# Hello everybody **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 4, 2010, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243 "2010-01-04T07:04:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Crusader254](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Crusader254](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crusader254)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243/1 "2010-01-04T07:04:22Z")
Hello everyone My name is Jake, i’m 19 and i’m looking to get to get some assistant from [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). I’m pretty good at opening but majority of the time I fall into the friend zone rather than the potential mate zone. I’m hoping these pheromones will get me past that barrier any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243/2 "2010-01-04T07:13:30Z")
HI Jake, Welcome to the forum. To break away from friend zone, try IH and AMMO. IH will make the girls more personal with you. They will talk in more details and become closer to you. AMMO will make them attracted to you. It can attract them sexually too. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243/3 "2010-01-04T11:01:13Z")
Hi Jake, welcome to the forum! Jamesbonded’s recommendations are perfect! Ammo is great for both your confidence and sex appeal, and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) will get girls to open up to you more. If you have any questions, just ask 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 11:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243/4 "2010-01-04T11:03:55Z")
Hi Jake, Welcome to the forum, [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is good to have paired with the other types of pheromones like Ammo. Can you also provide more information about yourself and your personality interests etc. Chris ---
**Author:** ![Crusader254](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Crusader254](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crusader254)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243/5 "2010-01-04T19:37:57Z")
I’m pretty funny guy, easy going. I make friends with girls fairly easily, not trying to be too confident, But as far as making friends that’s as far as I get, I feel I get too close. I’m guess my problem is that they want me to make the move, however I guess I wait a bit too long and they just move on. I’m not very shy although I do manage to skip some very opportune moments. This one time, this girl asked me to go back to her dorm to watch a movie (her roommate was out), but I for some strange reason made up the most embarrassing excuse to say no. Believe it or not this happens quite a bit, I just never manage to get the courage to say sure or unless I was drunk hehe… How are the effects of instant shine? ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243/6 "2010-01-04T19:45:18Z")
Instant Shine is one of my personal favorites. I have it in 4x (more economical), and just a quick spritz will get me in a better mood, and also add some cheer to dull environments or situations. And, Ammo and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) should help you get out of that friend zone, and give you a little more confidence in getting closer to women. ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243/7 "2010-01-04T22:13:25Z")
Hi and Welcome Crusader, You know the secret, :)women like to be heard. (See my recommendations below) You stated, “I make friends with girls fairly easily, not trying to be too confident. But as far as making friends that’s as far as I get, I feel I get too close.” Crusader, please consider this, there are some men that are blatant, they see a lady, and they will explore the most erogenous parts of her body with their eyes. Carefully now, I’ am just making a point. Why would a guy do that? Perhaps it’s because he wants the women to know, he’s doing it. He wants her to pick up his message (Indicator of Interest). If she picks up his signal; she will probably know that the man is interested in her. Are you sending out some Indicator of Interests (IOIs) every now and then. You don’t want to be struck in the “ **let’s just be friends** ” category. I provided some food for thought: A few signals that you can send (IOI) to her. Glaze at her for a few seconds; maybe even during the conservation stroke you chin, and if possible touch her hand, arm, or shoulder(respect places).🙂 These are just a few. 90% (you) / 10% (pheromones) remain in effect. So incorporating pheromones can be helpful to your overall game plan. You stated, “I’m not very shy although I do manage to skip some very opportune moments. This one time, this girl asked me to go back to her dorm to watch a movie (her roommate was out), but I for some strange reason made up the most embarrassing excuse to say no. Believe it or not this happens quite a bit." Please take risks, and go for what you want. Certain events and situations like that girl. That one thing a lot of men, have to deal with, and that’s we must not take rejection personally. It’s not just about you or me, Crusader it’s about a person past experiences. A person past has a lot to do with the way they are. All the more reason for men to take risks, and go for what we want! I would recommend the following products to get you away from the “let just be friends" phase:🙂 AMMO ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) on its own says sexy, attractive, interesting, arousing. (Like a Brad Pitt) [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) for increase closeness with you, our aim is more revealing conservation. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for it self effect to bring a more relax, joyful and confident mindset. Final thought, as humans we all like people who like us; if you know someone thinks you are wonderful, you instantly up their attractiveness to make it more of a compliment to you. It also forces you to **consider** them as a prospective partner and perhaps most importantly- provide some **feedback**. **Lesson** : Let people know if you think they are sexy. Just **don’t** go overboard on the compliments. respectfully, MVKBUGATTI ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243/8 "2010-01-04T22:20:08Z")
