# Hello from Ohio

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-ohio/42267>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [October 2, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-ohio/42267 "2010-10-02T21:30:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![JennaH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@JennaH](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JennaH)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-ohio/42267/1 "2010-10-02T21:30:43Z")

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Hi! I’m new to the site and have been reading a lot of the posts and advice from experienced users. I live in Northeast Ohio and I’m 46 years old female. I have a teen aged son who is going through the very awkward years that we all experienced when we were growing up… both male and female. Not yet comfortable with nature’s changes yet painfully aware of the opposite sex. A late bloomer, all his friends are old hats at dating (1-2 yrs exp) and he’s just getting started. He’s everybody’s buddy and nobody’s BOY friend. I was musing over how much I wish I could help him: relax, be himself (great guy!), and have a little confidence. His dad is really outgoing and like by everyone and not lacking at all in self confidence. Either he doesn’t remember what our son is going through or he never experienced it (🙄) I’m afraid he can’t relate to our son in this one…I guess it’s up to mom.:o As I’m fresh out of magic wands… I remembered reading about [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) once… hmm? And after a quick Google search here I am seeking advice and guidance from the gurus.

Question: Is there a product or mix that would help him be noticed by young ladies that would encourage _them_ to seek _him_ out and strike up a conversation or (heaven help me) a flirtation? A little shot of self confidence wouldn’t hurt either. I’m not looking to help him become a teen aged Adonnis, simply a happily “dating” young guy.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-ohio/42267/2 "2010-10-02T21:48:42Z")

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> [@JennaH](#):
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> Hi! I’m new to the site and have been reading a lot of the posts and advice from experienced users. I live in Northeast Ohio and I’m 46 years old female. I have a teen aged son who is going through the very awkward years that we all experienced when we were growing up… both male and female. Not yet comfortable with nature’s changes yet painfully aware of the opposite sex. A late bloomer, all his friends are old hats at dating (1-2 yrs exp) and he’s just getting started. He’s everybody’s buddy and nobody’s BOY friend. I was musing over how much I wish I could help him: relax, be himself (great guy!), and have a little confidence. His dad is really outgoing and like by everyone and not lacking at all in self confidence. Either he doesn’t remember what our son is going through or he never experienced it (🙄) I’m afraid he can’t relate to our son in this one…I guess it’s up to mom.:o As I’m fresh out of magic wands… I remembered reading about pheromones once… hmm? And after a quick Google search here I am seeking advice and guidance from the gurus.
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> Question: Is there a product or mix that would help him be noticed by young ladies that would encourage _them_ to seek _him_ out and strike up a conversation or (heaven help me) a flirtation? A little shot of self confidence wouldn’t hurt either. I’m not looking to help him become a teen aged Adonnis, simply a happily “dating” young guy.
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> Thanks in advance for your advice.

He is still young, so I do not recommend any “manly” products that contain -none, such as TUTH, AMMO, MX301. I think for his age IG, IO, IS, and IH are good. However, honestly, I don’t know if it is good idea for you to try to help resolve his issues with mones. Plus, many teenagers don’t want their parents interfering with their personal lives. Just my two cents

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**Author:** ![JennaH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@JennaH](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JennaH)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-ohio/42267/3 "2010-10-02T23:08:24Z")

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> [@CoolKatDC](#):
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> He is still young, so I do not recommend any “manly” products that contain -none, such as TUTH, AMMO, MX301. I think for his age IG, IO, IS, and IH are good. However, honestly, I don’t know if it is good idea for you to try to help resolve his issues with mones. Plus, many teenagers don’t want their parents interfering with their personal lives. Just my two cents

Thank you for your quick reply and advice. I agree, too, that parents shouldn’t meddle in their kids personal lives. I realize that my understanding of pheromones is very elementary at this time, but I thought that using them only created opportunities for the user. Outcomes are strictly by choice. Do I understand this correctly?

I didn’t mention in my original post that he’s going to be 18 in 6 months (not _that_ young) and has _never_ dated; he’s a strait A student, football player, has strawberry blond hair and blue eyes (ie. he’s easy on the eyes).. and to our clothing budget horror… a new 6’1" 200 lb guy. He looks nothing like he did a year ago… as I mentioned, he’s a late bloomer. My intention is NOT to jump start his “sex life” (God help me) but to open up some possibilities or opportunities… his choice! Of course, whether or not he’d like to try “mones” will be HIS choice as well. He’s definitely NOT a Mama’s Boy… he does what he pleases. I just wanted to learn what I could so the next time he asks me why he doesn’t have a date on a Fri or Sat night, I can offer him something to chew on while he waits for the text messages to roll in from his “harrem” who are currently ON dates requesting his relationship advice. I’ve raised the proverbial “nice guy” and I’m hoping he won’t finish last as they say. I think he’d have the confidence to ask a girl out… I think … his complaint is that no one thinks of him “that way” especially the ones he’s interested in.

