# Hello from Canada

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [July 11, 2009, 12:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605 "2009-07-11T12:50:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![maddog4649](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@maddog4649](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maddog4649)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 12:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/1 "2009-07-11T12:50:19Z")

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HI im 24, male from canada, first time i heard bout this [pheromone](https://a314.com/) thing was while i was rewatching ocean’s 13, went to google it and proceeded to spend the next few hours deciding what to buy, i know there’s a lot of bogus sites for this kind of products, till i came across this forum. This place has a pretty good vibe going on and some good reviews about product satisfaction and high service quality. I have therefore already made my first purchase of ammo and tuth after hours of intensive research and heck i hope it works so i could use my free $25 on the next purchase. Highly anticipating my first purchase!

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**Author:** ![fantisto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fantisto/32/2102_2.png) [@fantisto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fantisto)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 1:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/2 "2009-07-11T13:04:17Z")

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Hey maddog, welcome to Pherotalk forum.

You were right, here is a great place for those who want to learn/research more about pheromone as well as for those who want to give it a try. Androtics is the top [pheromone research](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and development company. We all satisfy with the quality of products and greatest customer service satisfication.

Hmmmm, great to hear that you have made a first purchase with some great products like ammo and TUTH. Hope you will enjoy your pheromone journey.

If you may need the $25 gift card, please simply tell us abit more about your personality and what you hope pheromone to help you. please read the first link at my signature block below about how could you qualify for the GC.  
Normally we need to know whether you are shy/outgoing? How you react to new people? And your purpose for using pheromone.

Once we get the requested information, our member here can recommend you some products that suit your personality and target usages.

Waiting your reply.  
Have fun,  
Fantisto

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**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/3 "2009-07-11T14:45:16Z")

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Hey maddog, welcome to the forum!

Ammo is an amazing product, you will be pleasantly surprised by its results. The pheromone part on oceans 13 is a bit farfetched though, to find out more, check out the link “What [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) can and can’t do” in my signature below. If you have any questions let us know, we are here to help! best of luck,

-mco;

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/4 "2009-07-11T15:37:24Z")

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Hi Maddog, tell us a little about yourself.

Are you shy or more the outgoing type? Do you have any expectations from phero usage, or are you just seeing what will happen? Do you have a specific target in mind?

GLad you’re here. Hope you really enjoy the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH, they’re both great products.

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**Author:** ![maddog4649](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@maddog4649](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maddog4649)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/5 "2009-07-11T18:13:35Z")

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ok, i am sort of anti social, why i wanna achieve with these products is to feel more confident about myself and to interact with people more, im kinda very self conscious and i read that these products shouldnt be used for “lone wolf” like me, that’s what i’m trying to change,i don’t like want to be like that, i wanna be more positive. I can read signals pretty well, but the thing is even if im sure im getting the right signals, i don’t dare to initiate( lots of wasted chances over the years zzz). That’s why i bought ammo, not just for attracting but boosting my self confidence and also it had lots of great reviews, well for tuth its for when i have girls over, should i use tuth with ammo? as i read it might instigate aggression towards me. I really really hope it works for me, cause sometimes i tend to overdo things, im scared i might od, so when my stuff arrives, gonna read the instructions carefully on how to apply them…

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/6 "2009-07-11T19:20:27Z")

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Application is not hard, just spray the pheros on a pulse point, or warm area such as wrists, neck, chest, etc. Please avoid the armpit and groin regions as the moisture and bacteria in those areas will turn these lovely smelling pheros into very bad BO in short order.

I don’t think you’ll get instructions with your pheromones, I never did. Just do this: apply one spray at first, then go out and interact with people. Try to be observant and monitor their reactions, note to yourself anything that is out of the ordinary. Then the next day try two sprays, then another day try three, and so forth. You will get to a point where you will notice positive reactions from people, then when you increase the dosage you will not get good reactions anymore. That is the point at which you have OD’d.

Don’t get worried by that term, OD. This is not like with an illegal substance, there is no danger to you at all. It just means that you have exceeded your optimal dosage, or ‘sweet spot’, and the pheros are too overwhelming to respond to.

Also, both pheros that you ordered are -none based and if you do not wash the area of application well, the -none can adhere to your skin, causing a buildup over time. A shower should be sufficient to remove it, although some have good results from hydrogen peroxide as well. If you spray the phero to your clothing or hair it can be hard to remove.

Take a deep breath, plunge in and have fun! You won’t be a ‘lone wolf’ for very long if you’re wearing Ammo, it’s very attractive.

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**Author:** ![maddog4649](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@maddog4649](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maddog4649)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/7 "2009-07-11T19:24:01Z")

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That soundsa wesome, cant wait for mine to get here, thanks for your advice!

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**Author:** ![fantisto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fantisto/32/2102_2.png) [@fantisto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fantisto)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/8 "2009-07-12T14:46:53Z")

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> [@maddog4649](#):
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> ok, i am sort of anti social, why i wanna achieve with these products is to feel more confident about myself and to interact with people more, im kinda very self conscious and i read that these products shouldnt be used for “lone wolf” like me, that’s what i’m trying to change,i don’t like want to be like that, i wanna be more positive. I can read signals pretty well, but the thing is even if im sure im getting the right signals, i don’t dare to initiate( lots of wasted chances over the years zzz).

For your next order, I would recommend you grabbing some social products such as IO and ISHine. IO help to break the ice and reduce space between you and people, making people want to talk to you more, yet you also become more chatty. IShine give your confidence and charima a boost, and making you a guy that people feel good and love to be around.