Thanks so much for joining PheroTalk, I’m super excited to have you here. It’s always great when a new member discovers a world so full of endless possibilities. The only limits to mones is our own imagination 🙂 While I would love to issue you the $25 Gift Certificate for saying hello I do kindly request you post some more about yourself here. If you are unsure about what qualifies as sufficient to obtain the gift certificate I am just itching to email you, please have a look at this thread: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) I wrote it to help everyone in writing the perfect introduction. Of course the choice is yours and your privacy is very important. If you just don’t feel comfortable providing additional info we will all still do our best to assist you anyway. Welcome to PheroTalk ---
**Author:** ![Crusader254](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Crusader254](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crusader254)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243/9 "2010-01-12T17:07:56Z")
Thanks for all the advice guys! Also, I live in Wisconsin, and I am 20 years old. I hope to get some of the togo versions with the 25 dollars. I hope I provided enough information! ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243/10 "2010-01-12T21:59:29Z")
Thank you for the additional information. Yes, you have wrote enough for a $25 gift certificate. MVK made some good suggestions. All guys are not put into the friends zone. It is usually the guys we don’t have sexual feelings towards or won’t even call when we want some unknown booty because he is the pushover. We will call him for favors but that’s it. Yes, you can be friendly with the ladies but know when to cut it short or cut it off. The [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) suggestions are great and I suggest you pop into the men’s section for some more advice on this one. Women like confidence and aggression at the right time. You will not get it the first time but eventually and the cute girl at the bar you may be thinking is gonna turn you down is actually waiting for you to make a move so go ahead. Your GC will be issued soon! ---
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everybody/35243/11 "2010-01-13T16:21:04Z")
> [@Crusader254](#): > > I’m pretty funny guy, easy going. I make friends with girls fairly easily, not trying to be too confident, But as far as making friends that’s as far as I get, I feel I get too close. I’m guess my problem is that they want me to make the move, however I guess I wait a bit too long and they just move on. > > I’m not very shy although I do manage to skip some very opportune moments. This one time, this girl asked me to go back to her dorm to watch a movie (her roommate was out), but I for some strange reason made up the most embarrassing excuse to say no. Believe it or not this happens quite a bit, I just never manage to get the courage to say sure or unless I was drunk hehe… > > How are the effects of instant shine? Hey Jake… First of all, you sound like a nice kid (did you have a recent bday - you say you are 19 in one post and 20 in another). I am going to offer a perspective a bit different. I personally think it is good that you missed out on the opportunity to “watch the movie”. You’re young and that can lead to an explosion of intimacy that will really not benefit you in the long run. With this gal or any others. Bravo for being one of the few who can achieve mind-over-hormones (at your age). It sounds like you have the friendship part down. GREAT! This is the HARDEST PART to get good at, so at 20 you’re waaaay ahead of the pack. Too take things to the next level you just have to be patient and persistent. Right now it doesn’t even sound like there is a particular girl? So you’re just walking blindly. Use the friendships you develop to draw you to one particular candidate. Want to be intimate with someone, not anyone. Then, when your heart is dictating who that someone is – THEN you can concern yourself with taking it to the next level. And when you do, do so with confidence - have a winning attitude. Be sure to take it to the ‘next level’ through verbal communication first. It is very often a mistake to enter the intimate before the verbal. Don’t try and “make a move” - ask her on a date. Something basic. Something non-threatening. “I was going to go to see xyzmovie on Saturday. Do you want to join me?” Patience balanced with persistence will be the key. _" I just never manage to get the courage to say sure or unless I was drunk"_ - don’t move from depending on one chemical to depending on two. Mones do not seem like the answer here.