# Hello everybody **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [September 6, 2008, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932 "2008-09-06T01:57:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KevinSL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9fc29f/32.png) [@KevinSL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KevinSL)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/1 "2008-09-06T01:57:54Z")
Hey ya all lovely people out there. Now what’s going on here? Pheromones? What was I thinking? I’ve tried it and I’m not happy but I’m still tryin… why not give it a second chance? How can I fix this? Here is how it all went down. I’m 23 single from bristol and I get along with the people around me pretty well. I got lots of eye contact, smiles and conversations from the ladies 😉 (well everyone, not only the ladies), lots of kisses and good evening life 😃 . But all those are history when I used Icebreaker pheromone colonge. The first day I wore Icebreaker to work, I got this feedback from my collegues - “are you wearing women’s colonge?” Then people do not respond to me like they used to be anymore, I get more rejections, sitting alone with just my best friend at the clubs (no more ladies joining into our conversation ☹ ), even tips got less!!! (I work as a waiter/bartender). I watch Discovery Channel and know a bit about human sexual chemistry and how they communicate and affect us. I thought I could give it a try. Then I did a google search on where pheromones are available for sale. I read a couple of site reviewing top rated pheromones. I decided to give icebreaker a go. After 3 weeks using it, I can conclude that pheromones are really working - with negative effect that is!!! Has it backfired? I’m not the people’s person anymore. My life is screwed by icebreaker. I think some companies pay people to write a good review about their products or/and hosted different sites to biasly review their product. Plus independent people are paid a commision if they direct customers to buy their product.😠 What happened? 😕 Does it produce ‘repellant’ pheromones when [synthetic pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) are reacted with the existing natural pheromones? Or does it react with some amino acid that I’m consuming for my workout? So I ended up here, the best and only pheromones forum discussion board seeking help from all ya experienced people and pheromones guru out there hoping someone will look into this and HELP 😮 . For your info, the processed amino acid I consumed are leucine, isoleucine and valine mostly the branch chain type. I also consumed conjugated linoleic acid. I tried to looked into the possible reaction of these substance with the pheromones but is confused by the complicated benzene rings and their functional groups of ketone and aldehyde.😕 (I’m no organic chemistry person.) Also for additional info, before I use Icebreaker, I was using Attitude by Giorgio Armani and Grey by Hugo Boss before Attitude. They have been looking after my social life well, then came icebreaker 😠 . I also hope if someone can find out if it is icebreaker but not the pheromones fault, I need to try different brand with real juice! Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/2 "2008-09-06T02:03:35Z")
hello and welcome to the forum. while you will probably find a vast amount of opinions regarding [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) use here, you have found perhaps the most legitimate and useful company and forum for pheromone use and discussions about them. one nice thing about the negative effect you are noticing is that, _at least they do work!_ you will find both mens and ladies discussion forums here as well as finding men and ladies that use both products intended for men and women. i have used copulins for example, and ladies might use IFM. it takes quite a bit of testing to find any particular product and dose that will suit your own situation and body chemistry. what demographic are you targetting? are you caucasian or ?? are you trying to give the impression that you are a ladies man or perhaps just a generally approachable guy? ---
**Author:** ![Tenant](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tenant/32/1668_2.png) [@Tenant](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tenant)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/3 "2008-09-06T02:09:05Z")
I don’t think the icebreaker should be reacting with your workout supplement. [Pheromones](https://a314.com/) basically sit on the skin and then emanate from there. I think none can be absorbed leading to ODs with subsequent reapplications, but I don’t think it would be reacting with the substances in the workout supplement. For one, the workout supplement is ingested, while none would be absorbed through the skin, different pathways there. As for product suggestions, it sounds like before Icebreaker, you were doing well. So what exactly would you like a pheromone edge with? Attraction? Or something a little closer to the bedroom? ---
