# Hello from Germany! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 31, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590 "2009-01-31T14:10:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nightmoves5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@Nightmoves5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nightmoves5)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/1 "2009-01-31T14:10:46Z")
Hi everyone, how’s it going? I’m a 35 yr old male living in Germany and am very happy to join the forum! As I’m 35 now and starting to ‘think’ I’m getting older even though 30 is the new 20 I’ve decided to take my game up a notch or 2 with some of the tremendous products being talked about and offered here! At the same time I’d be grate ful for a good combination which would attract younger girls in the 18-25 age range…I look younger than I am but would still like some tips and some general info from those of you who have carried field testing and achieved some good results in this age bracket… Great to be on board and looking forward to a lively exchange 🙂! Happy hunting…Nightmoves5 ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/2 "2009-01-31T14:15:29Z")
Hi and welcome to the forum! It’s great that you have told us a little bit about yourself, but can you tell us a bit about your personality? Are you outgoing, shy? You mentioned that you want to use phero’s to attract girls, preferably a bit younger…is that the main objective or do you plan to use phero’s for other situations too? General social situations, work etc? Tell us a bit more about yourself and what you are hoping to get out of using phero’s and we’ll be able to help point you in the right direction phero-wise…oh, and it’ll get you qualified for the gift certificate too 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/3 "2009-01-31T14:24:35Z")
Hey Nightmoves, welcome to the forums! If you’re interested in looking into meeting younger women, you should really talk to Steve. He can’t keep them off of him with a stick! But i digress… Well, if you’re looking for the younger women, i don’t think you’ll need a product with too much -none (sexual pheromone) in it. Alot of -none tends to scare the younger ones away and attract more mature women. So i’d recommend [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant Shine, and Ammo. Instant Gentleman is an androsterone product that gives off a cool, smooth vibe to women without scaring them off as being too Alpha male. Still haven’t figured out how yet, but alot of older users have said it makes them seem younger, and vice versa. Instant Shine creates a “healthy glow” to the people around you, making them more upbeat and energetic, as well as giving most people the self-effect of a bit of confidence. Ammo IS a -none product, but it has been buffered very well with social pheromones to make it alot harder to overdose on the -none. It creates a sexual spark to conversations, helping keep you out of the dreaded “friend zone” and making sure they know you’re interested. If you’re looking to pick up younger women, i would recommend keeping it at single strength… if you’re interested in women you’re own age, you could go with double strength Ammo. It comes pre-mixed in a cologne coverscent, but that’s for the best since straight -none smells like body odor. Hope that helps you out! Good luck with your trials and keep us posted as to how they go! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![Nightmoves5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@Nightmoves5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nightmoves5)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/4 "2009-01-31T14:48:14Z")
Thanks so much for the fast replies Xiphoid and Mr. Feel Good! I’m not a shy person and am an athletic type with a healthy dose of self-confidence too. The thing is that in Germany it generally takes a lot of time and effort to break the ice and Germans are by nature not the most outgoing crowd, though nice. My interest in [pheromones](https://a314.com/) is primarily more about trying something new with regard to meeting girls, not so much in terms of getting more respect or social value…but I will try out the possibilities of making my fellow workers more relaxed and outgoing (we’re in Germany remember…LOL). I’ll keep everyone here informed about my progress and also the different combinations which worked for me! and I’ll definitely write Steve for some more tips, thanks a lot for the hint Mr. Feel Good! Have a great weekend and looking forward to a great time here on the forum :-)! ---
**Author:** ![Nightmoves5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@Nightmoves5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nightmoves5)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/5 "2009-01-31T14:58:57Z")
Interesting that [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) has a dual effect of making younger men seem older and older men seem younger though..I’ll definitely field test that with a younger friend and try to figuer out wherein lies the secret…very intriguing… ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/6 "2009-01-31T16:05:42Z")
Hi there, Welcome to the forum. As for your case, I will recommend IO, Shine and AMMO. IO will open up the girls and make them want to talk to you. You will enjoy lots of casual talks from girls and lots of opportunity too. Shine will make the environment lighter. People around you and yourself will be in good mood. It boost your confidence too. AMMO will add the attraction needed. It can make them attracted to you. It has a mild sexual attraction too. Have fun. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/7 "2009-01-31T16:16:03Z")
> [@Nightmoves5](#): > > The thing is that in Germany it generally takes a lot of time and effort to break the ice and Germans are by nature not the most outgoing crowd, though nice. I’m Swedish myself, and swedes are pretty similar in that regard…we can come across as quite stand-offish and generally don’t initiate conversations with people we don’t know 🙄 I have a feeling that [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) or Come Talk To Me2 might work better on the germans…I feel great self-effects of both, much more so than with IO. IH increases the _quality_ of conversation, whereas IO increases the _quantity._ With IH people will be more relaxed and likely to be totally open & honest…the conversations will be longer and there’s more closeness. CTTM2 is a mix of IO & IH, and I love it as it not only makes people comfortable and chatty, but it also makes them a lot more likely to approach you and initiate a conversation. I often combine CTTM2 and IH which works brilliantly 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nightmoves5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@Nightmoves5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nightmoves5)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/8 "2009-01-31T16:23:43Z")
