# hello from los angele **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 25, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427 "2008-06-25T20:27:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kakarotto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/0ea827/32.png) [@kakarotto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kakarotto)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/1 "2008-06-25T20:27:31Z")
28yo male here, curious to see what these products can do with my current and future relationships. i ordered athena 10x before i found this board, now i wish i hadn’t jumped the gun, but i ordered the heat one (already forgot the name LOL) haven’t received either yet 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LaPew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lapew/32/330_2.png) [@LaPew](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaPew)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/2 "2008-06-25T21:06:53Z")
Hi and Welcome 🙂, Turn Up The Heat is good if you want to send out a strong sexual vibe, just be careful to start slow or you could OD. SmartMones/Androtics is usually very good about shipping so you should receive it fairly soon. Since you mentioned relationship enhancers may I suggest Instant Honesty, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), or Instant Shine as potential future purchases. All those are social products aimed at making others feel good and/or comfortable around you. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/3 "2008-06-25T21:08:59Z")
welcome to pherotalk rotto. What kind of relationships do you mean? if you went for TUTH, you might also want to try AMMO as it is the same amount of -none, but the mix is much better buffered. What I mean by that is you will be less likely to OD and get ignored or worse. you may also like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) as it tends to make people happy to be around you. Openness is also a huge favorite around here, it helps people to open up and just be more talkative. Let us know a little more about yourself and what you hope to achieve both in short term and long term so that we can give you some better advice or recommendations. ---
**Author:** ![kakarotto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/0ea827/32.png) [@kakarotto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kakarotto)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/4 "2008-06-25T21:26:22Z")
i just realized i left off the ‘s’ from los angeles lol anywho, it’s hard to read it all at work, what’s -none ---
**Author:** ![LaPew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lapew/32/330_2.png) [@LaPew](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaPew)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/5 "2008-06-25T21:37:36Z")
-none refers to Androstenone: _Alpha [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/): In the forum this is commonly referred to as –none or none. It is a hormone produced in men and women’s sweat. (significantly less if women) “Androstenone is the first mammalian [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) to be identified.” ([Androstenone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone))_ Taken from Toilofday’s great thread [Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159) When you get a chance you should check it out. ---
**Author:** ![kakarotto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/0ea827/32.png) [@kakarotto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kakarotto)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/6 "2008-06-25T21:40:25Z")
so it can smell stinky to some people, which is what i’ve gathered. you guys are very helpful on this board. btw, you guys seem to spray a lot and the bottles seem small and are more expensive than cologne by volume. im not poor but i am a very cheap bastard lol, how much do you guys spend a month on this stuff? you guys must go through these bottle wicked fast ---
**Author:** ![LaPew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lapew/32/330_2.png) [@LaPew](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaPew)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/7 "2008-06-25T21:46:51Z")
I’ve just started experimenting with [pheromones](https://a314.com/) myself but so far less seems to be more with a lot of products. The amount all depends on your body’s own chemistry and your needs. Pheromones in general tend to cost much more to manufacture then cologne, however the effects are much greater.😃 ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/8 "2008-06-25T22:33:28Z")
Hi there, Welcome to the forum TUTH contains none. It is used for clubbing scene and best used to someone you have already developed closeness. Becareful with the dosage as too much none can cause offensive result. To enhance relationship, you should try IH. It can make your girl intimate beside you. It makes conversation with your girl more intimate and deeper. It build the closeness and intimacy. Good luck in your phero trying. If you have any question, just ask. The people here are friendly. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![kakarotto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/0ea827/32.png) [@kakarotto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kakarotto)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/9 "2008-06-25T22:35:42Z")
> [@jamesbonded](#): > > Hi there, > > Welcome to the forum > > Turn Up The Heat contains none. It is used for clubbing scene and best used to someone you have already developed closeness. Becareful with the dosage as too much none can cause offensive result. > > To enhance relationship, you should try Instant Honesty. It can make your girl intimate beside you. It makes conversation with your girl more intimate and deeper. It build the closeness and intimacy. > > Good luck in your phero trying. If you have any question, just ask. The people here are friendly. > > Cheers yeah the people here seem nice. she and i are already close, but hmm, maybe i should order the instant honesty too…i wanna see how these work for me first. any thoughts on athena 10x? i hear mixed things ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 9:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/10 "2008-06-26T09:31:55Z")
Hello Welcome to the forum 🙂 Athena 10X isn’t a total bust, you just have to work with it. I suggest you get some little atomizers at the drug store and do your mixing in there with small amounts of cologne so that you can find the right ratio of product to scent for you. It tends to be more then they suggest with Athena to really see results. The to-go bottles here are just for testing or to have a handy carry around product. Once we test them and find our favorites we invest in the larger bottles which hold 200 sprays. The large bottle can last a few months. Thats one of the great things about androtics, you don’t have to jump right in and spend a arm and a leg to see if a product fits you or not. Quality mones are expensive just like quality colognes, Androtics has the most bang for the buck in my opinion. Other products may seem cheaper but there not so cheap when you need to use 1/4 of the bottle to see results. If you have any questions just ask. 😃 **Your GC will be in your email shortly** 😃 Have fun Tisha ---
**Author:** ![kakarotto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/0ea827/32.png) [@kakarotto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kakarotto)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/11 "2008-06-26T18:52:44Z")
so you guys mix your stuff with cologne or does it already have a fragrance? btw nice to see you have a stang in your stable! i love my 07 ---
**Author:** ![LaPew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lapew/32/330_2.png) [@LaPew](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaPew)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/12 "2008-06-26T20:50:22Z")
Most of the Instant line comes with a light neroli scent that’s fine on it’s own or can be covered. Some of the MX’s and Ammo have more of a cologne strength smell and can be difficult to cover. It all really depends on your preference. From what I’ve read and experienced cologne doesn’t hurt pheromone diffusion, arguably it helps. ---
**Author:** ![kakarotto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/0ea827/32.png) [@kakarotto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kakarotto)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/13 "2008-06-27T16:30:00Z")
got my turn up the heat yesterday, but didn’t feel like trying it on my sister lol. anyways, i might see the ex this weekend, so i’ll see how she reacts to it. i also just ordered female magic and instant honesty. _crosses fingers_ ---
**Author:** ![kakarotto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/0ea827/32.png) [@kakarotto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kakarotto)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-los-angele/14427/14 "2008-06-27T17:31:52Z")
i just ordered instant honest and female magic, so we’ll see how those work! i got turn up the heat, gonna try that out this weekend 🙂