# Hello from LaLaLand

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-lalaland/26780>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [March 6, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-lalaland/26780 "2009-03-06T01:12:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Rocco2009](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Rocco2009](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rocco2009)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-lalaland/26780/1 "2009-03-06T01:12:56Z")

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\*\*Hey all,

I’ve been a quiet “semi-lurker” to these forums for a couple of months. I figured it is time to join.

I’m a 38 y.o. male from Los Angeles.

I’m here for a couple of reasons I suppose.

Firstly, my dating life lately can best be described as “bizarre”. In terms of looks, I fit in somewhere between average to very good looking. I say average, my women friends say very good looking. (But I think they are being polite). I’m pretty easy to get along with as well, so I’m at a little bit of a loss as to why my dates have all fallen flat on their face. Er, that doesn’t sound right. Let’s just say that things start, usually hot 'n heavy, and fizzle - quick. And every time it’s been a very strange ending (Even my friends have pointed this out) This has put a ding in my confidence, and I feel that the lack of confidence becomes a self-fulfilling cycle. Maybe 'mones can help to break that cycle.

Also, I’m just plain curious. I have tried “Realm” and had mixed results, but even at best the results were still minimal.

So - if anyone has any suggestions for mixes for the over 30 set - I’m open.

Ideally I’m looking for anything from the romantic to the beastly sexual. Ok. Wait. That didn’t sound right either.

Thanks for any help,  
Rocco

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**Author:** ![magnum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magnum/32/1423_2.png) [@magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magnum)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-lalaland/26780/2 "2009-03-06T01:22:39Z")

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hey rocco2009,

welcome to the forum!

please tell us a bit more about the problems you are encountering… is it difficult for you to keep rapport with the ladys or are conversations going well but the attraction fades? does this happen to you on first dates or later?

We also need some more info about your personality… are you introverted or outgoing? How do your friends characterize you?

So far i would say you can’t go wrong with AMMO and TUTH but we need more info to give you accurate advice…

have fun here  
magnum

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-lalaland/26780/3 "2009-03-06T01:29:46Z")

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Hey, another SoCaler!! Cool!!

Check out the Pub Crawl thread in the “Lounge”. Care to join us??

Jim

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**Author:** ![Rovot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rovot/32/5179_2.png) [@Rovot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rovot)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-lalaland/26780/4 "2009-03-06T03:02:28Z")

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Welcome!  
I agree with Magnum’s picks. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a cool pick to start off with.

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**Author:** ![Rocco2009](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Rocco2009](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rocco2009)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-lalaland/26780/5 "2009-03-06T07:38:20Z")

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> [@magnum](#):
>
> hey rocco2009,
> 
> welcome to the forum!
> 
> please tell us a bit more about the problems you are encountering… is it difficult for you to keep rapport with the ladys or are conversations going well but the attraction fades? does this happen to you on first dates or later?
> 
> We also need some more info about your personality… are you introverted or outgoing? How do your friends characterize you?
> 
> So far i would say you can’t go wrong with AMMO and TUTH but we need more info to give you accurate advice…
> 
> have fun here  
> magnum

Thanks Magnum!

OK - well, I can give you three recent examples:

A) The hot lawyer that I began flirting with over the phone and via text (originally I “met” her for professional reasons) that I eventually asked out for a drink. She said yes, and asked what took so long. We met. We hung out laughing and enjoying ourselves for four hours at a local bar (of her choosing). At the end I said I wanted to see her again and asked if I could call her. She said yes. A week later she informed that she was having an affair with a co-worker, and the guys wife kicked him out. He showed up on Lawyergirls doorstep with his bags. She took him in.  
Weird factor: Um…no thanks.

B) The beautiful Philippina that was looking for a boytoy. I responded to her and we began a heavy, hot, physical thing. She lived far away, so it took a couple of weeks to seal the deal. We were both ready for it, for sure. Aftward, I stopped hearing from her. I found out she got engaged with her ex like a week later, and she’s getting married this April. (I did call and wish her well)  
Weird factor: OK - um…she said…she…didn’t want a relationship…

C) The Boston Irish girl that had a crush on me for over a year. She decided to move to North Carolina last month, but we started seeing eachother before that. This was a little more like a romance than a play-mate. But we both knew she was leaving and decided to make the most of it. Three weeks into it (a week before she moved), she stopped. Cold. Said she didn’t want to start something just before leaving. This one was really weird in terms of hot and then cold. Haven’t talked to her since.  
Weird factor: That’s what I get for dating someone 15 years younger