**Author:** ![K24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k24/32/1513_2.png) [@K24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K24)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/4 "2008-09-06T02:09:33Z")
Hey there and welcome to the forum. Icebreaker was a well-known pheromones, sort of like pherlure, so it gets mixed feedback. the products here are more effective in terms of giving results, and most of them smell great too so you don’t even have to cover them with a cologne. i suggest you start out with the togo bottles and test each one individually to get some ideas on how to use them correctly. give us a bit more details on what you wanna achieve from pheromones, i.e. any specific goals?? let us know, have fun. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/5 "2008-09-06T02:12:21Z")
Hello KevinSL, Great to have you in Pherotalk so welcome on board 🙂 So i see you are keen on trying pheros after trying other pheros out there, good choice there 🙂 Well sorry to hear about your Icebreaker, i’m sorry to say that you have been scamed there & you are not alone there, i was scamed too by Pherlure. You must have heard about Pherlure right? But thank goodness i found this forum & i have good results with the pheros here 🙂 Ok for what i see from your situation there, i can suggest AMMO for sexual attraction, Instant Shine for a solid boost of confidence & make people feel comfortable with you & [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) for a smoother & easier conversation 🙂 I leave it to you to decide there & i hope i was able to help you there 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/6 "2008-09-06T03:27:59Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 You really want to know what happened. You didnt do your homework or you would have known that icebreaker is crap. > [@](#): > > read a couple of site reviewing top rated pheromones. I decided to give icebreaker a go. After 3 weeks using it, I can conclude that pheromones are really working - with negative effect that is!!! Has it backfired? I’m not the people’s person anymore. My life is screwed by icebreaker. I think some companies pay people to write a good review about their products or/and hosted different sites to biasly review their product. Plus independent people are paid a commision if they direct customers to buy their product.😠 Your right they do, those sites your referring to are called affiliate links. They get commisions when you hit the little link on the site and buy a product. You need to buy only from reliable companies who have real live people who give feedback. This forum belongs to one of those companies. Androtics direct or smartmones. They dont just hand you a bottle and say “here you go spray it on and the world will be in the palm of your hand.” There is alot more to it. I suggest you read all the stickies in the forum starting with the ones below in my signature. As far as your life being screwed up. Mones wash off hun once they do its all you. > [@](#): > > For your info, the processed amino acid I consumed are leucine, isoleucine and valine mostly the branch chain type. I also consumed conjugated linoleic acid. I tried to looked into the possible reaction of these substance with the pheromones but is confused by the complicated benzene rings and their functional groups of ketone and aldehyde.😕 (I’m no organic chemistry person.) Synthetic mones like icebreaker do not enter the blood stream. You inhale them they enter the brain and reach your neurotransmitters but your brain has something called the blood barrier which means the neurotransmiters send a signal but the mone never enters the blood stream. So the amino acids you consumed will not interact with the pheromones you use. Now the substances you ingested can however have a effect on your neurotransmitters but those effects will disapate when you stop taking them and they are natural substances made by the body anyways so they will not harm you if taken as directed. > [@](#): > > I also hope if someone can find out if it is icebreaker but not the pheromones fault, I need to try different brand with real juice! There is something called the OD effect with certain mones. Turn your pop up blocker off and point your mouse here \>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\> OD Its the ghost effect from to high a dose of anone. Your 23, you sound realitively fit and healthy. You dont need that much anone. The other factor which people do not understand is that the products here are dosed. For example… TUTH is a high anone product. But every single spray contains 2.5 mcg’s of anone because these products are dosed. I know this number is off a little but that would mean that it has a total of 500 MCG’s of total anone in it. Icebreaker is not dosed. I am not sure the total mone content without looking it up but for the sake of the example lets say it has 500 MCG of total anone in it like TUTH does. It has other mones but lets just explain with the anone for now. When you spray icebreaker your probably getting a different dose each time. Not a good thing with anone products. So that being said, the first thing you need to do is understand what mones can do and what they cant. Causes those hyped up sales sites have mislead you. Read the stickies below in my signature, then read the stickies in each forum sections to get a good feel for what mones are and what they do. Then come on back up here and post what effects your looking for from mones in this thread and I will send you a GC to the smartmones store. We are also all here for you in the forum to help you get your products working and anwser any questions you may have. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 8:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/7 "2008-09-06T08:22:00Z")
