# Hello From California

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-california/31003>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [July 26, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-california/31003 "2009-07-26T06:13:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![ray\_b](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ray_b/32/171_2.png) [@ray\_b](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ray_b)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-california/31003/1 "2009-07-26T06:13:32Z")

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Hi: I’m Ray. I recently heard a recorded lecture by the late Terrence McKenna speaking about a completely different subject ( Novelty Theory ) and he mentioned [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) as an aside comment , I found the comment so interesting I had to look into this more and I found this web site. As a salesman I have always been interested in discovering ways to better communicate with clients and I think this might be it. I have been a salesman all my adult life and sometimes I just “stink” at it ( when I have to sell on a commission basis ). Hey maybe I’m throwing off the wrong pheromones under pressure and I really don’t smell successful, confident or trustworthy. Do “good” pheromones cover up “bad” naturally occurring pheromones ? If I want people to buy what I am selling what product should I be looking at ? The way I look at it , and I have used NLP techniques as well, If I cannot communicate; that is the client is distracted by the wrong emotion or feeling on his part , then the sales process is derailed and does not serve either of us. Comments anyone ?

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-california/31003/2 "2009-07-26T07:12:09Z")

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Hi Ray,

Welcome to the forum.

Tell us more about your personality. Are you shy or outgoing? How old are you?  
We need more information for us to give you better recommendation.  
By giving this information, you will also qualify for the gift certificate.

Waiting for your reply.  
Cheers

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 7:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-california/31003/3 "2009-07-26T07:14:39Z")

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Hey, welcome to the forum. You’re at the right place for the best pheromones around.

Since you’re a salesman I would imagine the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) to be of a great value to you. Products like IS, IO, and IH. IS to make you seem vibrant, confident, and also to add a sparkle to your selling techniques. And IO to make you approachable and also to serve as a social ice breaker, with IH making you trustworthy and making people comfortable around you like they’ve known you for awhile.

> [@ray\_b](#):
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> Hi: I’m Ray. I recently heard a recorded lecture by the late Terrence McKenna speaking about a completely different subject ( Novelty Theory ) and he mentioned pheromones as an aside comment , I found the comment so interesting I had to look into this more and I found this web site. As a salesman I have always been interested in discovering ways to better communicate with clients and I think this might be it. I have been a salesman all my adult life and sometimes I just “stink” at it ( when I have to sell on a commission basis ). Hey maybe I’m throwing off the wrong pheromones under pressure and I really don’t smell successful, confident or trustworthy. Do “good” pheromones cover up “bad” naturally occurring pheromones ? If I want people to buy what I am selling what product should I be looking at ? The way I look at it , and I have used NLP techniques as well, If I cannot communicate; that is the client is distracted by the wrong emotion or feeling on his part , then the sales process is derailed and does not serve either of us. Comments anyone ?

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**Author:** ![AlexanderG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexanderg/32/891_2.png) [@AlexanderG](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AlexanderG)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 8:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-california/31003/4 "2009-07-26T08:07:54Z")

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Greetings Ray.

Have a good read of [The Mens Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mens-pheromone-guide-revised-6-15/12168)and let us know if you have any more questions.

Be sure to tell us more about your personality and the results you want - this will ensure you receive the gift certificate that Androtics kindly provides.

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**Author:** ![ray\_b](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ray_b/32/171_2.png) [@ray\_b](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ray_b)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-california/31003/6 "2009-07-26T18:28:25Z")

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Hi jamesbonded;

You asked me about my personality. Well MY perception of my personality is different depending upon if it is my work personality or my home personality. At work I am considered the nicest salesperson and generally the most respected. I usually have the highest sales volume. I know a lot about the product I sell and I seem to be able to read people very well. It has been noted by others that I seem to be able to perceive peoples emotions and thoughts ( not psychic but intuitive ) long before any of the other salespeople and this lets me adjust my presentation or sales dialogue “on the fly”. ( So maybe I READ pheromones well ) BUT I don’t seem to be able to read everybody , I don’t seem to get the chance. I come off as confident to my co-workers but have a feeling of inadequacy always nagging. I worked in commission sales “Real Estate” in the 80’s and “Advertising” in the 90’s and really stunk at it. When I am in an industry that could really make me some money I do not do well. I currently am in the home improvement sector of the Construction Industry and am doing well but it is a salaried job and I can barely make ends meet. At home, I am happily married with two daughters. I am not interested in the pheronomes from a “sexual” point of view ( except with my wife ). In personal relationships I am laking. We don’t have a lot of friends. My wife is very shy. Both our daughters are adopted. My older daughter, we adopted at age 2-1/2 has had been diagnosed and treated for bi-polar and autism, she is 20 now and going to community college. I tended to , while my daughters were young, to see less of friends as people were afraid of my older daughter in that they did not know how to relate to her so friends became less and less. It became impossible to get babysitters and our social life crumbled. My younger 16 year old daughter is agoraphobic and has few friends. My wife can’t work anymore, she just had a stroke at age 47 !. Wow !  
If you asked me what my fear was I would say it was "waiting for the other shoe to drop " That is to say when I go into a situation where I do not have a good read on the matter , whether at work or at home , I get nervous as to what the answer might be and that seems to ooze out of my pores.