So these are just a few. But a pretty good example. I’m not a conversation starter in a bar type. Mostly I meet women through friends or work. I have little to no experience “out in the wild” with picking up women. (i.e. shopping, bars, street fairs, dog fights or moonshine auctions. Ok - I kid about those last two. Just wanted make sure you’re paying attention)

My friends have used the following words to describe me:

Confident - almost cocky  
Sensitive  
Funny as f\*\*\* (ok, fine… I said that one)  
Overthinker  
Aloof at times

I appreciate any feedback, and thank you for replying so quickly.

Rocco

(Oh, and I think it would be hard not to have fun in here!)

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**Author:** ![magnum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magnum/32/1423_2.png) [@magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magnum)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-lalaland/26780/6 "2009-03-06T23:16:48Z")

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it seems like you have a behaviour pattern that you need to change to keep the girls interested… do you have good rapport/connection with your dates? do you think they enjoy themselves? Do you “play it save” or do you show them that you are interested sexually? - these are things to think about…

I know from experience that its very difficult to see yourself what you are doing wrong… so maybe ask your friends for a honest opinion about what they think you are doing wrong… i can’t tell you just from the examples you gave…

Pheromones can help you in keeping the attraction up but if there is a major problem you encounter repeatedly, pheromones are not THE ONLY solution to your problem… but they definately help…

To keep the attraction up and give you more confidence try AMMO and get some Honesty, too…  
Honesty is good for rapport and a feeling of connection, it can also help in making your conversations more meaningful and deeper…

If you (and or she) is nervous or feels uneasy during dates you could add some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) which will make both of you feel good and enjoy the moment more…

I would only advise you to use TUTH if you already are seeing the woman for some time and can keep her interest, but she won’t let you progress things in a sexual way… TUTH can arrouse her…but i think the other products will suit your needs better…

hope that helps  
magnum

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**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-lalaland/26780/7 "2009-03-06T23:42:02Z")

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Hey there,

I dated a 36 year old and a 35 year old last fall. TUTH was especially effective on them.

I see it being so effective that it can easily overpower whatever else you’re wearing it with. (I didn’t see any results from IH until I toned down my TUTH use.)

I can’t offer much advise for your hot 'n heavy then fizzle issue, but it sounds like you’re jumping into the sack a bit too quickly if you’re looking for a meaningful relationship. Whatever is getting in the way (for either of you) is apparently being introduced too quickly into the relationship so it becomes a major turnoff.

Remember that while Phero’s can help **their effects tend to shrink over time with repeat exposure.**

Take what I say with a grain of salt, because I tend to have different advice from most, but I would get

Ammo  
IO  
IH  
TUTH

Start off slow, wearing Ammo on the neck, IO on the wrists and elbows, and IH in your hair, back of neck, sides of neck. That mix served me well, your results vary.

Over time, swap Ammo for TUTH if you want to up the sexy factor by 10.  
Watch out for overdosing on TUTH!

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-lalaland/26780/8 "2009-03-07T02:43:22Z")

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Hello There

Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

Great advice from the members. I suggest you start with AMMO and Ishine. AMMO will increase your sex appeal. Ishine for a charismatic warmth and charm

If you have questions just ask. We look forward to your participation in the forum

**Your GC is on its way** 😉

Have fun

Tisha

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**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-lalaland/26780/9 "2009-04-08T19:22:55Z")

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Hey doll Welcome to the forum.🙂

It certainly sounds like you’ve had the typical LA run in with girls.\>.\< I’ll agree with wilks you may want to pace yourself and do your investigating first ESPECIALLY in LA.(although you may be trying to) However, from my perspective it sounds like you’ve run into a series of flakes or simply emotionally unavailable women in general.

The ammo is sweet I nabbed some for my boyfriend and fortunately for me he hasn’t realized how effective it is yet. 🙂 It also smells really nice.Instant honesty is somewhat of a cuddly phero for us I’m really liking the effects.Instant honesty w ammo followed up by turn up the heat at the right time likely would lead to fun from what I’ve dealt with so far and heard. TUTH is on my shopping list for later I didn’t want to cut him loose with it too fast.
