# Hello from a Widower looking to get back out **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 2, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-widower-looking-to-get-back-out/24433 "2009-01-02T02:18:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mhardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@mhardy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mhardy)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-widower-looking-to-get-back-out/24433/1 "2009-01-02T02:18:59Z")
Hello, I’m a widower of almost three years. I’m just trying to get back into the world and meet some woman. I need to gain some confidence when talking with them after 22 years with my love and best friend. I’m a 46 year old male in San Diego. Is ordering the to go’s a good place to start? MJH ---
**Author:** ![chicagokid1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@chicagokid1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chicagokid1)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-widower-looking-to-get-back-out/24433/2 "2009-01-02T02:40:11Z")
Hey mhardy welcome aboard, Its always hard getting out and meeting women, but pheros can give you that extra edge you need. I might suggest some of the social pheros like instant honesty / instant openness they are both great at making conversations flow a whole lot easier. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a cologne based phero which is used as an attractant. What kind of environment will you be testing them out? office? bars? etc? ask any ?'s you have its an open friendly board here ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-widower-looking-to-get-back-out/24433/3 "2009-01-02T03:27:08Z")
Hello MJH and welcome to the forum. I am sorry to hear about your loss. I am about your age nad have been married about as long as you were. I cannot imagine having to go back out and get back into the game as I occassionally think “What would I do” but after a few minutes give up and am thankful for where I am. There are two big ideas to remember with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). First is that they only give you an edge by enhancing who you already are. It will always be 90% you and 10% pheromones. Second you will need to work with them a little at first in order to find the proper dosing for your body chemistry as everyone is a little different. That being said, given your situation as being a little hesitant, I would recommend: Ammo - it has enough none in it to let the ladies know you are interested but is balanced enough you can wear it anywhere. Remember to start testing at low levels but as guys grow older they produce less 'none naturally so you will not have to worry too much about an OD. That means you may find your optimal dose up around 3 sprays or so but you will need to work with that and figure that out. Once you gfet a feel for how much you can wear, you may want to consider Double Strength (2X) Ammo (twice the amount of 'none - the “I am a Man” pheromone) but I would start with the regular strength first to get a feel for it. Next I would recommend IO. The alpha nols will make those intial conversations a lot easier. You may still have to initiate them, but if the ladies are interested the IO will help loosen their tongues. I would also think about IShine. It will leave everyone around you feeling happy. Women like guys who make them happy and smile. You may also want to consider A314. It is primarily designed for work to give you a strrong leader kind of vibe but it also pairs very well with Ammo for social and romance purposes. Try reading the thread in my signature block about using them as a combo for more on that idea. Please aks any questions, we are happy to help. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-widower-looking-to-get-back-out/24433/4 "2009-01-02T05:57:30Z")
Hi there, Welcome to the forum. I suggest you try some social phero. IO will open up girls and they will want to talk to you. This make you more approachable. IH will make them talk longer wth you. The conversation will be more meaningful. This makes the bonding between you and the girls. Shine will give you the confidence needed. It lighten your mood and the people around you. It is also used as confidence biister during social occassions. Have fun ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-widower-looking-to-get-back-out/24433/5 "2009-01-02T05:58:37Z")
Hello and welcome Wow 22 years that is a long time. Sorry to hear about what happen. Well you have come to a great place to get an edge with the pheromones and with yourself. I got out of a 3 year relationship and found myself here also and pheromones helped me alot. It takes some time to see results so keep that in mind. The guys gave good products to look at so if you have any questions ask, that is what we are here for. See you around! ---
**Author:** ![mhardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@mhardy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mhardy)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-widower-looking-to-get-back-out/24433/6 "2009-01-03T04:41:58Z")
> [@chicagokid1](#): > > Hey mhardy welcome aboard, > Its always hard getting out and meeting women, but pheros can give you that extra edge you need. I might suggest some of the social pheros like instant honesty / instant openness they are both great at making conversations flow a whole lot easier. Ammo is a cologne based phero which is used as an attractant. What kind of environment will you be testing them out? office? bars? etc? > ask any ?'s you have its an open friendly board here Thanks for the replies and the welcomes from everyone. Lets just say that six years of illness kicks the sh@#$ out of you and takes away just about any game I had. It’s so strange looking for any edge now in meeting the right people. I seem to connect with the married ladies, but not the divorced woman. But then again, I live in a small community and everyone seems to be watching me and what I’m doing. I’m self employed and don’t have any issues talking to my customers, and a lot of the woman I work for will chat away about some private issues. But this always seems to drop me in the friend zone. I can share, but it only seems to be while I’m there at their office or home. Then again, I know the EX. of the divorced woman and their kids, so I run from these woman as fast as I can. At this point in my life, I’m looking for conversation and company, so I’m looking forward to experimenting with the to-go’s I ordered. Thanks for the help and I’m sure I’ll be asking questions and posting my first update soon. MJH ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-widower-looking-to-get-back-out/24433/7 "2009-01-03T04:42:36Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 I am sorry for your lose. Getting back out there can be hard but mones can help give you a edge. Can you tell us about your personality so we know how you interact with others ? Are you shy, outgoing ect ect … How did you find out about mones and this forum ? These questions help us refer you to what will help you the most. I look forward to your reply so I can get your started with a GC. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-widower-looking-to-get-back-out/24433/8 "2009-01-03T04:47:36Z")
Whoop LOL we were posting at the same time 😃 I suggest you start with AMMO (double) so you use less and dont over scent. This is sexy confident mildly arousing Ishine for a charismatic charming war vibe IH for deeper conversation and feeling of connection If you have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mhardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@mhardy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mhardy)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-a-widower-looking-to-get-back-out/24433/9 "2009-01-03T05:11:02Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 > > I am sorry for your lose. Getting back out there can be hard but mones can help give you a edge. > > Can you tell us about your personality so we know how you interact with others ? Are you shy, outgoing ect ect … > > How did you find out about mones and this forum ? > > These questions help us refer you to what will help you the most. > > I look forward to your reply so I can get your started with a GC. > > Tisha Trish, Thanks for the reply and any guidance you can provide. Ok, I’m quiet and a bit shy and was so fortunate to have met and married the woman of my dreams. I’m now one of the many Breast Cancer Widowers raising my boys and looking forward to and also dreading an empty house. Now three years after her passing, I’m tired of the questions of "Why haven’t you moved on yet? I say that it takes time and confidence. I need the confidence to attract attention, I need the second look to say hey, maybe there is something there and then and a way to hold the attention for a meaningful conversation. By the way, I was told of pheromones by a very attractive married woman who’s attention I had to deflect. We connected, but I just was unable to possibly be the reason another man lost his wife. She told me of another man she knew who just made her blood boil and he finally told her why. So I googled Pheromones and here I am. mjh