# Hello from Michigan **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [September 20, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894 "2010-09-20T12:06:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![buggydude1835](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@buggydude1835](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/buggydude1835)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/1 "2010-09-20T12:06:16Z")
**Hello everyone, my name is Chris and I live in the Detroit, Michigan area. I am a 36 year old male, recently divorced. I’m an analytical person how usually over analyzes situations. Shy at times but not usually.** **I have a 47 year old woman friend that I have been dating for a few months. We are very comfortable with each other. She tells me things that she wouldn’t normally share with just friends and when something exciting happens, I am the first one she calls.** I am looking to take this relationship to the next level. **We spend our weekends together, but I haven’t spent the night. She assures me it will happen. I’m looking for suggestions that will help with that.** **Thanks in advance** ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 12:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/2 "2010-09-20T12:45:40Z")
Hello Chris and welcome to the forum. Try reading the thread in my signature block that deals with married guys. I know you are not married or anywhere close in this relationship but many of the same principles apply. I would tell you that you seem to have a good rapport, so Maybe [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to ump the “I am interested” factor although she seems to already know that. Maybe Ishine to help keep the mood up. TUTH sends out a very strong sexual message but it cvan be a double-edged sword if she is not ready. Or it might go ahead and kick it over the edge kinda like “He who cannot be denied”. But you will have to figure that out on your own. IH is one of my favorite products. Even if you have a strong rapport it helps make it a little stronger, which can never hurt. Once you read through that, come back and ask questions. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/3 "2010-09-20T12:59:54Z")
Bugydude, it sounds like [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) is definitely a part of what you’re looking for. A314 might be worth looking at, too. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/4 "2010-09-20T12:59:59Z")
\*\* I have a 47 year old woman friend that I have been dating for a few months. We are very comfortable with each other. She tells me things that she wouldn’t normally share with just friends and when something exciting happens, I am the first one she calls. \*\*\*\* I am looking to take this relationship to the next level. **We spend our weekends together, but I haven’t spent the night. She assures me it will happen. I’m looking for suggestions that will help with that.** **Thanks in advance** Hey There fellow Michigander! Hey this sounds like pretty good news now doesn’t it? 😃 Well For when it actually goes down I would recommend Tuth. It can make thing more intense in the bedroom for both of you, but certainly her. For general attraction you can use Ammo. It’s also sexual but more social than TUTH. IO/IH can help make her feel comfortable with you and can get her chatty. And IS I would recommend because it just make you and others feel good. Let me know if you have any other questions. Let us know how things go! ---
**Author:** ![buggydude1835](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@buggydude1835](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/buggydude1835)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/5 "2010-09-20T13:15:52Z")
Wow, this is a lot to take in! Thank you all for your suggestions! Do I use the different products by themselves or do I use them with each other? ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/6 "2010-09-20T13:18:45Z")
> [@buggydude1835](#): > > Wow, this is a lot to take in! Thank you all for your suggestions! > Do I use the different products by themselves or do I use them with each other? Yea you can mix them generally. But we recommend finding your sweet spot solo for all of them.So start with 1 spray of IS lets say… then the next day try 2 sprays… then 3, until you find your sweet spot with the product. Then once you do this with a couple you can start mixing, and trying new things. ---
**Author:** ![buggydude1835](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@buggydude1835](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/buggydude1835)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/7 "2010-09-20T13:28:44Z")
I think I will research Ammo, Instant Shine and [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) a little further. This combination sounds like it could help me. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/8 "2010-09-20T13:35:00Z")
> [@buggydude1835](#): > > I think I will research Ammo, Instant Shine and Turn Up the Heat a little further. This combination sounds like it could help me. Ammo and Tuth have the same main [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) of none. I wouldn’t mix them too much. I would use one or the other. But if you’ve used ammo earlier in the night and you know you are ‘staying over’, then spray a little TUTH to help things along 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![buggydude1835](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@buggydude1835](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/buggydude1835)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/9 "2010-09-20T13:40:18Z")
The same main pheromone? Do they have different secondary [pheromones](https://a314.com/)? ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/10 "2010-09-20T13:43:48Z")
> [@buggydude1835](#): > > The same main pheromone? Do they have different secondary pheromones? Yea, most of these instant line products have steering mones in them, as they are called. Just other mones in there to steer them one way or another. Ammo has none which is sexual but has steering mones to make it a bit more social as well. Tuth has none but is steered to be more sexual. ---
**Author:** ![buggydude1835](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@buggydude1835](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/buggydude1835)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/11 "2010-09-20T13:50:47Z")
Thanks for the info. To quote Sir Fransis Bacon, “knowledge is power”. Even though Michigan is struggling, I am still proud to call myself a Michigander! Thanks again Empath and everyone else! ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/12 "2010-09-20T14:24:34Z")
> [@buggydude1835](#): > > Thanks for the info. To quote Sir Fransis Bacon, “knowledge is power”. > > Even though Michigan is struggling, I am still proud to call myself a Michigander! > Thanks again Empath and everyone else! No problem. Michiganders unite! ---
**Author:** ![buggydude1835](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@buggydude1835](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/buggydude1835)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/13 "2010-09-20T15:39:21Z")
How often do I put them on, and when should I? I know I’m going to spend the day with her, put it on jus before I pick her up? Then again later? We grab lunch one day during the week, then after work we go to dinner. How would I use them then? ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/14 "2010-09-20T15:43:23Z")
> [@buggydude1835](#): > > How often do I put them on, and when should I? I know I’m going to spend the day with her, put it on jus before I pick her up? Then again later? We grab lunch one day during the week, then after work we go to dinner. How would I use them then? It’s really up to you… The spray alcohol one’s you’ll get will probably last 4-5 hours depending on how much you sweat and how hot it is. Generally the hotter it is the less time they last, however they will smell stronger if it’s hotter too. I would spray like 30 min before picking her up. Then maybe again 4 hours later… just like one spray or so… and if you’re going to get lucky spray some TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-michigan/41894/15 "2010-09-21T23:44:05Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Buggy! Remember you want to be there for her but you don’t want to be available all the time so she feels she can take advantage of you. The trick is to be dependable with that I can leave so you better hold on to me appeal. The men can tell you more about it. Your gc was issued. 🆒