# Hello everyone from Paris !! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 10, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-from-paris/33963 "2009-11-10T03:10:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rasmioche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@Rasmioche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rasmioche)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-from-paris/33963/1 "2009-11-10T03:10:15Z")
Hi ! My name is Ramy, I am 19 y.o. and I am leaving in Paris (France). First of all let me say that i finally found the way to create a new thread after only 3 hours of searching the way to do it šŸ˜ƒ Well, i have african origins ( if it can help to choose better the mones due to skin differences ), and what else ā€¦ ? šŸ˜• hum ā€¦ i am shy, very vey shy. Thatā€™s the reason why I am here; when it comes to friendship I feel very comfortable with people, and never have any problems in social relationsā€¦ I am the type of guy all the people wants to be friend with. That might seem a good thing, and it certainly isā€¦ but the problem is that people and girls only want to be friends ( very close friends some times ) : they tell me a lot of things about them that normaly they would tell only to their best friends ( this hapens to me with boys and girls ), so I guess I make them feel comfortable. The point is that as beeing a friend, they never want to keep things to the next level, and I am so shy that when I only think of trying I get scared and never do anything, or if I try to do something I always do something wrongā€¦ ā˜¹ Because of that I lost my self confidence and now itā€™s even harder than before ( but as I said, in friendship I have no problems ) Well I will not boore you with the story of my life cause itā€™s not an exiting thing to read šŸ˜ƒ As I was saying I am here to try pheromones, and maybe ( I hope so ) give a boost in my life, and regain confidence. I started searching pheromones products on google yesterday, and I found two sites, androtics and another one. I choosed androtics because I read that they simply have the best stuff. I canā€™t say that I know a lot about pheromonesā€¦ I only know the basical information : theese are hormones and other chemical substances that our body releases constantly, and every pheromone has an effect on us and on other people ( and animals ) .So here we areā€¦ as I said I was looking to some products to attract girls ( of my age of course ). Iā€™ve noticed a lot of sprays that I want to try, and I just need your advice about buying them. here is the list of the products I want to test : - Come Talk To Me (Mix 2) To Go I donā€™t know if I really need this according to what I said about my friendhip relations with the othersā€¦ but if it can help to break the ice or if it has other effects then Iā€™ll take it ] ā€“ \> like Instant Openness TO GO - Spaceland ā€“ High Alpha-Androstenol Fun Mix TO GO I didnā€™t really understand what this does, but from whar I read, it looks ā€œfunnyā€ šŸ˜ƒ ] - Instant Openness TO GO I donā€™t know if I really need this according to what I said about my friendhip relations with the othersā€¦ but if it can help to break the ice or if it has other effects then Iā€™ll take it ] ā€“ \> like Come Talk To Me (Mix 2) To Go - Turn Up the Heat Sexual Pheromone - To Go I donā€™t know if I have to take this one, or AMMUNITION ( but itā€™s out of stock for nowā€¦ ), or the 2 if AMMUNITION will be available soon ] - Instant Shine Feel Good Pheromone - TO GO I definetly think that I need this for myself to regain some self-confidence, and of course for the other effects ] ā€“\> for now this is the only spray that I might think to buy full size. - AMMUNITION Cologne for Men - TO GO I donā€™t know if I have to take this one ( but itā€™s out of stock for nowā€¦ ), or TUTH, or the 2 if AMMUNITION will be available soon] - Instant Honesty TO GO This might be interesting to have and to testā€¦] - [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) For Men To Go Do I need it ??? ] As you have noticed, I choosed the travel size sprays because this is the first time that I will use pheromones and I want to see wich ones functions with me and how do they function. I would like to take them all, but I think that I only will be able to take a maximum of 6 sprays, because I donā€™t really have the money and the shipping to france is 20 $ on itā€™s ownā€¦ so here we are, I am looking for your help. The more answers I get, the best it will be for me to choose the 6 on 8 sprays to buyā€¦ so PLEASE, tell me your advice about each spray in the list above, and tell me wich ones should i buy to test. Also remember to tell me wich strenghts to get ( i can pay some extra euro if it will give me a more powerfull product. ā€” I also need to know if anybody can tell me when Ammunition will be available againā€” **Important : Pease keep in mind that I am looking on pheromones to help me date girls, and maybe something more, but itā€™s not the only reason. I also want to feel beeter with my-self by finding the self-confidence that I lost, and why notā€¦ also improove my social life with parents, job collegues and not only friends : so I am looking for a " total care " list of products** I would like to have fast answer please cause next week I am going to Stockholm with some friends, and I was thinking that testing the sprays in Stockholm bars and discos would be a great idea. šŸ˜‰ Well, thatā€™s all šŸ™„ lol I wrote too much but wanted to tell you the more informations that came in my mind so you could answer faster. I want to thank you all, and itā€™s a pleasure to be part of this community, or I might call it also family šŸ™‚ Bye for now !! Ramy ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-from-paris/33963/2 "2009-11-10T03:22:01Z")