shes right. almost all the time. any way. i know how it feels bud. i ordered tuth for the first time, even though it said not too. it was because i thougt i could just spray this on and do it with every hot chick in school. nope, didnt do JACK. not even now, i dont use it. i think it was a waste of money for me, unless i can find a way to use it. also, yes do you homework. yeah its gay doing hw but if you catch on, it can be very interesting. like i find psychology very interesting and want to go to college for it. but i cant just say i am a psychologist and get clients and counsel them. i have to do homework to earn the right to do that. any questions? ask the first person to reply to your thread, the magnificant TISHA. lol you are so useful! ---
**Author:** ![KevinSL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9fc29f/32.png) [@KevinSL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KevinSL)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/8 "2008-09-12T23:53:19Z")
Thanks a lot for all the great replies 🙂 . > [@](#): > > Read the stickies below in my signature, then read the stickies in each forum sections to get a good feel for what pheromones are and what they do. That is a list of very helpful tips, but I just don’t know they really do the job as they are described. As tfer15 was saying… > [@](#): > > any way. i know how it feels bud. i ordered Turn Up The Heat for the first time, even though it said not too. it was because i thougt i could just spray this on and do it with every hot chick in school. nope, didnt do JACK. not even now, i dont use it. i think it was a waste of money for me, unless i can find a way to use it. I definitely don’t want to spend a fortune on something that doesn’t work as you said it -waste of money. I guess that the pheromones just have different effects on different people right? As for Icebreaker, I stopped using it for about a week now and switch back to my usual colonge and people reconise its good smell and things are getting back to usual state - especially no one complain about ‘girlie colonge’. For the OD effect, Icebreaker instructed that I should put on 2 to 3 spray, instead of that, I only put on 1 to 2 sprays just to make these expensive liquid last longer. Do you think that adding foreign pheromones to my skins with existing natural pheromones may cause the overdose effect? Or in this case, should I be wearing any pheromones at all? But you see, i’m tired of my life stucking at this stage, being an average guy in a pool of common friends which come and go and technically still being single which is very worrying 😮 . I graduated a single and should be looking for something long term. About my target, there is this girl at work which I want to pick up and build a long term relationship (could be marriage) with her. Ocassionally we talk about our future career plans and joke about if we can be a couple everytime we see a wedding going on 🙄 . I was thinking, my god she is the one. Maybe she likes me too. But since we work in a different department, little conversation is possible only when our job meets (maybe 5 mins longest). However, it makes me hard to approach her because she keep putting up this ‘force repulsive field’ when ever i try to go near her when we are outside work. She would look away and pretend I’m not there when walk towards her. Sometimes when we walk pass each other and I say hello, there would be no reply back. She might think i’m a wussy loser or something? :o So here I am on my quest to look for that something that would make her pay more attention on me in order for me to do my moves. Which pheromones would be good for this situation? ---
**Author:** ![KevinSL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9fc29f/32.png) [@KevinSL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KevinSL)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/9 "2008-09-13T00:37:49Z")
Oh and also, I found this while doing some homework on pheromones. link removed Has anyone try this? The website looks good but there are no order button so no purchase can be made. I’m begining to think that it is another scam. The table of data looks good. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/e/e78109f6f53d8ce8bd1d086d2ff8ce0be780e16a.gif) **Please be aware that REAL Human Grade Sex Pheromones are very expensive to manufacture. Don’t be fooled by cheap imitations or fake products with no pheromones at all! Every bottle of Arouse-Rx comes with a laboratory statement of GUARANTEED PURITY so you can rest assured that you are getting THE REAL THING!** It is only on sale from a seller on ebay at a much lower price. No other site selling them. By the way, they also have gay pheromones, i mean wtf? Does nature have same sex attraction chemistry? If so, which one? Tha contain of the pheromones type displayed on the site for both gay and straight men are the same. It is just the different propotions of mixture. Does this mean if we put on the right amount of straight pheromones that is similar to the gay pheromones, will we be accidentally attract the same sex? It is very unnatural. What next? Intra-species [attraction pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/)? Back in 2001 i read that we can find a large amount of human sexual pheromones in pig’s saliva. Is that true? What is going on now?😕 ---
