# Hello from London!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-london/23974>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [December 15, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-london/23974 "2008-12-15T17:19:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![NiNjAT00N](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dbc845/32.png) [@NiNjAT00N](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NiNjAT00N)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-london/23974/1 "2008-12-15T17:19:31Z")

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Hello!

I’ve used a pheromone product before, and got compliments that I smelled very nice from women, I also think he helped me get my first steady girlfriend!

I am now splitting up with her and looking to get back into the game, and have found this site that sells many different types so am intrigued.

So far reading up I think i’ll go for:

- A314 for work (wow never thought to use a pheromone for this!)
- Instant Shine (for confidence)
- Ammunition (all round for on the game)
- Turn Up the Heat (for closing)  
…and maybe one more when i get the $25 discount!

I’m not sure which it will be any recommendations?.. if anyone reads this?

I’d be looking for one to help out with opening starting conversation, and the following have caught my eye:

[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Come Talk To Me Mix 2.

Also is Ammunition really required, if I were to get an play with many other combinations, it seems to be a mix already?

Can’t wait to start trying them out! 🙂

NiNjAT00N

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-london/23974/2 "2008-12-15T17:25:52Z")

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

What [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) did you use before? Other than compements on the scent how did it work for you?

It sounds like you are planning on a pretty good order there - a good spread of products. The one product i really kike that you do not have listed is Instant Honesty. I would go for the 4X version if you can swing it. I pairs up very well with A314 for work and offsets the distance factor you can get wth the A314.

Remember:

A314 is primairy for work but pairs well with Ammo for social and romance purposes

TUTH is NOT good for general social or really even work purposes.

Ammo is a great all around product. I would definitely not bypass it. It has none in it but also some other steering pheros to help smooth it out. It sends out a I am interested message - but it is also smooth enough you can wear it to work, if there is someone there who catches your eye.

If you have any other questions we are happy to help.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-london/23974/3 "2008-12-15T17:45:20Z")

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Hey there NinjaToon and welcome to the forums! The Boss has given you about all the product related help you’ll ever need for your first order. The only thing i have to add is to clarify that the Come Talk to Me (mix 2) is a 50/50 combination of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty, but without the steering pheromones. So although a great product, sometimes having the individual products works better for some situations.

Now then, let’s get you qualified for that $25 gift certificate you wanted. We need to know a bit more about you, such as what kind of personality do you have, shy or outgoing? Where were you planning on using your pheromones? At work, in a pub, at the park? And who were you hoping to affect with them? Friends, family, co-workers, girls? All that info will help us tailor our advice to you, so that you get the best bang for your buck. Well, we’ll be waiting!

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**Author:** ![NiNjAT00N](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dbc845/32.png) [@NiNjAT00N](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NiNjAT00N)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-london/23974/4 "2008-12-15T19:18:12Z")

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Thanks for the really quick replies Bosshank & Mr Feel Good!

Ok a bit about myself…

I’m Male, 30, 6ft 4in, from London.

In groups of new people I am shy, but have learnt to battle against this as I have got older unfortunately primarly with the help of alcohol. Once i’ve met people a few times and relax, then my true personality shines through and I then become one of the more outgoing people in that circle of friends.

At work I am respected and considered one of the most social people there. I can command respect from my colleagues, but also sometimes resentment from competition within roles. I am friendly with everyone and have spoken to many out of work in confidentiality about their work related problems.

So far so good, but I felt that it has taken me till 30 to get this attributes, when 25 I was a mere fraction of what I am now in social confidence.

Now comes to the use of my pheromones… Women! I feel I would have no difficulty in getting into relationships with women I am friends with in my social circles infact a few have made this clear to me, unfortunately none of these I feel would be an advancement of the relationship I am currently leaving. I have been in this relationship for 4 years.

I have used pheromones before, I bought them from a website in the UK on the back of an interesting magazine article. The website (not wishing to link competition here) sells 100ml bottles containing roughly 3mg of 5-Alpha-Androst-16-En-3-One Androstenone combined with water and isopropyl alchohol base.

The effects I noticed where primarily with female friends. These friends who had always treated me as a brother would compliment me on my smell, offer more physical contact, be more attentive and laugh / swoon more at my jokes. I am positive that this effect helped me get my first long term girlfriend (who i’m now leaving). It also gave me a confidence but again only with alcohol.

