# Hello... Did I choose the right products **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [July 26, 2007, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809 "2007-07-26T04:33:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ShadowX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/shadowx/32/2327_2.png) [@ShadowX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ShadowX)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/1 "2007-07-26T04:33:07Z")
Hello, First, I’d like to apologize for my not-so-perfect-english, you may find mistakes here and there. This is my first post in here but I’ve been reading your posts from time to time for a couple of days. I believe it is time for me to do some shopping. However, after the many posts that I have read, I have few questions, if you don’t mind. 1- I read that I need to cover up some pheros, such as Turn up the heat, IS and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), because of their stinky smell. My question is how to cover them up? Let us say I sprayed some pheromone once on each wrist and one on neck, do I apply the cologne on those places too or will that mask the pheros? 2- Could you please check if I have chosen the right products as my first buy? \*I’m going to buy the travel size to try them out. Oh, In case it is important, I’m 20 years old middle eastern, living in Canada(Quebec…anyone? 🙂 ). 2.1 Instant Openness Vs. Instant Honesty: I’m really lost between these two. Openness could help me break the ice, which is helpful to me because when I’m with female friends, I always dig up for interesting conversation. However, I’m thinking about Instant Honesty because it makes conversations go to the “deeper level”, where people are very comfortable with each other and when people are comfortable with each other, they talk about stuff that they don’t normally talk about with other people. Thus, talking about “secret” stuff is even better than simply breaking the ice, isn’t it? 2.2(Instant Shine) - I kind of have a low self-esteem because of my physical appearance, will “Instant Shine” boost-up a bit my confidence? Also, how will it affect those, who are around me? 2.3 Instant Female Magic Vs. Turn Up the Heat - I read in my many posts that phero-amateurs, like me, should stay away from Turn Up The Heat for the moment. However, I like to have a sexual attention from women. For example, today, I went to see the optician, the lady who works there is absolutly attractive, I’m 100% positive that nothing will happen between us (she is like 5 years older than I am and afterall, why would she go after me when there are ton of guys of her age in the city). However, I like the feeling of being sexually attractive to others, this is why I want TUTH. So If I should really avoid it for the moment, will Instant Female Magic do the job, or is it Ammo that does it? **So to conclude 2.3** , which of these: Instant female Magic, Turn up the Heat or Ammo, that could make females (mostly my friends) sexually attracted to me? Sorry for the really long post!! The thing is I bought a pheromone called Arouse-Rx from ebay, before discovering this site and I’m not satisfied with the result; because there is no result!!! I’m really not seeing any effect; im trying to have a refund but the seller is insisting that I’m using it wrong (he really believes in his product) so I really want to have the results I’m looking for from these pheros to change my ideas about pheromones in general (see the results is much better than reading about it) Thank you and sorry again for the long post!! ---
**Author:** ![ShadowX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/shadowx/32/2327_2.png) [@ShadowX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ShadowX)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/2 "2007-07-26T04:35:28Z")
Hello..did I choose the right products? Hello, First, I’d like to apologize for my not-so-perfect-english, you may find mistakes here and there. This is my first post in here but I’ve been reading your posts from time to time for a couple of days. I believe it is time for me to do some shopping. However, after the many posts that I have read, I have few questions, if you don’t mind. 1- I read that I need to cover up some pheros, such as Turn up the heat, IS and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), because of their stinky smell. My question is how to cover them up? Let us say I sprayed some pheromone once on each wrist and one on neck, do I apply the cologne on those places too or will that mask the pheros? 2- Could you please check if I have chosen the right products as my first buy? \*I’m going to buy the travel size to try them out. Oh, In case it is important, I’m 20 years old middle eastern, living in Canada(Quebec…anyone? 🙂 ). 2.1 Instant Openness Vs. Instant Honesty: I’m really lost between these two. Openness could help me break the ice, which is helpful to me because when I’m with female friends, I always dig up for interesting conversation. However, I’m thinking about Instant Honesty because it makes conversations go to the “deeper level”, where people are very comfortable with each other and when people are comfortable with each other, they talk about stuff that they don’t normally talk about with other people. Thus, talking about “secret” stuff is even better than simply breaking the ice, isn’t it? 2.2(Instant Shine) - I kind of have a low self-esteem because of my physical appearance, will “Instant Shine” boost-up a bit my confidence? Also, how will it affect those, who are around me? 2.3 Instant Female Magic Vs. Turn Up the Heat - I read in my many posts that phero-amateurs, like me, should stay away from TUTH for the moment. However, I like to have a sexual attention from women. For example, today, I went to see the optician, the lady who works