**Author:** ![Tenant](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tenant/32/1668_2.png) [@Tenant](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tenant)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/10 "2008-09-13T00:57:55Z")
Sounds like you might be reading too much into it. But also consider that the bitch shield you talk about, that’s just a safety measure that women take as a response to the expectations imposed by society. It does not necessarily mean she likes or does not like you if she puts up the bitch shield. It’s de facto, inevitable. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/11 "2008-09-13T01:14:02Z")
Its a affiliate site. The person who runs it gets a commission every time you buy something from his/her link. It pretty much hype to make money. The table looks OK but they dont tell you how much is in there so you could be getting next to nothing pheromone wise in them. I can tell you from experience Pherlure and Euphoria suck, Athena is very mild, Primal is good, Arouse RX is mild, Androstenone is probably to strong unless you know what your doing with it. I would never buy pheromones on ebay, they rip you off there. Yes there are gay mixes, Androtics has one as well called Mystery boy It is a different ratio of certain pheromones plus a few females pheromones added. No you wont attract men unless your gay. You can find Alpha Androstenol in pig saliva because they tend to eat truffles. What do you mean whats going on now ? If they eat truffles you will still find Alpha Androstenol in there saliva but its not where the Alpha Androstenol is derived from in pheromone mixes in the USA. Some companies in China use animal pheromones in there mixes but a good reputable company like Androtics will not. I suggest AMMO Instant Shine and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) for your situation. Oh and Turn Up The Heat didnt do anything for tfer because he is 18 and probably makes enough anone on his own or it was to strong for him and he got the OD effect Tisha ---
**Author:** ![BadBoysDriveAudi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/badboysdriveaudi/32/2292_2.png) [@BadBoysDriveAudi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BadBoysDriveAudi)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 1:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/18932/12 "2008-09-13T01:35:03Z")
> KevinSL > > I definitely don’t want to spend a fortune on something that doesn’t work as you said it -waste of money. Relative newb here, but let me just address this comment as I’ve just made a sizable order a few days ago. 1. There are small “ToGo” bottles of the products here that are about the size of a cologne sample, and the prices on them are extremely reasonable. Reasonable, in fact, that it encourages you to try out the product without much investment. I didn’t see this option when I first placed my order so I’m pointing this out to all folks who are new and want to try out the products without risking material capital loss. 2. The products here aren’t like canned services where it’s one size fits all. If you were asking me the best online brokerage service, I could probably spit out a name for you based on EXACTLY how you intended to trade (or simply buy and hold). I could do that because I have (or had in some cases) multiple accounts just about everywhere in order to evaluate everyone’s services. It’s the same thing here EXCEPT that pheros interact differently on different people. I know that sounds like the all-inclusive disclaimer to cover your a$$, and believe me, I sympathize with you on that. I was in the same boat for well over a year before I placed my first order here this past Sunday. But here’s the rub – had I not placed the order, I wouldn’t have ever known if this “phero stuff” worked for me. At the end of the day, that’s really what this is right – will this work for me? And so, I present to you a logical choice; do you purchase a tester at a reasonable cost to try it out, or do you forgo the expense (and the knowledge)? I’ve started a journal here and I’m going to try my best to keep it current (I have to finish my experiences from yesterday and today), but I make it well known that I’m extremely skeptical about the effects of the product and that I’m ever so mindful to eliminate the placebo effect. What I can tell you is that I experienced a good hit yesterday that caused an encounter today (more on that in the journal…when I get to it). For you, I’d suggest getting rid of Icebreaker and cutting your losses. I attribute it to axing E\*Trade and Schwab just a few years ago because of an outrageous commission structure; sometimes you just have to know that you’ve invested time and money in something and it isn’t going to pan out. Cut your losses and move on. If Icebreaker is anything like the combination that I sprayed on myself yesterday, multiplied by a factor of two, then you OD’ed. From everything I’ve read, too much -none will kill any hope of interaction. There are subject matter experts here on the forum; use them! Be skeptical as much as you want; I encourage it and will be in your corner. Always exercise due diligence. Ultimately, you will have to make the decision whether you are content with wondering for the rest of your life or if you’re going to try the products and decide for yourself if they have a positive effect. I’d loan you my bottles if it were feasible, but somehow I don’t think you live in the town that I do.