The negatives have been sometimes feeling uneasy with so many people in a venue making eye contact, and sometimes a feeling of confidence would turn sour, if people felt wary of me (maybe due to over dosing?)

I have been reading plenty on PUA starting from The Game by N. Straus, and am looking forward to trying this out in the new year. My main fears and areas that i’d like pheremones to complement my newly understanding of PUA with women are:

Opening - I become a complete stuttering loser when trying to start a conversation with a woman that I like.

Opening Groups - This scares me even more! What will the men or other women in the group think of you when trying to get friendly with a girl.

Closing - After getting to know a girl, and becoming friendly being able to close and sleep with them when I decide before being viewed just as friend, or them going crazy waiting for my move.

However upon finding this website and viewing its products and reading some of the posts. I am raring to go in trying quite a few different products to see which works best.

A312 - although I feel it may not be needed, at lot of the characteristics it describes I can force out of myself. However I would like it to feel like it is coming more naturally. Hopefully it could reduce the resentment I sometimes get from the competition at work, and to give me the confidence to get points accross without having to belittle other peoples opinions. I was very suprised to read about a pheremone for work so would like to try it.

Instant Shine / Ammunition - I would like to use in pubs / bars / clubs situations to help with opening and starting conversations with girls / groups.

Turn Up The Heat - for when i’ve spent some time with them, got that comfort stage and wish to close and sleep with them.

I am however considering getting another from the Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, Come Talk To Me or [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) to help me open up groups, sets of women, etc. To prevent the immediate protect a member of our group response. Would anyone have advice on this?

Lasty just in case my username is NiNjAT00N (with two zeros). I wouldn’t want my $25 certificate being sent to someone else 🙂

Anymore questions let me know!

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-london/23974/5 "2008-12-15T19:26:57Z")

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Welcome to the forum.

Based upon what you’ve written, I think A3114 will serve you well. You’ll enjoy using it. I believe that all of your original choices are very good. Clearly, you’ve read up on the capabilities of these products. That’s always trhe best recipe for success.

You’ve been reading the forum, but in case you’ve missed them, make sure to read the sticky threads in the Men’s section.

Enjoy yourself here!

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-london/23974/6 "2008-12-15T23:32:25Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

Thank you for providing more information. I am going to suggest another direction. Because you mention that you are already respected at work but there is resentment I suggest IG over A314. A314 will just increase that. IG is more smooth, worldly, less intimidating, its got finesse. Still increases respect and attention but in a more non competitive way. Also would be better for attracting ladies for you because your nervous on the approach.

TUTH is good for certain situation. When your going out to say a club, party. bar…anywhere that has a sexually charged atmosphere. This is when you will get the best results. When you wear it to say the store or work or something like that people can become wary.

Think of the vibe your sending with anone. Its highly sexual. Its like walking around with your “johnson” hanging out. At a party or in a club people may yell whoo hoo baby, some will be a little shocked, some will hit on you, but most people will get over it and certainly notice you.

Now think about what happens when you walk into the bank with your “johnson” hanging out. The security guard will fly tackle you while a old lady hits you in the head with her purse screaming weirdo.

Enviroment can make all the difference.

Now take [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) which has 3 mones in it. The same amount of anone as TUTH. Its buffered, cuts back on the strong in your face sexual vibe while still being mildly arousing. It sneaks in under the radar and gives them a little tickle. This you can wear to the bank and that same old lady will say “what a nice man” while the cute teller girl sighs and flutters her eye lashes at you.

Now since you have approach anxiety I suggest CTTM 2 which is better at drawing them to you. Wont make you know what to say but it will get them there LOL

Ishine would be great as well to boost your confidence as well as draw them in and charm them.

If you have any questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way.** We are excited to have you here and look forward to your participation.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-london/23974/7 "2008-12-16T00:05:26Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> I am going to suggest another direction. Because you mention that you are already respected at work but there is resentment I suggest IG over A314. A314 will just increase that. IG is more smooth, worldly, less intimidating, its got finesse. Still increases respect and attention but in a more non competitive way. Also would be better for attracting ladies for you because your nervous on the approach.

Great call!
