# Hello from pheromone newbie **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 10, 2007, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-pheromone-newbie/6550 "2007-11-10T15:02:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rnode](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@rnode](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rnode)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-pheromone-newbie/6550/1 "2007-11-10T15:02:16Z")
Hello from a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) newbie in Illinois (US). I haven’t used any products yet, but have been lurking in this forum and reading other phero info online. I found this forum while doing searches on google. I am recently back on the dating scene after years away (now 35yo white male) and am finding I’m more nervous than I ever was back in the day. Once I get the first date, things seem to go well. My hope is to find a product or mix of products that will help me get things rolling in social situations. Something that helps me be more approachable/intriguing to women on first meet would be ideal. Ultimately, not a “let’s have sex now” type of attraction, but something more relationship-oriented. Thanks to all of you forum members whose posts have been helping me understand what products are out there, how you use them, and the results you’ve experienced! ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 5:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-pheromone-newbie/6550/2 "2007-11-10T17:42:30Z")
Hi & Welcome! Reading the mens section stickies is a great help when choosing products and for general information. The noob phero bootcamp sticky gives a good run down of each product. Have you made your choices yet? The more social products would be instant openness and instant honesty. Instant shine also for an all around feel good vibe. I also don’t think that ammunition would be overtly sexual and good for the results you’re looking for and combining with the more social products. Pherotalk is a great forum, don’t hesitate to post or ask questions when you’re ready, everyone is friendly and helpful. Enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![rnode](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@rnode](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rnode)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-pheromone-newbie/6550/3 "2007-11-10T19:16:26Z")
Hello and thanks for the welcome! I’ve read the various stickies in the men’s forum and am starting to get a good idea of what I’ll try first. At this point, I am thinking instant openness and ammo for my first order sometime in the next couple of days. While I wait for delivery, I’ll check the forums for the best advice on where to apply that combo and in what amounts. There’s definitely a lot to learn here and a good vibe to make it easy. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2007, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-pheromone-newbie/6550/4 "2007-11-11T05:53:47Z")
> [@rnode](#): > > instant openness and ammo 🙂 **[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)** **Dose** 1-6 sprays **Application points** neckline- front and back, hair (front for self-effect) **Primary Effect** approachable, playful, comfort **AMMO For Men** **Dose** 1-3 sprays 1-8 sprays (1-4 if heavy AMMO) **Application points** wrists, neck, chest **Primary Effect** friendly attention, cologne **Effect Duration** 6 hours, noticeable for 36 hours **Combinations** “Ammo should be by itself” DO NOT use with A314, MX134, or MX102-105 okay with Turn Up The Heat, Instant Openness I hope this helps.😉 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2007, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-pheromone-newbie/6550/5 "2007-11-11T06:41:30Z")
Hello Welocme to the forum. 🙂 Some good advice has been given to you on the products, I agree with Inkling and NB. One thing I should point out is that Ammo does not need to be used by itself once you have tested it as a stand alone product. Used in combo’s with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) it can make the vibe more sexual. To get a more friendly fun vibe from Ammo you can combo with IO. It has even been in combo with TUTH for a raw sexuality vibe. Your 35 and should be able to handle anone well. Still start out slow with anone products though. Have fun and if you have any questions just ask. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![rnode](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@rnode](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rnode)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2007, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-pheromone-newbie/6550/6 "2007-11-11T15:47:43Z")
Thanks Nancysboy, the dosage and application points are helpful. The DO NOT use listing with Ammo surprises me, since I’ve read many reports of people who mix with Ammo. Trish23, you came though with the answer to the question I hadn’t even posted yet 🙂. I’ll read a bit more about experiences with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and may add it to my purchase. My plan is to use each product for a week on it’s own, starting with low dosage and ramping up each day to gauge reactions and find the sweet spot, then consider mixes from there. I’m hoping to have at least one phero I like dialed in before the holiday party season. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-pheromone-newbie/6550/7 "2007-11-11T18:14:17Z")
Everyone is different and I have had some amazing results with ammo. Some of my mixes have been with stuff everyone has warned me against mixing so it’s really up to you. Whatever you decide should you accept this mission the agency will deny your existence and any involvement. This post will self destruct in 15 seconds. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-pheromone-newbie/6550/8 "2007-11-13T03:08:47Z")
rnode, Your testing strategy is perfect. I might also suggest a heavy od of each during your testing phase, just so you know what to expect. I applied an od dose of Ammo, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and NPA a week or so ago, although it was by accident it was alomst funny: I started at a hooters type establishment where a bunch of 18 to early twenty year old girls work, who by the way are usually quite friendly. But, on that particular night they all seemed extremely standof’ish and maybe even intimidated. Got frustrated and left, heading to a nightclub with more of a 30-40 something crowd. Once there the intimidated factor turned into more into a rude, screw you attitude. I’m not saying that I’m god’s gift to women or anything, but I usually at least do ok. On that particular night I felt like an ogre. I usually wear 3 sprays of Ammo, 2 to the chest and 1 spread behind both ears. 3 sprays of Instant Female Magic, 1 to the chest, 1 to the back of my neck, and 1 on the front of my neck. And, 2 drops of NPA, 1 on my chest and 1 spread on the wrists. That night I accentally poured out an extra drop of NPA and I also used a couple extra sprays of Ammo. ---
**Author:** ![rnode](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@rnode](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rnode)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-pheromone-newbie/6550/9 "2007-11-13T11:59:07Z")
Thanks steveo, I’m excepting the mission today and waiting for deployment (placing order and waiting excitedly for delivery). I’ll probably add IShine to the order, along with Ammo and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). mark-in-dallas, I read that testing method (1 week each product alone, ramp up dosages) in the men’s forum and it seemed like a good way to get a feel for each product and how it works for me before mixing, etc. make it harder to judge. I have to admit, OD’ing on purpose, didn’t occur to me, but makes sense to find the limit for each product. Thanks again all, time to get started!