there is absolutly attractive, I’m 100% positive that nothing will happen between us (she is like 5 years older than I am and afterall, why would she go after me when there are ton of guys of her age in the city). However, I like the feeling of being sexually attractive to others, this is why I want TUTH. So If I should really avoid it for the moment, will Instant Female Magic do the job, or is it Ammo that does it? **So to conclude 2.3** , which of these: Instant female Magic, Turn up the Heat or Ammo, that could make females (mostly my friends) sexually attracted to me? Sorry for the really long post!! The thing is I bought a pheromone called Arouse-Rx from ebay, before discovering this site and I’m not satisfied with the result; because there is no result!!! I’m really not seeing any effect; im trying to have a refund but the seller is insisting that I’m using it wrong (he really believes in his product) so I really want to have the results I’m looking for from these pheros to change my ideas about pheromones in general (see the results is much better than reading about it) Thank you and sorry again for the long post!! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/3 "2007-07-26T10:15:13Z")
> [@ShadowX](#): > > Hello, > First, I’d like to apologize for my not-so-perfect-english, you may find mistakes here and there. > This is my first post in here but I’ve been reading your posts from time to time for a couple of days. I believe it is time for me to do some shopping. > However, after the many posts that I have read, I have few questions, if you don’t mind. > > 1- I read that I need to cover up some pheros, such as Turn up the heat, IS and Instant Female Magic, because of their stinky smell. My question is how to cover them up? Let us say I sprayed some pheromone once on each wrist and one on neck, do I apply the cologne on those places too or will that mask the pheros? > > 2- Could you please check if I have chosen the right products as my first buy? \*I’m going to buy the travel size to try them out. Oh, In case it is important, I’m 20 years old middle eastern, living in Canada(Quebec…anyone? 🙂 ). > > 2.1 Instant Openness Vs. Instant Honesty: I’m really lost between these two. Openness could help me break the ice, which is helpful to me because when I’m with female friends, I always dig up for interesting conversation. However, I’m thinking about Instant Honesty because it makes conversations go to the “deeper level”, where people are very comfortable with each other and when people are comfortable with each other, they talk about stuff that they don’t normally talk about with other people. Thus, talking about “secret” stuff is even better than simply breaking the ice, isn’t it? > > 2.2(Instant Shine) - I kind of have a low self-esteem because of my physical appearance, will “Instant Shine” boost-up a bit my confidence? Also, how will it affect those, who are around me? > > 2.3 Instant Female Magic Vs. Turn Up the Heat - I read in my many posts that phero-amateurs, like me, should stay away from Turn Up The Heat for the moment. However, I like to have a sexual attention from women. For example, today, I went to see the optician, the lady who works there is absolutly attractive, I’m 100% positive that nothing will happen between us (she is like 5 years older than I am and afterall, why would she go after me when there are ton of guys of her age in the city). However, I like the feeling of being sexually attractive to others, this is why I want TUTH. So If I should really avoid it for the moment, will Instant Female Magic do the job, or is it Ammo that does it? > **So to conclude 2.3** , which of these: Instant female Magic, Turn up the Heat or Ammo, that could make females (mostly my friends) sexually attracted to me? > > Sorry for the really long post!! The thing is I bought a pheromone called Arouse-Rx from ebay, before discovering this site and I’m not satisfied with the result; because there is no result!!! I’m really not seeing any effect; im trying to have a refund but the seller is insisting that I’m using it wrong (he really believes in his product) so I really want to have the results I’m looking for from these pheros to change my ideas about pheromones in general (see the results is much better than reading about it) > > Thank you and sorry again for the long post!! 1 The above products you have mentioned come with a built in cover scent but some people dont like the scent of neroli. If you dont like it you can cover with whatever you normally use and you get spray right on top of where you sprayed your mones. Its always good to let the mones dry down for about 5 minutes before applying another colonge over them. 2 You didnt tell us exactly what it is your ordering but I will assume its all of the products you have mentioned. Its a good order. Go easy on the TUTH and I would consider [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) for a more everyday kind of product. Tuth is best in situations were you are planning on being intimate its not your everyday wear to work product. Ammo gives off a attractive sexy vibe so it may be best to start with. 2.1 IO and IH both excellant products. Go with the IH and get the IO later if you like it. Use IH away from face unless you want to start blurting out your own secrets. 2.2 Instant shine should give you a uplifting happy feeling. Alot of the products above will give you a boost of confidence. I would go with a mix of shine and Ammo for that. 2.3 IFM = Calm relaxed open TUTH = hot sexy needy. If you choose TUTH then remember to start with just a tiny bit. Half a spray and see how it works out then work up slowly. Once you see results dont up the dose much from there. Read the section on tuth in the store page for more good info on how to make tuth work for you. I have never used arouse-rx. How exactly are you using it and maybe we can tell you if the seller is blowing smoke or not. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![stereodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@stereodan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stereodan)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/4 "2007-07-26T14:14:30Z")