IG also a great standalone product, it gives you a confident cool alpha guy vibe, people will give you more respect and you will feel a boost of confident wearing this.

> [@maddog4649](#):
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> That’s why i bought ammo, not just for attracting but boosting my self confidence and also it had lots of great reviews, well for tuth its for when i have girls over, should i use tuth with ammo? as i read it might instigate aggression towards me. I really really hope it works for me, cause sometimes i tend to overdo things, im scared i might od, so when my stuff arrives, gonna read the instructions carefully on how to apply them…

First of all, you should try one product individually at a time in order to find your sweet spot (the dosage to have the pheromone to work effectively on you). Once you are experienced with each product individually, you can go on to mixing several products together as needed.

Hmmmm, and for now I would not recommend mixing ammo and TUTH together as it may cause OD as they are all -none products. Though everything is worth a try when you are more experienced.

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**Author:** ![maddog4649](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@maddog4649](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maddog4649)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/9 "2009-07-12T15:58:50Z")

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Yes i understand mixing is a job to be left to the experienced, i just wanna do some trial and errors and observe some responses before buying other products. so for now i shouldn’t mix ammo and tuth yet? even if im having a girl over?

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/10 "2009-07-12T18:30:51Z")

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Maddog, you can do anything you want, of course. That is the joy of it all, isn’t it?

There are two reasons to recommend against mixing Ammo and TUTH. The first is that they are both -none based and will compound the effect of the other. If you OD on -none you will not get the attractive, masculine effect you’re wanting. You may get a horn-dog vibe, or you may go beyond that and become so pheromonally obnoxious that people tune you out and ignore you. That can be very discouraging if you’re not expecting it.

The other reason is that you don’t have any experience with either product. It takes several uses to find your ‘sweet spot’ and learn what can happen and how to work it to your advantage. This needs to be done with one product at a time, otherwise you’ll never really know what to attribute to each phero. It sounds like it will be impossibly long before you’re done testing them and can play with mixes, but it doesn’t really take that long. And it is time well spent.

Now, the truth of the matter is that very few of us had the self control to go through this process as I’ve described it. Most people, when they got their pheros, put on a little of everything and then tried to figure out what happened when people they encountered seemed confused by that muddy mix. It is affectionately called the ‘newbie baptism.’ Do that if you want. It can be fun. But the consumer line pheros are already pre-mixed to give optimum results for specific situations. They work very well singly.

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**Author:** ![maddog4649](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@maddog4649](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maddog4649)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/11 "2009-07-12T18:38:50Z")

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> [@moonwhisper](#):
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> Maddog, you can do anything you want, of course. That is the joy of it all, isn’t it?
> 
> There are two reasons to recommend against mixing Ammo and TUTH. The first is that they are both -none based and will compound the effect of the other. If you OD on -none you will not get the attractive, masculine effect you’re wanting. You may get a horn-dog vibe, or you may go beyond that and become so pheromonally obnoxious that people tune you out and ignore you. That can be very discouraging if you’re not expecting it.
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> The other reason is that you don’t have any experience with either product. It takes several uses to find your ‘sweet spot’ and learn what can happen and how to work it to your advantage. This needs to be done with one product at a time, otherwise you’ll never really know what to attribute to each phero. It sounds like it will be impossibly long before you’re done testing them and can play with mixes, but it doesn’t really take that long. And it is time well spent.
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> Now, the truth of the matter is that very few of us had the self control to go through this process as I’ve described it. Most people, when they got their pheros, put on a little of everything and then tried to figure out what happened when people they encountered seemed confused by that muddy mix. It is affectionately called the ‘newbie baptism.’ Do that if you want. It can be fun. But the consumer line pheros are already pre-mixed to give optimum results for specific situations. They work very well singly.

So you’re saying i should use each standalone product, and just that for different kind of situations? Like for normal everyday use i should use ammo and try to find my sweet spot, and if i go clubbing or if i know im gonna get some, then i should just use tuth alone and slowly tune it to my own sweet spot again, but never mix these 2 together until i’m more experienced? If that is what it is, it sounds great cause it not so confusing. Once i get consistent results with either one of those that i’d bought, im gonna shop for more, now im still a student so no point getting A314 or other work related pheros

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/12 "2009-07-12T18:42:26Z")

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I think that makes the most sense when it comes to figuring out what works for you. Everyone is different, though, and all the advice in the world isn’t worth beans if it doesn’t work for you. Think of it as an adventure, sometimes things go along swimmingly, sometimes you run into a snag or two. But you don’t give up, just keep on trying until you get it figured out.

I think you’re going to have a lot of fun with this.

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**Author:** ![maddog4649](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@maddog4649](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maddog4649)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/13 "2009-07-12T18:46:03Z")

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> [@moonwhisper](#):
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> I think that makes the most sense when it comes to figuring out what works for you. Everyone is different, though, and all the advice in the world isn’t worth beans if it doesn’t work for you. Think of it as an adventure, sometimes things go along swimmingly, sometimes you run into a snag or two. But you don’t give up, just keep on trying until you get it figured out.
> 
> I think you’re going to have a lot of fun with this.

thanks man, thats very reassuring to hear. I know it works differently for everyone, just hope i find my own spot soon, summer break soon and i gonna meet lots of people, would be a great time to try it out. I’ll bring it wherever i go, and respray every few hours or so, cause im going to Singapore and humidity is really high there…

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-canada/30605/14 "2009-07-20T00:17:39Z")

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Welcome to Pherotalk MadDog!

You certainly got some right on advice. I am sorry for holding back your excitement.

I won’t delay you any further.

Your GC is on it’s way!
