# Hello from Germany. Pheromones For My Pals... for Attraction, Dating. Both M/mid-40s **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [March 18, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777 "2016-03-18T15:52:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PetersWish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PetersWish](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PetersWish)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/1 "2016-03-18T15:52:51Z")
Hello everybody, my name is Peter from Germany, I’m 45y old and I have a problem. Sounds a bit like the start of a meeting of a psycho group. 😃 If I continue the story, I think you will be surprised. I’m here not for me, but for my friends. I have 2 close friends, 45 and 46, that I know for about 27 years now. In this period of time they never had girlfriends, both of them are not gay and like females. They live about 10 miles away from me and are really really nice guys. Both have good jobs, cars, their own houses and no debt. The only problem is, they don’t have women. They are no model guys - me and my wife describe them as “average looking down-to-earth people, just normal”, you can have a lot of fun with them and also have good conversations. It’s hard for me to see, that they are still single. I can’t imagine why the situation is like this. Whatever they do, it’s not working for them. We tried several things, but NOTHING in the end was leading to a goal. They are not shy when WE are together, but they can’t make the final step when they meet a girl. Sounds strange, but it’s fact. We are running out of ideas, what else we can do - the situation is in a way humiliating and I feel sorry for these true friends. When I was at my fitness center last week I told a physiotherapist during my workout about it and she said to me joking: “you know the oceans movie? they need [pheromones](https://a314.com/)” We started laughing together and she tried to give me more advice for them. During my drive home I thought about what she said and finally at home, I started to google for “pheromones” and the search dropped me here??.. I have no idea if pheromones are a solution for a problem like this - maybe, maybe not. I’ve read lots of threads in the last days and I finally decided to order some stuff. One of my friends birthday is in on the 4th of april, so I hope to get the “stuff” in this period of time sent to Germany. End of the story - I hope it’s written understandable for you. The last english lesson I had was 25 years ago at school. Peter ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/2 "2016-03-18T16:39:58Z")
Hi peterswish, Wilkommen to this forum. You sure came to the right place for quality pheromones, because there is a lot of bogus products out here on the web. Your english is not bad at all, not worse than mine at least 🙂. Ok, so if I sum it up, the guy are not antisocials, they are not shy by nature, but they lack the guts to approach ladies and close the deal. So. Here’s what we’ll do. We’ll make them more approachable with Instant Shine. This will boost their mood as well as other people’s. Get them some Ammo. Maybe consider the World edition in Germany, it smells less strong than the regular version but contains the same pheromones. This product will send a charming and sexy vibe to the ladies. This will give them flirting self-confidence as well. If you feel they need a boost in basic self-confidence to approach people, get [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). This one gives a dependable guy and very manly aura. Plus it makes one less sensible to rejection in a flirting context. I would add Instant Openess if ice-breaking with strangers is a problem, it will help generate tons of small conversations and defintiely help with the approach. Start with that and it should help at least date some ladies. And what’s great is that they can be each other’s wingman (lol). You will be eligible to a 25$ gift certificate to help you with your first buy. ---
**Author:** ![Spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Spectrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spectrum)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/3 "2016-03-18T16:58:16Z")
Hello , welcome to the forum. A314 is gor them . Use it with AMMO heavy vrrsion and IS. Read more about these here on the forum. ---
**Author:** ![PetersWish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PetersWish](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PetersWish)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/4 "2016-03-18T17:47:38Z")
Hi Conjurator, thanks for your reply! It’s hard for me to describe the problem of a friend. Really strange for me and furthermore in “english” makes it even harder. You’re right, they are not shy people. They know how to flirt to a certain extent, so speaking to girls even in a funny way to make a girl smile, does work perfectly. It’s just the final part that’s lacking here. I don’t know how to say it exactly. Both had several dates, but no kiss at all. Sympathy on both sides yes, but that’s it. It’s crazy. The last date (don’t know if it’s the right word, it was an invitation to dinner) one of them had, I was 1000% sure it was a perfect match. Both said they think it could be something serious in the future, but in the end it was over before it started? I asked them to try it with a contact ad here in Germany, but both of them refused to do it. To a certain extent I understand it, they live in a small village (about 400 people) and don’t want to be the trash talk there. Maybe they are too nice to girls, but being mean is no alternative. It’s a crappy situation. Peter ---
**Author:** ![PetersWish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PetersWish](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PetersWish)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/5 "2016-03-18T18:54:08Z")
Thanks Spectrum for your reply. There are two A314 items in the shop. Which one do you mean? The normal one or the “Clon”-One?? I don’t know the difference by now, the price is the same. I thought it’s more for experienced users, but maybe order it right now, because of the double DHL costs with a second order. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/6 "2016-03-19T00:39:57Z")
A314, go for the one at the top. You can ignore the other one, it’s not an item. A314 is ok for everyone to use. But that’s not the easiest flirting tool to master in my opinion. From what I have suggested above, you can forget [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) based on the description you’ve given. So IS / IG / Ammo 🙂. Thanks for the additional info and you’re well on your way to getting your gc. It will be sent by email by one of the forum moderators. It usually takes a day or two. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/7 "2016-03-19T18:06:34Z")