Welcome Ramy. From your description of your personality, I donā€™t think you need io, ih, cttm2 or spaceland for starting out. Later you may wish to experiment with them. tuth, ammo, and IG are all good ideas for starting. Read up on tuth and use it very carefully though. Best to start with the commercial products in the standard strengths. The higher strengths are for later, if you figured out you need multiple sprays to get the effect youā€™re looking for. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-from-paris/33963/3 "2009-11-10T03:34:30Z")
Hey Ramy, Excellent introduction! Welcome to the forums. I have used all the products you mentioned with the exception of CTTM and AMMO. Heres what I think. You should get one product for confidence, once for being social and one for being sexual. If you want you can get a variety of one of these categories to see what you prefer or to make sure you get one that works the best for you but essentially thats be best for get started. For confidence, [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is the most cost effective solution. It will give you a laid back James Bond feel. Although if you go with A314 it is a much more stronger confidence and you receive alot more respect from others. My favorite product for being social would be instant openness because I see such good results from it. I would advise not to use it unless you have the time to talk to alot of people. Judging from your into it seems you wouldnā€™t need instant honesty due to your trustworthy nature. And for being sexual, yes AMMO would probably be your best choice. My best guess it it be in stock in the next week or two. But if you get IG and IO those two products would mix well with TUTH and give you smiler results. I personally would try that if AMMO isnā€™t here in the next few days. Because your still young your body is still producing alot of the main ingredients in AMMO, TUTH, and IJ. Having too much will cause an overdose and or people ignoring/getting irritated. I put the products in order of there intensity. Spaceland is actually very interesting, I find its great when you want to reduce space between you and someone else. When I used it with a girl I like it almost became magical. I would get this if you plan to have any 1 on 1s with woman or close parties with friends. Makes things fun. Anyways, all the best!! Post on the forum and tell us how things go šŸ™‚ Daset ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-from-paris/33963/4 "2009-11-10T06:19:30Z")
Bonjour, Ramy. We call your problem ā€œbeing put in the friend zoneā€. Youā€™re too much of a nice guy; you need to develop your sexual confidence, you need to see yourself as a sexual man who can give a woman pleasure. Without that belief in yourself, you wonā€™t get very far with the pheromones. When you see a woman you are attracted to, take a moment to tell yourself, ā€œThis is a woman Iā€™m sexually interested in, and Iā€™m proud of my sexualityā€. As far as pheros go, try ammunition. You might even try Instant Jerk for the self-effects, I find that a lot of androstenone makes me more of a sexual guy, dab it right under your nose for maximum self-effects. I would not go with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), androsterone could emphasise your nice guy persona. Youā€™ve got that already, you need more ā€œbad boyā€. Bon chance. ---
**Author:** ![Rasmioche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@Rasmioche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rasmioche)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 10:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-from-paris/33963/5 "2009-11-10T10:56:02Z")
Hello again. I want to thank you all for the very quick answers youā€™ve posted. So from what I read, I see that the product that I have to take is AMMUNITION. However, for now itā€™s out of stock, so I could try to mix TUTH with IG or another pheromone as Daset1 said. I noticed that there are 3 similar products, but I am very confused about wich one fits better for me, and what are each ones effects : talking about IG, A314, and Instant shine ( to go size ). Please explain me wich one is the best for me, I can take 2 of them if they are different and have good effects. I am really considering to buy one or two of theeseā€¦ ā€œHaving too much will cause an overdose and or people ignoring/getting irritatedā€ : I read this sentence a lot of times, but still canā€™t understand why if I put too much TUTH, people may ignore me or get irritatedā€¦ can anybody explain ? šŸ˜• I also read on the forum about another productā€¦ but I donā€™t remember the nameā€¦ it might be something like " magic " and " women ". Do you see what I am talking about ? Is it good for me ? For now I understood that I donā€™t really need : Come Talk To me, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty I have to choose between : [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant Shine, and A314 I have to take : Ammunition, but itā€™s out of stock, so I may purchase TUTH and mix it with other pheromones ? Still waiting for more posts about what you think, and also tell me about Spaceland, because I am also considering to try it, with the other one that I told you ( magic-woman ??? ) šŸ˜• Well, what to say ? thank you everybody for helping me, especially for the 3 first answers that made me less confused ( but I still am a bit šŸ˜› ) Bye for now Ramy ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-from-paris/33963/6 "2009-11-10T12:53:03Z")
