# Hello everyone. **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [October 26, 2010, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862 "2010-10-26T08:58:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Xocide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e8c25b/32.png) [@Xocide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xocide)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/1 "2010-10-26T08:58:25Z")
Hey, I just stumbled across this site, and been reading a lot of the posts for the past 2 hours. There is a lot of good info here, and I thought “Hey, it wouldn’t hurt to give the Phero scene a try.” I am a 20 year old male currently living in Vermont, and my social life is pretty good, however it is not where I would like it to be. Now I know [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) won’t make me hot and interesting over night, but I feel that they could help me even if it is only in a small amount. I’ll admit it, I am a virgin, I don’t have any problems approaching women, the only problem I have is that all women I approach eventually “Love me”, but consider me as a “Best friend” rather then a potential man for a relationship. I’m hoping that I can find a few answers on this forum, and maybe a phero combo to help with my predicament. Once again awesome site! and I can’t wait to see what I learn from it. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 9:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/2 "2010-10-26T09:50:36Z")
Hi Xocide and welcome to Pherotalk. Good that you have been doing plenty of reading - Do a lot more before you make your first purchase decisions. There is plenty more that you have to consider along with pheros - they do help of course but only as part of an overhaul of your entire physical and behavioural approach. For starting out, as a younger person, with an amount of confidence/sociability, it might well be better to stick with the social mones and maybe only a very slight touch of the sexual ones. Women in your age range tend to be more sensitive to those and you can easilly present an overly sexual/intimidating image, instead of simply attractive. Then there is the matter of the people you want to attract in the first place and how you demonstrate yourself to them - eg, do you want to present yourself as a person of status or as a fun party guy, or somewhere inbetween? EG, status could be confered by A314 or [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), sliding along to sociability from Instant Shine or Instant Openess, then towards the more sexually orientated mones like Ammo, Turn up the heat or Instant Jerk. The more you tell us about your personality and what you are looking for/hope to achieve, the better we will be able to offer opinions and advice. Although most of us have probably done it, nobody is hoping you will rush-in and maybe buy the wrong product first - we would rather see you find the right approach and the pheros to complement it first. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JAYCEE1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JAYCEE1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JAYCEE1)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/3 "2010-10-26T10:15:32Z")
If you keep getting FZed, you need to work more on your game. For mones, I’d go with ammo + IShine to start. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/4 "2010-10-26T14:03:56Z")
Hey, welcome. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is definitely the product for you. It would let the girls know you are interested. More importantly, it should get them hot and aroused. As jaycee suggested, I would also get instant shine. Try 2x ammo + 1x is or just 2x ammo alone around the girls you see. Do that for two weeks and u should see some difference, but in a good way 😉 ---
**Author:** ![amontenegrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@amontenegrot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/amontenegrot)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/5 "2010-10-26T15:57:39Z")
hi there… have a lot of fun, and please, make good and inteligent things… stop killing the environment! [latin ladies](http://www.thecolombiansoulmates.com) ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/6 "2010-10-26T16:31:04Z")
> [@Xocide](#): > > Hey, I just stumbled across this site, and been reading a lot of the posts for the past 2 hours. There is a lot of good info here, and I thought “Hey, it wouldn’t hurt to give the Phero scene a try.” I am a 20 year old male currently living in Vermont, and my social life is pretty good, however it is not where I would like it to be. Now I know Pheromones won’t make me hot and interesting over night, but I feel that they could help me even if it is only in a small amount. I’ll admit it, I am a virgin, I don’t have any problems approaching women, the only problem I have is that all women I approach eventually “Love me”, but consider me as a “Best friend” rather then a potential man for a relationship. I’m hoping that I can find a few answers on this forum, and maybe a phero combo to help with my predicament. Once again awesome site! and I can’t wait to see what I learn from it. Try reading Mystery Method. I’ve liked what I read about it so far, but I had a basis of some David DeAngelo’s books earlier as well. For what you’re trying to look for, is essentially, attraction and preventing the dreaded friend zone. Overall if I had one product to get, and the best hits I’ve gotten as a begginer, was AMMO. For a while it was the only thing I used and had very very good success with. I strongly believe if you need just one product, for your needs, then AMMO would be it. Overall I like A314 but that’s because I’ve worked on my social skills and been at this for a while. Complements for ammo would be Instant Shine, and since you’re having trouble with opening to people [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) would work very well for you, even CTTM (its under the women’s togo section). Remember that once someone initiates conversations with you, you have to keep it going, Instant Openness will help, but also knowing how to progress interactions helps out in a major way. Pheromones will only open the door, you are going to have to have the determination to walk through it. ---