My purpose is to open the realm of possibility, not set him up with a cute girl who’s the daughter of a friend of a friend of mine (LOL). Do you really think I’m barking up the wrong tree with mones? Remember, I’m new to all this and I’m genuinely seeking advice.

Thanks again, CoolKat. I so value your expertise on mones specifically and your thoughts in general in regard to my query/situation.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-ohio/42267/4 "2010-10-02T23:31:13Z")

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Okay, fair enough. He seems like a pretty attractive young man. Personally, I don’t think he needs any mones, lol. Not at his age. But then again, ANY advantage is still ADAVANTAGE 😉. Hey, anything that helps him stand out in a good way is a good thing, right? lol  
Maybe, because he seems so “good,” he might be intimidating some girls - in a good way- which means he needs initiate and lead from get-go. Sometimes, that is too much for young guys to do. I suggest you get him some pick-up books, such as, mystery method. These books are not all about how to get girls in bed; in reality, they explain more what women are attracted to, how they are, how they think&react, and so on. Reading it would help him much with his confidence too.

He should definitely get IG, IS, IO, IH… [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) with Instant shine or IO or IH would help girls feel more at ease with him. IG would make him seem dependable, trustworthy, caring.  
IO would make him seem nice and open. IH would help him become connected and intimate with girls emotionally; let him use it on girls he know that he would like to pursue a longterm relationship with. Instant shine is good for anything. It would make him seem happy, and it would make others around him feel good.

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**Author:** ![JennaH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@JennaH](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JennaH)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-ohio/42267/5 "2010-10-03T02:43:44Z")

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Thanks again, CoolKat. I had never thought about the pick up book route… I’ll definitely investigate that further. I’ll let him know about your recommended products as well… let him decide on which (or both) course to take. Thanks again for your insight!🙂

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-ohio/42267/6 "2010-10-03T04:25:34Z")

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> [@JennaH](#):
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> Thanks again, CoolKat. I had never thought about the pick up book route… I’ll definitely investigate that further. I’ll let him know about your recommended products as well… let him decide on which (or both) course to take. Thanks again for your insight!🙂

You welcome. I recommend MYSTERY METHOD, lol

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-ohio/42267/7 "2010-10-07T23:24:14Z")

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Hi there Jenna and BIG JUICY happy welcome from me. Man I wish my mom was as cool as you are. She was totally not into her baby boy dating. I think its amazing you have taken such an interest in his progress with the ladies.

There are a really lot of good options for him here and I think we can find something for him. From reading your post, while I normally agree wholeheartedly with CoolKatDC, after all he is one cool Kat 😃, I think I might actually recommend what he is saying stay away from. I think [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) would work most excellent in this situation. Most likely if he is anything like 99% of the guys out there, than he suffers from TV overload. It fills boys/mens heads with silly little notions that in order to get the girl you have to be nice and buy her stuff. Always there to listen and just be the doormat.

There’s a time and place to be a gentleman, but there is also the ever present girl who likes the bad boy. The guy who the good guy thinks erroneously is being mean to the girl, a jerk. In truth its the bad boy, the proverbial jerk, who simply has boundaries, knows when to say no, knows his limits and does not get used. He simply is being himself.

Most good guys think the only way to a girls, well you know what guys want 😉 is to buy her stuff. To treat her nice and do everything for her. Unfortunetly what he is really subconsciously saying is that he has no boundaries and if he can’t even say no to her, than how is he to protect her when real danger arises? NOT a good place to be. In actuality it is projecting a image of deceit. How so you may be asking yourself right now? He is using nice to get something in return, or at least he is hoping to get something in return.

I mean you no offense and please don’t take this the wrong way. I can say this with authority, because it is who I used to be to. I had to kill my inner wussy. I had to break out of the nice and comfortable shell of a boy and set my boundaries. I am sure your boy will progress too.

I would actually recommend David DeAngello’s Double Your Dating for him. It’s like $20 bucks but a FANTASTIC place to start. It simply teaches the very basics of a woman’s psychology and why things like Mystery Method works. That would be the next step he should take book wise. He might get embarrassed but it will help. Of course I am available to consult with too, no charge, just one guy helping another 😃. He can call me on the Hotline and I will be more than happy to get him on the path of righteousness. It’s a glorious path…

OK onto the mones. Ammo is going to do that trick. Ammo has an aggressive molecule called androstenone in it (-none) and while yeah it can cause tension it sounds as if your boy is simply being a doormat rather than the man, the protector, the one who will not take crap. Seriously good stuff, but not crazy like Ijerk or TUTH. It’s buffered enough to do the trick.

I’m sure all of us working together we can make this work.

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