# Hello from Sunny California!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 13, 2009, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824 "2009-01-13T04:17:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sushikid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@sushikid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sushikid)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/1 "2009-01-13T04:17:08Z")
Hi there! I am a freshman or newbie here and you can call me Ken. I am currently a college student, 23 years old. I heard about Smartmones website when I happened to surf websites that provides information about pheromones. I was looking for good pheromones that really works. At first, I thought of buying Pherlure as there are many good reviews and advertisements that claim the pheromones they sell are legit and really works, but luckily I found out that the so-called ingredients that they called as “di-dehydroandrosterone” is fake and never listed as a chemical in the national chemical database website. So I keep trying to search for the stuffs that really works and not scam. I happened to read a user post on Yahoo Answer about this website and I tried to gather some information and did a bit research before I decide that this product may work for me (hey, I can never know about the results before I try it, right?). A bit information of me, I stand around 5 feet 6 inches and weigh around 125 lbs, so I would say I am pretty “skinny” but not in a bad way, I am pretty fit but just need to bulk up more I think. Honestly I often feel shy to initiate a conversation with girls, but I have been practicing and now I could say at least “hi” and smile to girls that I am attracted to. I know that I still have to do something about my “skinny” situation (I would say I am fit but still thin compared to muscular guys here) and I am still working out on that by going to gym twice a week. But it would be a long journey and while working and waiting on it, I also want to try this “pheromone” thing. Mostly I am attracted to hot and sexy girls, of course there will be a lot of competitors that surrounds that girl trying to get her attention. Some of the competitors always happen to be a big and muscular guys and at the end that girl will choose that muscular guy over me. Depending on the situation and the type of the girls, sometimes I just confused of how to approach girls, but the bottom line is I try to at least smile, look at her eyes, and say “hi” when I see an attractive girl happens to look at me when I or she passed by or being at close distance. For example, at the club dancing scene, if I see an attractive girl that I like just dancing or sitting by herself, I would try to stand close next to her and ask her “hi, how are you? are you having fun tonight” , or if I see she is drinking, I would ask “what kind of drink is that?” as conversation starter and then if she replies I would ask her if she comes alone and then what she does (student, work, etc.) or talk about music or DJ that is playing in the house and ask her about her fave music or artists. It’s getting hard sometimes when the girl is not very talkative and acts cold towards me. Then I know that she is not interested in me and I will move on to find a new girl. I have no idea of approaching girls in the daylight time like in the supermarket, grocery store or in the mall (perhaps any of you have any idea?)…I just have a confidence when the situation is comfortable (such like social club gathering, bars, clubs, etc.). Now I am kinda confused to choose between Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Honesty, A314, and Ammunition; as these pheromones purposes are the same, which is to make your presence more noticeable among girls and to make girls feel comfortable so they would like to open themselves and chat you more. I look forward for your help and my gift certificate so I could start out very soon, and thank you for helping me out!! I am so happy to find a community here to belong to. I feel like I have a family in here. As you guide me, I will update you with my progress. Thank you again! ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/2 "2009-01-13T04:30:18Z")
First of all, wow! Great intro! Welcome to the forum ken! Aww, for shyness, give instant openness a shot, it makes you feel more chattier than normal, and it also makes others around you more chatty, just make sure you’ve got a watch to check the time so you don’t miss the train or something lol Instant shine will make you feel confident, and it also cheers you up, with this babe, people around me always seem to be in a jolly mood, never had a bad day with this one! Aww, don’t feel bad about being skinny, I actually like noodle boys they’re so cute! Wow, from what you’ve told about yourself, you seem pretty social, from the questions you ask to girls to keep the conversation going hmm…instant openness and ammo can probably help you out. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is another product that makes you seem more sexy while giving off those “cool guy” vibes. lol, well it’s really hard approaching girls in a supermarket, grocery store or mall if you don’t work there (for ex. if you were a sales representative/cashier you would come of as helpful but if you were a random stranger you might come out as “too bold”) > [@](#): > > Now I am kinda confused to choose between Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty , A314 , and Ammunition; as these pheromones purposes are the same I wouldn’t say that they all have the same purpose, they’re really different actually. Instant honesty would be more for bonding, Instant openness for chatting, a314 for respect/alpha-vibe, and ammo for sexiness. Instant openness wont necessarily make people respect you like a314 does, or ammo wont necessarily make conversations more intimate like instant honesty does. Hope it helped for now, no worries the guys will drop in to help ya out too 🙂 have fun! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/3 "2009-01-13T04:33:22Z")