**Author:** ![Xocide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e8c25b/32.png) [@Xocide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xocide)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/7 "2010-10-26T19:43:52Z")
Thanks guys! @mobocaster: Awesome help, only thing though It is extremely easy to get people to open up to me already, I can know a person for only a week and they will be telling me about their personal life, and confiding in me for advice. If anything I already give off alot of A314, and that might be the problem. But it’s still worth trying everything and seeing whats best. I’ll also keep in mind what you said about the sexual mones, Definitely do not want to turn the chicks away haha. @JAYCEE1: Yeah I really do need to work on my game. haha I get more of a “aww he’s sweet” reaction from girls. @CoolKatDC: So far all three of you have suggested Ammo, and both you an Jay suggested IS, so if anything I’ll give these two a try first. @P51Mustang: You said “since you’re having trouble with opening to people [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) would work very well for you” Now I thought, that was to help with having others open up to you? Does it also help you open up as well? And Overall what I’m looking for, is no so much one night stands, but actual intimate relationships. It’s tough because I’m not 100% sure what I want myself. If anything I’ll start with Ammo, and IS and just see what the results are, if I like em I’ll keep useing, if not I’ll try a different combo. Thanks again guys, once I grab some I make a post of my experiences. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/8 "2010-10-26T19:51:42Z")
For intimate, real relationships, definitely add [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) to your list. It makes others more comfortable with you and tend to trust you more, and is great for creating emotional bonds. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/9 "2010-10-26T19:54:14Z")
> [@Xocide](#): > > Thanks guys! @mobocaster: Awesome help, only thing though It is extremely easy to get people to open up to me already, I can know a person for only a week and they will be telling me about their personal life, and confiding in me for advice. If anything I already give off alot of A314, and that might be the problem. But it’s still worth trying everything and seeing whats best. I’ll also keep in mind what you said about the sexual mones, Definitely do not want to turn the chicks away haha. > > @JAYCEE1: Yeah I really do need to work on my game. haha I get more of a “aww he’s sweet” reaction from girls. > > @CoolKatDC: So far all three of you have suggested Ammo, and both you an Jay suggested IS, so if anything I’ll give these two a try first. > > @P51Mustang: You said “since you’re having trouble with opening to people Instant Openness would work very well for you” Now I thought, that was to help with having others open up to you? Does it also help you open up as well? > > And Overall what I’m looking for, is no so much one night stands, but actual intimate relationships. It’s tough because I’m not 100% sure what I want myself. If anything I’ll start with Ammo, and IS and just see what the results are, if I like em I’ll keep useing, if not I’ll try a different combo. Thanks again guys, once I grab some I make a post of my experiences. Yes, IO would help others open up and talk more. However, you still have to initiate with women. That part, you have to get over and learn to do. Reading about Mystery Method or practicing with some guys how to initiate with girls help. Also, try IH; girls feel warm and connected to you. IT should also help others open up AMMO + IS would be pretty good. It is not for ONS like TUTH + IS, but that would get some girls’ attention. ---
**Author:** ![Xocide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e8c25b/32.png) [@Xocide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xocide)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/10 "2010-10-26T20:06:24Z")
Haha yeah I know CK, I’m not expecting these mones to just be like BAM Chicks all over me like the Axe commercials. It Just doesn’t work that way. I just feel like I need a shot of confidence to be able to walk over to a hot chick and start a convo, and then be able to keep it going while getting them hot, or if not that just interested. Which by the sounds of it would be a mix of Ammo + IH or IO? @Sillykitty: I’ll take a look into that one, always good to get a woman’s point of view. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/11 "2010-10-26T20:12:51Z")
> [@Xocide](#): > > Haha yeah I know CK, I’m not expecting these mones to just be like BAM Chicks all over me like the Axe commercials. It Just doesn’t work that way. I just feel like I need a shot of confidence to be able to walk over to a hot chick and start a convo, and then be able to keep it going while getting them hot, or if not that just interested. Which by the sounds of it would be a mix of Ammo + IH or IO? > > @Sillykitty: I’ll take a look into that one, always good to get a woman’s point of view. Usually, people use AMMO + IO when they meet girls for the first time, and then, subsequent times, they substitute IO for IH, since IH seems a bit more serious, and you want to be more carefree and casual for first meetings ---
**Author:** ![Xocide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e8c25b/32.png) [@Xocide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xocide)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/12 "2010-10-26T20:23:20Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > Usually, people use AMMO + IO when they meet girls for the first time, and then, subsequent times, they substitute IO for IH, since IH seems a bit more serious, and you want to be more carefree and casual for first meetings Gotcha, Then I shall give those two a try first, and maybe some IShine ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/13 "2010-10-26T23:37:09Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Xocide! That is a tough situation to be in and will require the professional men advice on this forum. Luckily for you these men have the antidote to this virus and will assist you even further in the men section. I am glad you came to us the doctors of love and relationships. Your gc was issued. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xocide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e8c25b/32.png) [@Xocide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xocide)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-everyone/42862/14 "2010-10-27T01:16:42Z")
Thank you very much [Mickaelia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mickaelia). I’m looking forward to exploring this site more 🙂