Hi there! Welcome. I had the same qualms when selecting pheromones. Hopefully I can clear some things up for you. > [@](#): > > 1- I read that I need to cover up some pheros, such as Turn up the heat, IS and Instant Female Magic, because of their stinky smell. My question is how to cover them up? Let us say I sprayed some pheromone once on each wrist and one on neck, do I apply the cologne on those places too or will that mask the pheros? Turn up the Heat comes with a cologne solution already. But yes, IFM will need a cover scent, however it does already come in a light Neroli scent. One spritz of real cologne near the same place should do it. Masking pheros is difficult, unless you stink with cologne scent so much people don’t want to breathe around you. > [@](#): > > 2.1 Instant Openness Vs. Instant Honesty: I’m really lost between these two. Openness could help me break the ice, which is helpful to me because when I’m with female friends, I always dig up for interesting conversation. However, I’m thinking about Instant Honesty because it makes conversations go to the “deeper level”, where people are very comfortable with each other and when people are comfortable with each other, they talk about stuff that they don’t normally talk about with other people. Thus, talking about “secret” stuff is even better than simply breaking the ice, isn’t it? This depends on who you will be talking to while wearing it. Will you be meeting new women mostly? Or do you want to take things to another level with people with which you are already on speaking terms? Openness for the former, Honesty for the latter. > [@](#): > > 2.2(Instant Shine) - I kind of have a low self-esteem because of my physical appearance, will “Instant Shine” boost-up a bit my confidence? Also, how will it affect those, who are around me? Yes, that is one of Shine’s primary functions. It gives other people the same boost, and since it radiates from you they associate your character with their mood change. > [@](#): > > 2.3 Instant Female Magic Vs. Turn Up the Heat - I read in my many posts that phero-amateurs, like me, should stay away from Turn Up The Heat for the moment. However, I like to have a sexual attention from women. For example, today, I went to see the optician, the lady who works there is absolutly attractive, I’m 100% positive that nothing will happen between us (she is like 5 years older than I am and afterall, why would she go after me when there are ton of guys of her age in the city). However, I like the feeling of being sexually attractive to others, this is why I want Turn Up The Heat. So If I should really avoid it for the moment, will Instant Female Magic do the job, or is it Ammo that does it? > So to conclude 2.3, which of these: Instant female Magic, Turn up the Heat or Ammo, that could make females (mostly my friends) sexually attracted to me? Turn up the Heat would be my last recommendation for pheromones unless you are already seeing someone open to a physical relationship. Also, TUTH is very easy to OD on and can turn women off if applied too much, or if the woman has no desire for physical interaction. There are plenty of other pheros that act as an attractant, Ammo would be my recommendation to you, or [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). Ammo’s new version, from what I’ve read (done a lot of that lately) has a bit of Instant Shine’s formula and takes the edge off the androstanone in it. > [@](#): > > 2- Could you please check if I have chosen the right products as my first buy? \*I’m going to buy the travel size to try them out. Oh, In case it is important, I’m 20 years old middle eastern, living in Canada(Quebec…anyone? ). Sure…but you’ve gotta say which products you plan on buying! All of the ones you’ve mentioned?! Quite a lot… From what I’ve read my recommendations to you would be Ammo, Instant Shine, and Instant Honesty. Perhaps Instant Female Magic as well. If you want to go further, A314 might help with the confidence issue, but experiment with the to-go bottles of the aforementioned products before you delve into that. > [@](#): > > Sorry for the really long post! No problem. > [@](#): > > sorry again for the long post!! No, really, it’s totally cool. Good luck and I hope I was helpful. ---
**Author:** ![UltraSkeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f19dbf/32.png) [@UltraSkeptic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UltraSkeptic)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/5 "2007-07-26T14:31:03Z")
> [@ShadowX](#): > > I like to have a sexual attention from women. For example, today, I went to see the optician, the lady who works there is absolutly attractive, _I’m 100% positive that nothing will happen_ between us (she is like 5 years older than I am and afterall, why would she go after me when there are ton of guys of her age in the city). You need to do some serious work on your “inner game”. Google “seduction”, you’ll find a ton of free info. Chics have a radar for negative inner game that pheros will not override. ---
**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/6 "2007-07-26T16:31:48Z")
Hi Shadow! Pretty much what Dan said! Turn up the heat is a great product for when you have already broken the ice and want the relationship to get more physical 😉 Used appropriately it seems to have some great effects. However, if you use it too early it can frighten off your target lady. If you overuse it, or use it in the wrong setting it can also cause some competitive type behaviour in other men and irritate some women. You wouldn’t need to use much of it either because as you are 20, you are still producing quite a high level of your own pheros. Ammo might be a better bet for all-round usefulness. It has that sexy edge, without being intimidating so you can use it pretty much anywhere. 🙂 Best May ---