Hey there Ken! Welcome to the forums! Wow, that sure was an introduction. I really don’t have any questions for you after that, like i usually do. So let’s get down to brass tacks, i suppose. You mentioned that you thought Instant Shine, Instant Openness, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) , [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) , and Ammunition all had the same purpose. This is definately not true, but i can see where you might get confused. So let’s correct this, shall we? First off, let’s tackle A314. This is a great product for the workplace, which creates an alpha male vibe and tends to generate respect from the people around you… however, this may create problems with people keeping their distance. They will wait for you, the alpha male, to initiate all the conversations. As you mentioned still working on getting women to talk to you, i would not recommend this one for you. Instant Shine creates a “healthy glow” to the people around you and has the self-effect on most people of boosting confidence and making them feel a bit more energetic. Good for just about any setting and could help you when initiating contact with women. Ammo is a -none based product (sexual) that has been well buffered with [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) to prevent OD’ing with the -none. It also has a cover scent pre-mixed in with it that smells something like Irish Tweed. This is good, since -none without a cover scent smells like BO. Ammo helps add a sexual spark to your encounters without coming off too strong. This would be a good product for when you go to bars and clubs. Instant Openness and Instant Honesty do pretty much what the titles say. Instant Openness makes the people around you more chatty and makes you seem more approachable. Instant Honesty helps create deep conversations and promotes people saying what they’re thinking… being more honest than usual, if you would. I would recommend IO over IH for you right now, which will help you get that initial conversation going. Remember, unless you douse yourself in pheromones (which will most likely backfire, so dont attempt it), pheromones may take 7-10 minutes of someone being exposed to them before working. So don’t expect to walk up to a girl at a bar and have her jump your bones. Tisha (she’ll post here in a bit) has an excellent thread on what to expect from pheromones. use the search option in the forums to find and read it. Any more questions? Hope you have a great time trying out your pheromones! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![chicagokid1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@chicagokid1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chicagokid1)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/4 "2009-01-13T04:51:22Z")
Welcome to the board Ken, Like the others said great intro! Mr Feel Good gave a great breakdown of all the products you mentioned. I dont think i can even add to that. If if were you I would buy a314 to stand out from the crowd abit and have an alpha aura about you. Ammo for extra attention from the ladies and maybe instant honesty or openness (your choice on these two openness gives more talk, but honesty gives deeper talk) I wish you the best 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sushikid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@sushikid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sushikid)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/5 "2009-01-13T18:50:45Z")
Hi! I want to say thank you for everyone that is nicely give me a warm welcome into this community. I feel I have a family in here. Thanks for the great review of each of the product. Now I get a better understanding of each of it. I am thinking to use the combination of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Shine, and A314, what do you think? would it work with variety of girls regardless of their ethnicity? Also, where could I get the MX200 in the SmartMone shop? P.S\> :sigh…haven’t get my gift certificate yet… ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/6 "2009-01-13T19:11:05Z")
> [@sushikid](#): > > Hi! I want to say thank you for everyone that is nicely give me a warm welcome into this community. I feel I have a family in here. > Thanks for the great review of each of the product. Now I get a better understanding of each of it. > I am thinking to use the combination of Instant Openness, Instant Shine, and A314, what do you think? would it work with variety of girls regardless of their ethnicity? Also, where could I get the MX200 in the SmartMone shop? > > P.S\> :sigh…haven’t get my gift certificate yet… hang tight buddy. tisha is pretty busy and usually gets around to them later in the day 😃 make sure you select a best answer too once everything is settled. there are many good ones so far. the combo you listed is a good start, and per our message yes it will work on other girls too. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/7 "2009-01-14T02:51:12Z")
