# Hello Everyone, Need a little help on starting.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-need-a-little-help-on-starting/2548>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [March 17, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-need-a-little-help-on-starting/2548 "2007-03-17T14:50:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![VSII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ba0ec/32.png) [@VSII](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/VSII)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-need-a-little-help-on-starting/2548/1 "2007-03-17T14:50:32Z")

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Hey everyone,  
I am a 23yr old male from Aussie, I have been looking into pheromones for a while now and purchased pherlure about 2 months ago, not happy with it really, I do get a million comments from people i know though on how good I smell but thats about it.

I have been in long term relationships since I was 15 without any breaks really. I am not looking for a whole heap of flings but a few here and there couldn’t possibly hurt though.

My major problem seems to be approaching women as I really haven’t had much practise at it. I am not really looking for the one night stand type of woman if you know what I mean. I seem to always fall for the good but can be bad type of chick.

What do you guys recommend i was looking at turn up the heat but think its a little hardcore for me but was thinking maybe A314, Ammo, and maybe something like instant openess or [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) Mix 2 what do you guys think?

Anyhow thanks in advance and glad to be part of the community. Cheers.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-need-a-little-help-on-starting/2548/2 "2007-03-17T15:37:42Z")

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Hi and a warm BIG welcome to our humble forum.

You are going to have a blast with some of these pheromones.

I agree that you should stay away from Turn Up The Heat! There’s a couple of things to consider about pheromones. NONE of them are going to get women to approach you (in most instances). You will get subtle IOI like hair twirling, smiles and such, but the key here is being able to pick up on those and capitalizing by approaching them.

A314 will boast your status, think James Cagney! The guy was cool…

Ammo is some great stuff too. It adds a sense of mystique to you, IMO, and creates a bit of sexual tension without going overboard. I would go with some Instant Shine, and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) too if it’s in the budget.

For me Shine makes me more happy but also more aware of those subtle happiness signals around me. IO makes people chatty (sometimes to much so) but it’s great as a way to get people talking.

Stop by the mens forum and read this thread by Toilofday [Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159). It will give you a fantastic base understanding of the different pheromone molecules and what you can expect from them.

Soon enough (about a week) the lovely Jasmin will grace you with a gift certificate for your intro.

Welcome

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-need-a-little-help-on-starting/2548/3 "2007-03-17T21:05:32Z")

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shine and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/).

youll have younger versions of me clinging to your leg like a chihuahua 😃

kidding.

seriously, i cant imagine anyone going wrong with Ammo and instant shine.  
its a positive combination.

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**Author:** ![VSII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ba0ec/32.png) [@VSII](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/VSII)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-need-a-little-help-on-starting/2548/4 "2007-03-18T11:42:34Z")

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Thanks guys for the reply,  
The basic noob phero bootcamp post by toilofday was awesome. I also sifted through some posts today and saw something from Lor I think saying that she thought instant openness and instant honesty together was better then CTTM2.

Just so we are clear on something steveo, I wouldn’t have a problem approaching these chicks if I could see they were interested but starting a conversation with a woman out of thin air really is not my strong point. But if she shows a bit of interest I am straight over there this is more what I am looking for. 🙂

Anyhow for now it looks like I will go for Ammo, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), instant openness and Instant honesty. Then after I see how all these go I will lay down the money for the A314. 🆒

Anyways thanks again guys and look forward to giving my feedback on these products. Cheers.

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**Author:** ![VSII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ba0ec/32.png) [@VSII](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/VSII)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-need-a-little-help-on-starting/2548/5 "2007-03-21T02:02:58Z")

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Hey guys,  
Placed my first order yesterday, was gonna wait till i got my gift certificate but I am way to impatient LOL so i went ahead and ordered anyways. I got Ammo, Instant Shine, Instant openness and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). I can’t wait till they get here, kinda really excited lol.😃 Anyways look forward to giving feedback cheers.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-need-a-little-help-on-starting/2548/6 "2007-03-21T02:06:38Z")

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that is the order that every new-to-androtics guy should order.

well,A314 is pretty great too,lol.

seriously, you couldnt have done better 🙂

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**Author:** ![VSII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ba0ec/32.png) [@VSII](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/VSII)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-need-a-little-help-on-starting/2548/7 "2007-03-21T02:40:30Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> that is the order that every new-to-Androtics guy should order.
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> well,A314 is pretty great too,lol.
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> seriously, you couldnt have done better 🙂

I knew you would approve, I got my ideas from your posts, I really want A314 as well but I will have to wait till next week plus once i get the gift certificate plus reward points will pay for over half of it, I wanna get Instant Female magic aswell but these 2 will be in my next order. Cheers.

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**Author:** ![VSII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ba0ec/32.png) [@VSII](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/VSII)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone-need-a-little-help-on-starting/2548/8 "2007-03-28T10:09:30Z")

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Hey guys,  
I am honestly not trying to make a fuss and I don’t mean to be a bother, but how long do you reckon it will take the almighty jasmin to send me a gift certificate cos I really want to use it in my next order which i really want to make tomorrow. I have PM’d her twice just curious is all I do understand she is awfully busy. Cheers.