Hey Ramy From my experience instant shine had the lease effect but there are other that have said it makes them and others feel really good and happy. This may or may not work for you to bring confidence but it will most likely put you in a good mood. IG and A314 I find brings me to the center of attention. IG comes in a to go sized bottle but A314 only comes in a slow release oil which in return is also more powerful. They have similarities but A314 is stronger in both how others perceive it and self effects. But think of IG as being the more social self confidence pheromone where as A314 will give you more respect but sometimes less approachability. Where this comes into play is lets say you want to date someone that has a much higher social value then you like a model. They would have a much higher interest in you if you had A314 but you may have to mix some social products with the A314 in order for them to act upon the vibes there feel or else they may feel your too good for them. Wow, thats long but I hope that clarifies. A314 has the most effect out of all things mentioned, but it has the highest price. I personally have used both at the same time and its made me feel god like loll. Each pheromone will have a specific point that if you spray too much you will overdose. Some you can use alot before you reach that point. Its different for everyone because your body is producing more or less pheromones depending on your age and background. The older you get or just from genetics you may be producing less and therefor can spray more. The products mentioned for making sexy vibes use -none products which if used improperly can cause an overdose. Essentially what this means is people get too Strong of a pheromone signal from you and get confused. They will either get irritated with you or ignore you because there subconscious doesnā€™t understand and wants to avoid. Its something that you will need to test for when you buy pheromones and find your sweet spot. you may find one spray of TUTH is enough, or 2 of ammo etc. I think your talking about [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) which I believe they donā€™t sell anymore. I see what products your mentioning. I still believe you may like IO, its a good product to mix with A314 or with the -none products. You could get IG, IO, and TUTH in to-go sizes. Also if AMMO comes into stock in the next few days which it could I would definitely get that over TUTH from all the good reviews. A314 will be more expensive, it you get it be sure to also get a social product with it. Theres alot ot cover!! go ahead and ask more if there something I missed! Cheers! Daset ---
**Author:** ![Rasmioche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@Rasmioche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rasmioche)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-from-paris/33963/7 "2009-11-10T23:00:42Z")
Hi Daset. Thanks again for your quick answer. I think that i will buy what youā€™ve told me to take : IG , TUTH , ( I am still thinking about IO ) , and instant shine. still thinking to take Spaceland too, so for now itā€™s a 3 + 2 products, and I am waiting Steveā€™s answer to know if AMMO will be available soon, so it may be a 6 sprays packet that Iā€™ll purchase. Thanks again. Other peoples posts are welcome !!! Ramy ---
**Author:** ![Rasmioche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@Rasmioche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rasmioche)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-from-paris/33963/8 "2009-11-12T00:12:29Z")
Hello again. I want to specially thank Daset for all the answers you gave me. I donā€™t know how I did it, but I did itā€¦ I wanted to choose your last message as best answer but I guess I clicked on my answer wich is ridiculousā€¦ whanteverā€¦ I want to thank you again, and also want you to know that your answer was the best one for me ( that doesnā€™t mean that otherā€™s answers were rubbish !! šŸ˜ƒ ) Sorry again for the mistake. Bye for now. Ramy ---
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Hello and welcome to PheroTalk. I am so happy you were able to discover this most amazing community. We consider each other like family here and are totally committed to helping each other out. There are so many great people here and now another too šŸ™‚. I will be issuing your GC in just a short while to your email. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. Iā€™m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too šŸ™‚. Its cool! Of course Steve is available to answer any question you might have regarding mones. Please call our hot-line and select extension one and Steve will be able to consult you one on one. Welcome to the forum. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-from-paris/33963/10 "2009-11-13T20:21:58Z")
Appreciate it! Let us know how eveything goes šŸ™‚