So what am I looking for ? The “scientist” in me certainly hopes that we all just smell bad. In one of Terence McKenna’s lectures he mentioned that some people had bad pheromones and that after repeated weird reactions from people the people with bad pheromones became weird. ( He actually used more scientific terms ) Is it a " chicken or the egg" proposition. Do weird people have weird pheromones or do people with bad pheromones BECOME weird and unlikable ?

I would like to see if pheromones can help me be a better salesperson and put me in a position where people just can’t wait to hand me their money.

I know that money won’t solve my problems but more money will get me better options to choose from.

I would like to see my relationship with my wife improved so she continues to see me as a confidant man as I get older.

It would be interesting to see if I smelled more confident whether my family life would be better and my wife and daughters would enjoy life more.

Hopefully waiting.

Ray\_B

> [@jamesbonded](#):
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> Hi Ray,
> 
> Welcome to the forum.
> 
> Tell us more about your personality. Are you shy or outgoing? How old are you?  
> We need more information for us to give you better recommendation.  
> By giving this information, you will also qualify for the gift certificate.
> 
> Waiting for your reply.  
> Cheers

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**Author:** ![ray\_b](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ray_b/32/171_2.png) [@ray\_b](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ray_b)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-california/31003/7 "2009-07-26T18:47:25Z")

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> [@andrew88777](#):
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> Hi Ray! From reading your post I noticed you say you haves been in sales all of your adult life. I assume you have the skill set then. You also indicate that you have problems when you are selling on a commission basis. Do you have an issue selling on a commission basis? Is there some sort of fear that you have held on to? Is there a lack of confidence because you now feel you cannot do it? It seems to me that maybe the A314 would be the best choice for you. It instills trust and respect. It also has the ability to raise your confidence levels some for you. Phero’s can do many things but it all comes down to you. YOU make everything happen. They can open the door but you have to step through it yourself. I also work in a sales type situation and also get a commission. I have been using A314 for 2 months now. My commission checks have gone up $1000 dollars each month. I love A314. Read the description for it. it states on the Androtics website  
> "_Feel it where it counts: in your wallet_\*\*
> 
> If you’re looking to get ahead at work or in sales, then you absolutely must try Alpha A314. The trust & leadership effect easily helps you to move ahead professionally, and definitely gives you the potential to increase your income.
> 
> A314 is turning out to be the favorite [pheromone](javascript:void(0)😉 product ever for professionals, from any manufacturer. Salesmen, in particular, give us compliments on A314 that even we have trouble believing!
> 
> While your results may vary, **for professional use we guarantee that A314 will be worth at least 10 times what you paid for it, or you money back. "**  
> 😛  
> LOL that sold me and its very true. In 2 months its been worth 28 times what I paid for it. Plus all of the other benefits it provides that are not monetary.

Hi andrew88777;

Thanks for the reply. The interesting thing that I note on my sales career is that when I am selling in a relaxed situation ( one in which I get a paycheck guaranteed every two weeks ) I do really well , but it does not pay well. I took no risk and it is the boss that gets the money. When I do take the risk and use what everybody agrees were good techniques I seem to get stares and uncomfortable looks from prospective clients. One of the things that you may find interesting is that in a few situations between 1996 and 2001 I was actually kept on and given a “draw” , minimal as it was, because the owner of the business wanted me to teach the sales techniques to other newer and older salespeople that were “taking off” with strategies that I taught them. So I KNOW that I KNOW my stuff so it has to be SOMETHING else.

Ray\_B

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-california/31003/9 "2009-07-27T21:50:19Z")

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Hey there Ray and welcome to PheromoneTalk forum. I’m happy you listened to that speech and found us. He is a pretty cool guy and has a lot of value.

I have to agree with andrew8777 as he has offered really class valuable advice. I would definetely go with the A314, supposed to be back in stock mid-week, and add in some IShine, IH and just a tad of IO. This way you are the ALPHA trust-worthy guy who makes your customer smile. Surely a winning mix that can increase your commissions.

Here’s one that you don’t even have to work for: I am sending you a $25 GC to your email. Welcome

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**Author:** ![ray\_b](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ray_b/32/171_2.png) [@ray\_b](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ray_b)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-california/31003/10 "2009-07-27T23:18:44Z")

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Steve:

Thanks for the response AND thanks for the GC !

Ray\_B

> [@Steve](#):
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> Hey there Ray and welcome to PheromoneTalk forum. I’m happy you listened to that speech and found us. He is a pretty cool guy and has a lot of value.
> 
> I have to agree with andrew8777 as he has offered really class valuable advice. I would definetely go with the A314, supposed to be back in stock mid-week, and add in some IShine, IH and just a tad of IO. This way you are the ALPHA trust-worthy guy who makes your customer smile. Surely a winning mix that can increase your commissions.
> 
> Here’s one that you don’t even have to work for: I am sending you a $25 GC to your email. Welcome