Hi Peter, Welcome to the site. IMO the best way to go here is the **Men’s Ultimate Kit** as they would get everything to try. Do your 2 friends have computers? I ask because of each of them registered they may each qualify for their own $25GC. I must warn you ahead of time Androtics does have a security screen in place to detect when people try to get multiple GC, I know that is not the case but just letting you know. They would each be better of if they made their own Intro and got a GC. The kit is really the way to go, but a few like to get a few products to try before they are all in so for them I suggest. **Ammo** this is for attraction and dating. Very balanced and can be worn just about anywhere. Being over 40 2X or Heavy Ammo is even better. The reason being is it is a nice scent but to much can be overbearing. So you can use less sprays and get more pheromones this way. **IS** This one will boost their confidence and put everyone in a god mood. They will come off as happy, vibrant, healthy men that women will be drawn to. If anything I think the above 2 will help the most by far to start with. If they are on a budget you could order both in the Bigger 30ML bottles and they could try sharing the bottles as the bigger bottles get around 200 sprays. ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/8 "2016-03-20T15:50:46Z")
Welcome to PheromoneTalk, Peter! Your friends are lucky to have you. I’ll agree with the A314 recommendation. Make them wear it everyday in order for the people around them to recognize the change in their vibes and adapt to it. The self effects will also help them. IH is a good partner. Your intro GC by the way, is now in your email. 🙂 Happy Pheroing! 🙂 ======== _ **Disclosure:** I’ve edited your thread title from **“Hello from Germany”** to **“Hello from Germany. Pheromones For My Pals… for Attraction, Dating. Both M/mid-40s”** for topic clarity and forum readability. It’ll also generate more “reads” to your thread. If you want to opt-out simply let me know. Thank you!_ ---
**Author:** ![PetersWish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PetersWish](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PetersWish)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/9 "2016-03-21T04:18:04Z")
Hi to all the posters and thanks for all your replies and tips!!! @justintime469: Yes, they have both computers. In theory they could both set their orders for such products. But there is a reason why they can’t do it. They both hardly understand and speak english. Google translate is nice, but not always fully understandable. So in the end ? if the pheromones work - I think I will have to do future orders again in my name for them. The 25$ gift card number I received yesterday (Thank YOU!!) will be used for this order and of course I will not misuse this service - I promise. And if I’m allowed, I will report possible successes or failings here in the forum. @all I read all your proposals here in this thread and decided to order the following products: A314, Ammo Cologne and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) plus the Gift Service! I hope I don’t have to pay extra money to the german customs and that the package arrives before the 4th of April. Let’s cross the fingers… Big Thanks for all of You for your kind help 🙂 Peter ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/10 "2016-03-21T13:06:05Z")
I hope you’ll give some of the products a try too 🙂. Welcome aboard. If you or your friends need support, start a journal in the men’s section and tell us about your experiences and questions there, experienced users will be there to provide the best support possible. Auf Wiedersehen. ---
**Author:** ![PetersWish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PetersWish](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PetersWish)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/11 "2016-03-21T15:03:38Z")
One more problem 🙂 The order is placed, unfortunately I didn’t change the Shipping Address State and Country, because I was thinking that the billing address is automatically the shipping address. On the sent invoice the Shipping address State is California and the Country the United States. That’s NOT correct! I hope it is possible to change it to Bavaria and Germany. Sorry for the extra trouble, but it’s the first order, so please be patient with me 🙂 I’ve sent an email to the orderdept, but get an error and a message the mail cannot be delivered - strange ☹ Peter ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/12 "2016-03-21T15:21:39Z")
Hi PetersWish, Did you send that email to [support@androtics.com](mailto:support@androtics.com) ? It should work. Or call the phone number. We cannot help with such issues on the forum. Only customer service can. ---
**Author:** ![PetersWish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PetersWish](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PetersWish)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2016, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/13 "2016-03-21T15:37:31Z")
Hi Conjuratot, no, I’ve sent it to the email which was on the invoice: [orderdept@androticsdirect.com](mailto:orderdept@androticsdirect.com) Now I’ve tried the one you gave me. Let’s see… Peter ---
**Author:** ![PetersWish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PetersWish](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PetersWish)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/14 "2016-03-24T14:12:33Z")
Just wanted to say thank you. Within 3 days the delivery arrived here in Germany. That’s impressive. Thumbs up for the amazing support! Peter ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/15 "2016-03-24T14:28:34Z")
Glad to see you received your products. Looking forward to reading about your friends’ experiences (and why not your own too) with the products. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 1:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/16 "2016-03-25T13:43:37Z")
I am also looking forward to the experiences to and if you have any questions about anything feel free to message me or some of the other members as we are always willing to help out. ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany-pheromones-for-my-pals-for-attraction-dating-both-m-mid-40s/65777/17 "2017-03-31T04:15:56Z")
Hi! I see you’ve already placed an order and used your GC. Hope you are having fun with your sweet molecules. 🙂 Don’t forget to share your test results, my friend. You can create your own journal [here](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-pheromone-advice-tricks-and-tips/men-s-journals/22) to keep notes of your dosages and usages, plus its different effects, including those you consider a “failure”. Journal helps a lot. It’s your own phero time machine. 🙂 Also, you should drop some feedback about your p\_\_ usage. We would love to hear how those precious molecules worked out for you. You must send your feedback at [feedback@androtics.com](mailto:feedback@androtics.com) (Always enter p# in Subject Line). You might just qualify for a Reporting User status by doing so. 🙂 For further questions, you can also create your own help-seeking thread [here](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-pheromone-advice-tricks-and-tips/45). Expert [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) users usually browse this area. 🙂 There are new perfume oils now in the store that may suit your needs too by the way. You might wanna check it out. Thanks! Chat soon!