# Hello from Arizona

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-arizona/6978>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [November 28, 2007, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-arizona/6978 "2007-11-28T00:09:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![TDubb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@TDubb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TDubb)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-arizona/6978/1 "2007-11-28T00:09:26Z")

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Hello everyone…I’m really new to this site and have very limited understanding about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) & if there will actually be any benefit to my using it. Right now I’m still skeptical, and I started looking into products about 2 weeks ago after hearing about pheromones in a Men’s Health article. Anyway I kind of stumbled onto this site & after reading a couple threads, I ended up purchasing Turn Up The Heat, but haven’t had a chance to use it much yet…once out at the bars only, not in a very social situation, but mostly dancing. I am still being optimistic that this product will work, from what I read in the threads it sounds like pheromones have worked & have been working with a lot of people on here. That is why I understand new users are being given gift certificates to say hello…Because it helps new users get acquainted with the feedback from everyone that has had a positive response from using pheromones & I hope I will be another one of those users. But yeah, I’m a 24 y.o.(going on 25 in April) guy from Wisconsin originally but recently moved her to Arizona in July. I am working full-time right now for a company that I’m unhappy with ;-p & a job that’s not very full-filling at all…besides the pay, I don’t get anything out of it & it’s not a very good social environment. So my near future plans are finishing school, probably in Psychology…and possibly go into Education & teaching eventually. & In the meantime find a new job that better suits me & closer to where I live. & I’m hoping my social life improves and while this pheromone thing is new to me, I’m looking forward to seeing its effects. Thanks!🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-arizona/6978/2 "2007-11-28T00:59:26Z")

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Hello Welcome to the forum 🙂

Hmmm TUTH is kinda strong for a 24 year old. Most guys your age make alot of anone naturally. Since TUTH is pretty much all anone you have to watch out for the OD effect.

I think with your GC money you should get something to buffer it with. IO or Instant shine would be good and turns it more friendly, flirty and not overbearing sexually.

Its ok to be skeptical. Most of us were in the beginning. Just keep a open mind and remember that it takes a little time and work to begin seeing results. You need to find your optimal dosage and give it time to mesh with you.

If you have any questions of need some help just ask 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-arizona/6978/3 "2007-11-28T01:26:35Z")

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Hey Dubb! Welcome to the forum. Tisha is right. Turn Up The Heat probably is overkill in the androstenone department for a 24 year old. I would suggest no more than one dab. Do what Tisha said and buffer it with a product without none. I think I Shine would be good to use with it or on its own. Remember that you have to do most of the work when meeting people. Pheromones can help, but they do not do all the work for you. It would be like thinking that just because you got your hair cut women should be all over you. We both know it does not work that way and neither do pheromones. Go easy on the TUTH. DrZorters

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**Author:** ![TDubb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@TDubb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TDubb)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-arizona/6978/4 "2007-11-29T00:30:17Z")

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Thanks for the reply back, & for the advice. I really had no Idea that there was such a thing as an OD effect & I also didn’t realize that age & natural [pheromone](https://a314.com/) production was a factor. All I had heard previously from reading a couple other threads was that other men have had success using Turn up the Heat. I appreciate the info! The product i was actually looking for that I read in Men’s Health to have a positive effect was Androstadienone, but when I searched for it there were only a couple products I seen that were sold on other sites & I was really hesitant to make the purchase because the sites seemed less legit & safe to purchase from. & in the process of searching for Androstadienone I stumbled onto this site & read only a couple threads which prompted me to give Turn up the Heat a try. The only product I was tempted to try that contained Androstadienone was Pheromax, do you know anything about this product or have any other advice for me? & sorry for being clueless about this, but what do you mean by buffering it? do you mean mix it with those other products? The time I used it, I sprayed some of my Aqua Di Gio cologne with it…does that help or is it recommended? Thanks for your time & helping me out! ~tony:o

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 12:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-arizona/6978/5 "2007-11-29T12:48:30Z")

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Androstadienone and Androstenone are two differant things. 🙂

Androstenone is in Turn Up The Heat, Ammo, Raw power. Its a sexually aggressive pheromone.

Androstadienone is [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Androstadienone, A-1 Its more calming, trusting at ease effect.

There is also androteRONE which is in Instant Gentleman and A314 which is a more mature, trusting respectful kind of vibe.

Pheromax hasnt been reported on much here. It would not be my first choice or my second. Dont get me wrong I have products from all over the net but for me and alot of other people Androtics products work best.

If you interested in Androsterone I would get A314.

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> but what do you mean by buffering it? do you mean mix it with those other products?

No dont mix them. Buffering just means to use a social mone to make another more intense mone more wearable for you. You can spray one on then just spray the other over it let it dry down and cover it or not with your own cologne. If you really get interested in mones you can think about compositing mixes but its really not advised for those just starting out.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-arizona/6978/6 "2007-11-29T13:03:53Z")

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Welcome TDubb,

I think that the successes you saw from Turn Up The Heat users were mostly either with women they were already involved with, or when used in combination with other pheros to buffer the raw sexual power, such as Instant Shine, Instant Openness, and even [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) - which by the way contains the Androstadienone ([Molecule A – Carefree Youthful Uplifting Pheromone - Pheromone Labs](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/)) you were looking for.

I use Instant Female Magic anytime I wear any pheros, and find that it just puts women more at easy and comfortable around me. Many of the men say that it has a self-effect of depression and wear it in places like the back of the neck where those self-effects will be less pronounced. I have not had the depressant effects though, and have actually sprayed it directly under my nose when I was at home alone, just to see if I was going to react to it.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-arizona/6978/7 "2007-11-29T23:51:29Z")

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Welcome to the forum.

In the interest of getting all Gift certificates caught up today I am just stopping by to let you know yours is on its way.

Also it sounds as if all the bases have been pretty well covered.
