# Hello from NJ! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 6, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-nj/50639 "2011-06-06T23:04:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![abcde12345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@abcde12345](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/abcde12345)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-nj/50639/1 "2011-06-06T23:04:01Z")
Hello from NJ! So I never would have seen myself trying something like pheromones, but I think they may be able to assist my situation. I’m a 21 year old gay guy in college. I have a lot of great friends, many of them gay. In particular, I’m extremely close with this one guy, who only considers me his best friend. I’m in love with him, I care about him a lot, and I really want a relationship, but he just considers me a really close friend, and says he doesn’t see me as a potential partner. I don’t really see why this is, because we get along SO well, and everyone thinks we’re in a relationship anyway. I want to see if I can use [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) to maybe help him see me as more than a friend, and a potential relationship partner. I know that pheromones can’t just work miracles on really unattractive or uninteresting people. I’m told that I’m reasonably good looking, intelligent, funny, etc.. I just don’t have a “sexy” vibe, which is why I think so many people see me as just a friend. I’m hoping that pheromones will help people (and especially my one friend that I talked about) see me as more than a friend. That being said, I’d love some recommendations on what kind of products I should use! I’m pretty quiet, but once I know someone well, I’m talkative and likable. It’s really the “physical” appeal rather than the “emotional” appeal that I think I need to work on, but then again, I know very little about this stuff. Let me know what you think! It’s nice to meet y’all 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![sugarplum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sugarplum/32/2259_2.png) [@sugarplum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sugarplum)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-nj/50639/2 "2011-06-06T23:17:50Z")
Welcome! If you need help with your physical appeal, I recommend Instant Jerk or [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/). They are both androstenone heavy products, which will increase your sexual appeal. Since you are such good friends with your target, you probably just need him to see you in a more sexual light to take it into relationship territory. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![abcde12345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@abcde12345](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/abcde12345)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-nj/50639/3 "2011-06-07T01:31:36Z")
Thanks! I just ordered Turn up the Heat, Ammo, and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I’d love to try more, but money is a bit tight! I’m very interested to see what happens. Any other suggestions? I’m not seeing my friend for a few weeks so I have time to experiment. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-nj/50639/4 "2011-06-07T03:22:12Z")
Well sadly [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) seems to be discontinued but from what I have read it was a super social and fun product probably very high in Alphanol (main ingredient in Instant Openness) and TAA (main ingredient in Instant Shine). Now I’m don’t understand the exacts of this but stuff I’ve read seems to indicate that gay males interpret pheromones differently in the brain than hetero males do. Which would mean that things like copulins and feminine pheromones would likely be a turn off. So in theory, you’re probably on a good track. I would order some IO though. Figure 2 sprays of Ammo gives off an all around sexy man vibe, which I would imagine would be as appealing to gay men as it would be to hetero women. Then go with 2 sprays each of IO and Shine to give off a real fun feel good vibe that’s probably about as close to mystery boy as you can get with that product gone for good. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-nj/50639/5 "2011-06-08T20:52:23Z")
Welcome to pherotalk Abcde! You received some great [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) recommendations. Take into consideration that a large amount of persons fear that if they take a friendship that is dear to them to the next level they might loose it if anything happens. Not saying that this is the case but you might want to if you don’t already know your friends reason for not wanting to be more than friends and how he acts with you. Does he treat you just as a friend or does he flirt and give you hints from time to time. That will assist in letting you know where his head is and what angle to work from. **Your gc was issued! 😉** ---
**Author:** ![abcde12345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@abcde12345](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/abcde12345)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-nj/50639/6 "2011-06-09T05:23:52Z")
> [@kelsey](#): > > Welcome to pherotalk Abcde! > > You received some great pheromone recommendations. > > Take into consideration that a large amount of persons fear that if they take a friendship that is dear to them to the next level they might loose it if anything happens. > > Not saying that this is the case but you might want to if you don’t already know your friends reason for not wanting to be more than friends and how he acts with you. > > Does he treat you just as a friend or does he flirt and give you hints from time to time. That will assist in letting you know where his head is and what angle to work from. > > **Your gc was issued! 😉** Thanks so much for your help everyone! I’m overwhelmed by the support network here, and the great customer service. Unfortunately, he has said to me that he just doesn’t see me as a love-interest. However, we literally spend most of our waking hours together, and we get along on a very, very deep level. This is the reason that I can’t seem to get over him, even after months of time. He just seems to have a deep seated idea of me as a friend, which I’m hoping to shake. I don’t think he has a fear of losing anything, or else he would have said so. He just sees me as a platonic friendship. But even if I can’t change his ideas, hopefully I can find someone else to at least make me feel a bit better!