maybe I seemed more approachable and charismatic I would have alot more friends that’s are girls. I’m actually pretty popular, I know the majority of the school. ---
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/6 "2013-06-02T00:46:20Z")
sounds like the IO + IS combo would be perfect then. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 11:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/7 "2013-06-02T11:54:51Z")
Hi, Geo! Welcome! You are right on track with IO. I like the IS suggestion too, IS gives more of a cheery, uplifting vibe. If you are looking to deepen friendships and make more of a connection with people, Instant Honesty is really good for that. People have found good results with using a combination of Instant Honesty and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Let us know if you have any more questions, and please tell us about your experiences! ---
**Author:** ![xXGeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c77e96/32.png) [@xXGeo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xXGeo)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/8 "2013-06-03T19:23:21Z")
> [@Marihino](#): > > sounds like the IO + IS combo would be perfect then. How about P102? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/9 "2013-06-03T19:36:28Z")
p102 will make people notice you more. You’ll get more stares and glances. The type of attention this gets you will be dependent on what other pheros you are wearing as well as your attitude and demeanor. Like, if you are in a bad mood and wearing p102, more people will notice you are in a bad mood and they will probably assume you are not a nice guy (I made this mistake by wearing p102 when I was feeling stressed). But if you are acting kind and friendly and wearing social pheros, then people will notice that friendliness even more. P102 is a very “LOOK AT ME!” phero. You have to decide what they will see once they are looking. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/10 "2013-06-04T01:55:38Z")
p102 might give you different reactions. A self-effect of it on me, is it makes me quite tired. I love it for that as I have sleep issues. ---
**Author:** ![xXGeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c77e96/32.png) [@xXGeo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xXGeo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/11 "2013-06-04T15:45:38Z")
Would it be okay to mix IS + IO + P102 ? Should I just purchase one product? What do you guys recommend? Do these work effectively by themselves? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/12 "2013-06-04T15:47:24Z")
It absolutely would! Sounds like you’d be seen as the happy, chatty, center of attention. That’s a good place to be. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/13 "2013-06-04T16:19:27Z")
To give yourself the best chance of success, think about just IO. Because there’s shipping anyway, think about 2 IO. If you use enough, you’re very likely to see hits you notice. A common I O oversight is not using enough. Because of the economy, quality androstenol got expensive. People used to use much more than they do now. However, it’s very useful. You’ll be tempted to only use 1-3 sprays. Be ready for 4-5. Use what you need to see results. There’s probably about 50 mcg ANOL in 5 sprays. If you hit that and don’t get results, let us know. You’ll also get a healthy dose of BNOL at five sprays, and that will help with bonding. Don’t worry about it being chatty. The more women talk, the better you are. It’s when they don’t talk you’ll worry. Guy’s constantly underrate IO. Just use enough. You can’t really OD. **I have never seen a person unresponsive to I O.** IShine gets about 60% hits. I H usually works, but people miss subtle hits. You can’t miss I O. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/14 "2013-06-04T16:46:06Z")
If P102 makes one tired, (just got a sample to-go bottle yet unopened) then combining it with IS will compound your fatigue. IS is good for a while but many users find that it increases fatigue after an hour or two. I’ve experienced the same effect. So P102 and IS might be good for a time-limited display but expect to crash. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/15 "2013-06-04T19:28:38Z")
I’ve never experienced tiredness with p102 ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/16 "2013-06-05T02:02:09Z")
> [@Miss\_Dragon](#): > > I’ve never experienced tiredness with p102 Search around, some of us it all but knocks out, which I’m personally quite happy about. ---
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/17 "2013-06-05T04:05:10Z")
I haven’t tried P102, but I do like the IO appraisals - some of my best hits (and I mean proper taking-things-to-another-level hits, not just a stare or hair flicking) happened when I wore a lot of IO together with my usual A314 + [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)/AE combo, which on it’s own can be not approachable enough. ---
**Author:** ![xXGeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c77e96/32.png) [@xXGeo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xXGeo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/18 "2013-06-06T16:25:50Z")
> [@Marihino](#): > > I haven’t tried P102, but I do like the IO appraisals - some of my best hits (and I mean proper taking-things-to-another-level hits, not just a stare or hair flicking) happened when I wore a lot of IO together with my usual A314 + Ammo/AE combo, which on it’s own can be not approachable enough. I’ve made up my mind and decided that I’m going to purchase IO. Thank you all for helping me out with my decision you guys have been very helpful! 🙂 Now …how do I recieve that GC ? O\_o ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/19 "2013-06-06T16:29:52Z")
The GC will probably be issued within the next few days. The admins have been busy with a lot of work, so they are a little behind in issuing GCs. If you don’t get it by next week, I’d suggest sending a private message or email to Mickaelia. ---
**Author:** ![xXGeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c77e96/32.png) [@xXGeo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xXGeo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173/20 "2013-06-06T16:34:33Z")
> [@Miss\_Dragon](#): > > The GC will probably be issued within the next few days. The admins have been busy with a lot of work, so they are a little behind in issuing GCs. If you don’t get it by next week, I’d suggest sending a private message or email to Mickaelia. Okay 🙂 no problem, Ill just wait and see. Do you think I should buy IO AND IS ? Or should I just stick with buying one at a time for now (I’m kinda new to all this) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-d/59173.md?page=2)