Thanks so much Jamesbonded & Xiphoid! I’d been doing some reading on the forum and did indeed plan to use Instant Openness, Shine , Ammo and maybe [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). However Xiphoid’s insight with regard to the cultural ‘resistance’ to opening up might indeed make Instant Honesty better, especially as i just love good conversations and would choose quality over quantity any day! Maybe I’ll go for the combo in come talk to me mix 2…! Thanks again so much for the insights! This is such an interesting topic and i promise to keep you all up-to-date on the developments! ---
**Author:** ![Nightmoves5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@Nightmoves5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nightmoves5)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/9 "2009-01-31T16:32:21Z")
One short question though…would you recommend using Female Magic too or would [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)/Honest/CTTM2 be enough to get the ladies relaxed? ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/10 "2009-01-31T16:37:29Z")
IO/IH/CTTM2 are [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) to get the girls and yourself socializing – basically talking. IFM is to get them calm, comfortable and relax beside you. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/11 "2009-01-31T16:40:12Z")
> [@Nightmoves5](#): > > One short question though…would you recommend using Female Magic too or would Instant Openness/Honest/CTTM2 be enough to get the ladies relaxed? Hmmm… lemme make sure i understand. [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is the best for getting women to be relaxed and comfortable, but that doesn’t necessarily mean attracted or open. That’s why you see so many people posting “mixes” on the forum. Once they get a handle on what each product does, they try to layer them a bit and get the exact results they’re looking for. Sorry, got a bit off-track. CTTM2 is a great product, but i’ve found it doesn’t work exactly as well as either of the other two products… it lacks the steering pheromones that each of them has. However, it still is a good product, especially if you’re not looking to buy both of the others. But from what you’ve said, i would recommend either both of the Instants or getting CTTM2 to get both that initial chat going, as well as get some deeper conversation. And IFM is always great to throw in there, but usually you’ll need something sexual to spice it up then. Relaxed doesn’t get most girls attracted. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/12 "2009-01-31T16:49:06Z")
Hi Nightmoves, I have found IFM to be effective when combined with ammo and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). On it’s own, I think it is better for calming women down, in a mix it seems to encourage them to be sexually open ( Imagine dancing with your girl and having a Spanish woman grab your backside and try to kiss you! It happened to me when I was dancing with my wife) The only answer, I’m afraid is to try the products yourself, what works for MFG and JB doesn’t work for me, equally, what works for me may not work for you! ---
**Author:** ![Nightmoves5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@Nightmoves5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nightmoves5)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/13 "2009-01-31T17:16:05Z")
Thanks a lot 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nightmoves5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@Nightmoves5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nightmoves5)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/14 "2009-01-31T18:05:27Z")
Here’s the mix I’ve dcided to go with and see how it goes… Instant Shine (x2) heavy on OLs to project vitality and youth, lighten the mood Ammo being a mix of OL, RONE and NONE with enough of the first 2 to temper the RONE [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (x2) to get the chitchat going… Maybe IG to come across as cool and suave… we’ll see how it goes and I’ll report, thanks a lot for all the hints! ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/15 "2009-01-31T18:09:49Z")
> [@Nightmoves5](#): > > The thing is that in Germany it generally takes a lot of time and effort to break the ice and Germans are by nature not the most outgoing crowd, though nice. I know what you mean! 😃 Your mix sounds very good. Actually, that’s very similar to my everyday mix (2x IG, 3x CTTM, 3x IS, 1x Ammo). It doesn’t produce biiig hits, but sets a good, masculine, warm mood with a little sexual hint! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nightmoves5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@Nightmoves5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nightmoves5)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/16 "2009-01-31T18:25:19Z")
Hey Bubblebob! Glad to have someone in my shoes…countrywise and mixwise…great mix yourself! I’m starting out easy at first and will ramp up the NONEs as i get more experienced, not looking to overdose at this early stage :-)! we’ve got to find some special Germanator mix LOL btw…Berlin’s a great city! Enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![Nightmoves5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@Nightmoves5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nightmoves5)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/17 "2009-01-31T18:35:18Z")
BubbleBob, Just a short question, have you got any experience how IH, IO and CTTM compare? I’m looking to go for girls in the 18-25 bracket…someone wrote CTTM was a mix of both IH and IO, someone else that CTTM is not as potent as either of the others used alone. Kindly advise and thanks a lot-Nightmoves ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/18 "2009-02-01T01:34:29Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 My name is Tisha and I am the hostess here on PT. Glad you decided to join us. I see you have gotten great advice from our members and your all set on what you want to try out. Lets get you started 😉 **Your GC is on its way** If you have question or need help with the products let us know. Have Fun Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Nightmoves5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@Nightmoves5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nightmoves5)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 9:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-germany/25590/19 "2009-02-01T09:58:04Z")
Hi Tisha! Thanks so much for the gift certificate, I’m a student and really appreciate it! I’m a medical student though and will give as scientific an evaluation of the pheros performance as possible taking into consideration among many other things time of day (personal hormone levels) , body temperature (dissipation degree) and personal mood (affects hypothalamic RH emissions to a good degree) along with other parameters! Glad to be on board and all geared up for the ride…scientific and otherwise 😉 !