**Author:** ![ShadowX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/shadowx/32/2327_2.png) [@ShadowX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ShadowX)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/7 "2007-07-27T07:26:35Z")
Thanks for your replies 🙂 I’m going to make a quick reply for the moment as its 3:20am and I have to sleep. All of your answers are helpful, but I’m going to elaborate 2morrow. Currently, I’m lost between Instant female magic and instant honesty. I will give you the story 2morrow but in short, I’m wondering which of these products (Instant honesty/instant female magic or another that I’m not aware of) increases the chance of making a girl wanting to be real close to me (sleep on my shoulder, cuddling, etc.) I assume your answer will be I.F.Magic but I would like to be sure. I understand that phermonoes are not magic spells but I’m wondering which may help increase the chances. ---
**Author:** ![Quicksilver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quicksilver/32/1328_2.png) [@Quicksilver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quicksilver)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 7:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/8 "2007-07-27T07:54:05Z")
> [@ShadowX](#): > > I’m wondering which of these products (Instant honesty/instant female magic or another that I’m not aware of) increases the chance of making a girl wanting to be real close to me (sleep on my shoulder, cuddling, etc.) I assume your answer will be I.F.Magic but I would like to be sure. From what I’ve read, be aware that [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) should be called “Instant Sibling” it does not necessarily induce cuddling leading to nookie. You need to twist it with Ammo or Turn Up The Heat or something with -none, P79, etc. Should you try to escalate kino with a person who does not expect it because their IFM addled mind is telling them you’re a safe teddy bear, be prepared for the startled reaction you’ll get. In other words, IFM = affection… Ammo/TUTH = sexual interest Cheers, 🆒 Quicksilver ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/9 "2007-07-27T11:43:05Z")
> [@stereodan](#): > > Ammo’s new version, from what I’ve read (done a lot of that lately) has a bit of Instant Shine’s formula and takes the edge off the androstanone in it. It doesn’t have androstanone in it actually. It has androstenone, that’s different.. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/10 "2007-07-28T19:03:03Z")
Welcome to the forum! Your gift cert has been sent 🙂 ENJOY!!! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/11 "2007-07-28T19:14:56Z")
Your gift cert has been sent 🙂 ENJOY! ---
**Author:** ![ShadowX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/shadowx/32/2327_2.png) [@ShadowX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ShadowX)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/12 "2007-08-12T23:09:47Z")
Hey, you guys probably forgot about me but I must keep my promise to answer you back (even though as I said, you probably forgot about me already 🙂). I must admit that it took me too long to answer but I was busy during the first week preparing for an exam that is VERY important. As for the second week, it really wasn’t my week, I was far from being in a good mood so I wasn’t in the mood of typing. However, I did order! I completed my order on the 7th of August. I might recieve it this week as I upgraded the shipping method. Anyways, I ordered Ammo, Instant Oppenness and Instant Honesty. I must say that I’m kind of unsatisfied with my selection. I regret for not ordering [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) instead of Instant Honesty; I made the swapping at the last minute. The reason why I didn’t go for Instant female magic is because of the possible depression (I’m depressed enough) that may happen if I mis-use it so I thought I’d buy it on my second order when I’m more experienced with how to apply them. In my previous post, I said and I quote: “I will give you the story 2morrow but in short, I’m wondering which of these products (Instant honesty/instant female magic or another that I’m not aware of) increases the chance of making a girl wanting to be real close to me”. Well the story is that I was really close with 2 female friends; not sexually but friendship. We used to do some cuddling, I used to play with their hair, etc. but it’s disappearing; especially with one of them(let’s call her #1), it’s almost non-existent anymore; not sure why. Although, during these 2 weeks where I’ve been absent in here, things got better with one of them (girl #2). I miss those moments thats why I was wondering which phero could boost up the chances. Although now I know thanks to Tisha and QuickSilver that one of the combos are ammo+instant female magic. It’s funny (in a very sarcastic way) how I didn’t even buy Instant Female Magic even though it is what I need. So, even though I regret for not buying IFM instead of Instant Honesty, I keep looking at the bright side: IH can positivley affect both genders while IFM positivley affect females only. After all, I’m seeking for a social life improvment too, not just sexually, so males are in my target list too. Thanks again for your help and of course Jasmin for the gift certificate 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-did-i-choose-the-right-products/4809/13 "2007-08-16T14:40:28Z")
Nope, ShadowX, we didn’t forget you! 😃