# Hello from a lurker! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 30, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-lurker/34490 "2009-11-30T18:25:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Old\_guard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@Old\_guard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Old_guard)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-lurker/34490/1 "2009-11-30T18:25:32Z")
I’ve been lurking on the forums here for a bit, and have read over quite a bit on [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and effects. Rather than diving straight into a purchase, I wanted to ensure I got the right product. I was hoping that by giving some details, it might help determine the best product to purchase as a “starter”. First, I’ve experienced firsthand that there is something “missing”, that extra little shove, that gets a relationship going for me. I have plenty of hits (I’m not unpleasant to the eyes, but I’m no Brad Pitt) in conversation. However, I’m a bit withdrawn on taking up those “hits”, being a bit more European in upbringing. I generally elicit more of a feeling of safety or comfort, more like a best friend than a sexual option. I’ve resolved some of my reservation on approaching women, but generally have to say I just don’t elicit any carnal desire. I’m the “safe mate”, but this doesn’t attract women I’m interested in physically, just matronly ones (which, by the way, I have tried on relationships and while I do like them, it just doesn’t work out for physical attraction reasons). Persona is not a problem; not an ass, total gentleman, and I can be an intriguing conversationalist in a flash. The main thing that seems to block me is the initial “reach” as you will, from the opposite sex. If a girl touches me or shows open interest, it’s on and I can woo or charm very skillfully. Otherwise, I wait until they show interest before approaching them. Call it a psychological block, but I just dislike being “the guy who’s hitting on me although I’m not interested”. So, the trick then becomes, how can I generate that interest? Hence pheromones. I believe that, with a bit of an icebreaker in this area, I can do well and locate someone more along the lines of who I’m interested in - so think this might be the best solution. There are, however, many products with many different results. I need at least a kick in the right direction! ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-lurker/34490/2 "2009-12-01T00:36:36Z")
HI there, Welcome to the forum. I reco0mmend you try IO, AMMO and IH. IO is the ice breaker. It can make ladies become interested to talk to you. IH will make them talk deeper. It can enhance relationship. AMMO will make them attracted to you. It can give you some sexual attraction too. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![benrichardson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b19c9b/32.png) [@benrichardson](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/benrichardson)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-lurker/34490/3 "2009-12-01T00:40:39Z")
Hey oldguard! 🙂 If you tell us a little more about yourself, you can qualify for a 25$ [gift certificate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) ! -Why don’t you tell us a little about your personality? -What exactly are you looking for in terms of a response? (do you want her to be “in the mood” more often, pay more attention to you, etc.) Don’t limit this answer to what pheromones you’ve seen on here, some of the members here know some amazing combinations to get that exact result you’re looking for! -Which of the products have caught your eye so far and why? This is a great community so stick around and good luck! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-lurker/34490/4 "2009-12-01T01:44:57Z")
Hello OG and welcome to the forum. I agree with most of JB’s recommendations. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) will be a good all around base. It can be worn anywhere but has enough none in it to let the ladies know you are interested. IO can also help a lot with those intial conversations. TUTH is good but is really most useful when things are getting very close. I would consider IShine. It will help help people feel happy to be around you. Hope this helps some. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_guard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@Old\_guard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Old_guard)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-lurker/34490/5 "2009-12-01T01:45:05Z")
> [@benrichardson](#): > > Hey oldguard! 🙂 > > If you tell us a little more about yourself, you can qualify for a 25$ [gift certificate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) ! Ahh, thanks. Is this in addition to the existing one received today? > [@](#): > > -Why don’t you tell us a little about your personality? > -What exactly are you looking for in terms of a response? (do you want her to be “in the mood” more often, pay more attention to you, etc.) Don’t limit this answer to what pheromones you’ve seen on here, some of the members here know some amazing combinations to get that exact result you’re looking for! > -Which of the products have caught your eye so far and why? Sorry, I thought I had been clear on the personality aspect in the intro post - and on the response I need. If I was unclear in any way on that, let me know more specifically what I should talk about, because I can’t see it. So far, AMMO (out of stock in both sizes) and TUTH seemed appropriate. IO might be good (as recommended by the first poster). IH not so interested. I can get honesty if I can get them to be nondismissive. My persona is really good at that. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_guard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@Old\_guard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Old_guard)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-lurker/34490/6 "2009-12-01T01:49:37Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Hello OG and welcome to the forum. > > I agree with most of JB’s recommendations. > > … > > Hope this helps some. Thanks, yes, to both you and JB. I was truly interested in Ammo, but it seems out of stock at the moment for both sizes. I’ll check again later and see if I can pick it up. If you have any other recommendations for a “base”, let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-lurker/34490/7 "2009-12-01T20:49:33Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Old Guard! Yes, you got some good recommendations there. The Ammunition is out of stock but that does not mean we can’t get you something else. IO and IH are great products to break the ice and promote long lasting conversation. I think that if you want the effects of both you can try the CTTM 2 and it does the trick. You already seem like the gentleman and because of your age I suggest you try TUTH. You might want to be careful because it send a raw sexual vibe. You can use it with the instant shine to buffer the signal sent. Experiment with these products and with the advice that the men will give you in the men’s section and I know great results are ahead of you. Your GC was already issued!