Hello Ken, Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 My name is Tisha and I am the resident hostess and Phero guru. I am glad you found us. I dont suggest A314 for you. It has a high alpha aura and in not very approachable. It can be intimidating at times. I suggest AMMO to grab and hold there interest. IO to break the ice easier and IFM to comfort and ease. Ishine would be a good replacement for IO if you prefer that. > [@](#): > > Remember, unless you douse yourself in pheromones (which will most likely backfire, so dont attempt it), pheromones may take 7-10 minutes of someone being exposed to them before working. Mones work in two stages basically, The framing stage and the slow burn stage. The framing stage can happen in the first 2 to 5 minutes. It the first impression the sudden feeling that grabs a persons attention and begins attraction. The slow burn is the getting to know you stage and depending on the mones can take anywhere from 15 minute to 30 minutes. In other words the effect deepens the longer the are exposed to it. I will have Michael explain it… > [@](#): > > Pheromones help frame you (much like looks do or your clothing)… They “set you in a certain light” and introduce you before you introduce yourself with words or physical gestures. That’s what they do from the getgo, and you generally want to be act congruently with the pheromones (i.e., act friendly when you’re wearing friendly pheromones, act authoritative when you’re wearing [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) , etc.). > > Beyond that, there’s also a ramp up that takes up to 15 or so (some pheromones take longer, 30-45 minutes) from your first contact with someone, where rapport and emotional charges buildup and start to peak. > > So there’s at least 2 stages of “pheromonal magic” (that I’ve noticed, anyway): the instant framing (like the first note of a song), and the slower burn/warming up (the buildup of a song)… the latter being what some might even all enchantment, depending on the mix. If you have any questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** 😃 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![sushikid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@sushikid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sushikid)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/8 "2009-01-14T05:39:59Z")
Thank you everybody for your reply and great help for a newbie like me, wow…I am so amazed with this forum…never in my life I’ve been in a warm, friendly forum like this that feels like my own family. Tisha, I am wondering what exactly does the AMMO do? Can you or somebody here give me more detailed explanation on AMMO? I wasn’t thinking of that as one of my starting kit option because I don’t really have any idea of its functionality. Can AMMO increase my charm and give me competitive advantage over the other male competitors when I am with them surrounding around the girl that I like? Also, I was wondering if SmartMones offer free shipping? Any help or response is greatly appreciated, thank you very much again!!! ---
**Author:** ![sushikid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@sushikid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sushikid)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/9 "2009-01-14T05:54:48Z")
Also, what do you guys/girls think if I mix 1 spray each for Instant Openness, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), and Turn Up The Heat; then I go to school or work? Would it be appropriate and make the female coworkers or customers more friendly to me? Thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 6:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/10 "2009-01-14T06:56:19Z")
hey there, sorry I didnt get a chance to say hi before. Welcome to the forum!! You asked about free shipping. They give free fedex ground on orders over $50, and Free dhl overnight on orders over $200, I believe. As for ammo, it will give you an edge, but as its commonly said here, just wearing [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) isnt going to likely get you laid so on. About 90% is you and your personality, and the other 10% could be the work of the pheromones. As for your question about the IO/IFM/TUTH “mix” before work or school, I would say no. Stay away from turn up the heat at school or work. It will give off the wrong signals. Turn up the heat basically send out the “I want sex right now” signal, which can lead to awkward issues at work/school. Save this for maybe a club or when you are with a girl. Hope this helps you, and again, welcome! ---
**Author:** ![sushikid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@sushikid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sushikid)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/11 "2009-01-14T20:22:41Z")
Thank you. What about [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and Instant Ammo, which one is more suitable for me and give me the edge? I want to give a “charming” aura to the girls. I would like to buy both but I don’t have enough budget for that, can somebody here please kindly help me or enlighten me up? thank you so much! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/12 "2009-01-14T23:55:55Z")
If your going for charm the IG is the one. Both IG and AMMO are attractive but they evoke different emotions. Hmmm lets think of a analogy… IG is the prince of mones. Smooth, gallant, charming, safe, worldly, sophisticated. trustworthy. AMMO is more the like the laird of mones. Masculine, cool, mysterious, mildly dangerous (not in a bad way) arousing, confident. Both sexy great products that attract, you will have to choose the vibe your going for Tisha ---
**Author:** ![sushikid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@sushikid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sushikid)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 9:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/13 "2009-01-16T09:50:21Z")
Thanks Tisha!! I really appreciate your explanation. Does SmartMones/AndroticsDirect charge me for tax? Because when I was about to pay, I saw they charge me for tax so I think it was weird because nobody mentioned it before, so I postponed to place my order. Even [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com) never charge me a tax for whatever I buy from them. Anybody can please confirm and kindly help me? Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 8:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-sunny-california/24824/14 "2009-01-18T08:29:37Z")
Androtics is a California, Beverly Hills company and yes there would be tax if using PayPal and live in Cali.