# Hello from the Mid-West **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [October 18, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626 "2008-10-18T17:42:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Shy\_Curious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Shy\_Curious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shy_Curious)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/1 "2008-10-18T17:42:20Z")
Where to start? I’m a 45 year old woman going through worlds longest divorce after a long (20+ years) marriage. I’ve been told I’m very pretty, but don’t know how to flirt, REALLY. In ‘normal’ situations, I’m very friendly, open and talkative. But, if I’m around a man I’d like to get to know better, I think I just talk too much and have NO mystique. (Is that really what men want?) And, to add to the (un)confidence level, I’ve recently lost my job. I can’t help but wonder how an unemployed, 40+ woman is suppose to be attractive to men? I’d like recommendations for which products might be the most helpful for job interviews - assumming I ever get one, and also, what I might wear if I know I’m going to be around someone I’d like to ask me out. Money is really tight, so I’ll need to prioritize. Any and all help will be sincerely appreciated. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/2 "2008-10-18T18:04:17Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum. I am sorry to hear about the turmoil in your personal life. The best thing I can tell you based on experiences with friends is to try to keep your idea of self-worth up. Too many people take divorce as a reflection on their value as a person and that is not the case. I know the women’s products pretty well but i like to leave the recommendations for the ladies as they know first hand and better understand the nuances. I am sure one of the ladies should be by - there are quite a few here. Welcome again to the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/3 "2008-10-18T18:09:05Z")
Hi, welcome to the forum! Wanna learn to flirt? Hang out in the Women’s forum and learn from Bella, Tisha and the best of the best! You’ll be knockin’ 'em dead in no time! Keep in mind that a lot of attraction comes by exuding confidence. Here, you can learn to talk the talk, armed with some pheros and self-built confidence, you can walk the walk. As for pheromones, of course you need Instant Shine. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) will also help you greatly. These can all be worn safely to a job interview. Buy them as Togo sizes, they have less product, but are also cheaper. Your GC should almost cover the cost of one, there is a two bottle minimum of Togo products, FYI. Enjoy your time here. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/4 "2008-10-18T18:40:28Z")
Welcome Shy & Curious! The guys gave some great advice there. I love wearing MX134 and [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) to work. That combo gives a distinctly respectful vibe. I get what I want a lot more than before I was wearing pheros. I feel really confident wearing it too which I think is key. You have to act the part to get the part, if you know what I mean! As for attracting guys, the Instant Sexiness will work great for that too! Just be yourself…because in the end, that’s all that matters! ---
**Author:** ![Shy\_Curious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Shy\_Curious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shy_Curious)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/5 "2008-10-18T18:56:35Z")
Thanks to all 3 of you that have replied thus far. Regarding the [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/), ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/6 "2008-10-18T18:58:54Z")
Definitely give the M134 a try too with regards to job interviews. It comes in a TOGO size too so doesn’t cost a lot. It really pushes the respect vibe thru the roof. ---
**Author:** ![Shy\_Curious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Shy\_Curious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shy_Curious)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/7 "2008-10-18T19:07:54Z")
Sorry about the premature send. My cat ‘helped’ me out with that. Regarding the [Instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) - should I try A or B? Does it depend on the ‘target’ so to speak? I’ll only have one shot in the next couple of weeks. I’ve read about the ‘Angelina Jolie’ vs. ‘Marilyn Monroe’ comparison (A vs. B) and still don’t really know which would be the most effective keeping in mind that my goal is simply to get him to ask me out. Guys - can you offer any thoughts on this? If it matters - my ‘target’ (geez, I feel like a sniper) is in his late 40’s. THANK YOU!! ---
**Author:** ![Shy\_Curious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Shy\_Curious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shy_Curious)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/8 "2008-10-18T19:10:15Z")
So I would use the M134 along with the [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/)? Is M134 the same as the aforementioned MX134? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/9 "2008-10-18T19:16:18Z")
it really kinda depends on the guy, your personality and what perspective you want the relationship to start from. I like strong confident women. So you might think IS/a. But at the same time I feel a need to “protect” an IS/b woman. A lot of women seem to indicate a lot of alpha type guys are like that. If he is not a real alpha kinda guy but is a nice gentleman - maybe IS/b might be the way to go. But you see how your personality fits in. Some women indicate that it can be hard to go with the formula that is the opposite of your personality type but others do just fine. ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/10 "2008-10-18T19:36:33Z")
OK, I hope I don’t complicate this too much. Here’s the differences. IS/A is [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) heavy with light [TAH](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (Strong, sexy, confident female vibe; Angelina Jolie in a bottle) IS/B is [TAH](https://pheromonelabs.com/) heavy with light [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (Soft, sexy, kittenish female vibe; Marilyn Monroe in a bottle) > [@](#): > > In a post from Tisha23: “Men who tend to be more dominate or like a more submissive women tend to respond well to [TAH](https://pheromonelabs.com/). They pay more attention and tend to “take care” or lead more.” So, if this is describes your TG and you, IS/B would be the choice. > > If, however, the your man prefers a more dominant female or likes for you to be in charge and more independent (or doesn’t mind that you are), and this describes you, he’d probably respond better to IS/A which has more TAL. > > Both versions contain some couplins which are male attractants but being 45, you may want to consider customizing your IS with additional couplins if you can afford it. X5 or even X20. Our bodies start decreasing the production of these natural pheromones as we get older. > > My guy responds to both very well, but I find IS/A more versatile for me because it gives me a bit more confidence boost and respect vibe at work than IS/B which is just too “soft” for that environment. This way, I can use IS for work AND for my personal life. > > I just checked the store and IS/B is still out of stock but I know they are working hard to make it available again soon. IS/A is available though and you can get that in a TOGO or a 30ML bottle. I think the extra couplin customization is also unavailable at this time because they are low on stock. > > It takes a while to correctly formulate some of the products and they won’t sell it unless it meets the high quality standards they have, so it will be worth the wait when it is back in stock !🙂 Yes, for those job interviews, I’d wear both the MX134 (sometimes referred to as M134) and the [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/). This is my favorite work mix and have noticed that the people there are a LOT more accomodating. My combo is 3 or 4 sprays of IS (depending on the amount of couplins added) and 4 sprays of MX134. BUT you really need to experiment with both to see what works for you as each person’s body chemistry is different. Start with one spray and work up from there to find your “sweet spot”. ---
**Author:** ![Shy\_Curious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Shy\_Curious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shy_Curious)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/11 "2008-10-18T20:06:33Z")
This is very helpful. Regarding your statment “My combo is 3 or 4 sprays of IS (depending on the amount of couplins added) and 4 sprays of [MX134](https://pheromonelabs.com/)” how do I know how many couplins are added to the [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/)? So much to learn … Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/12 "2008-10-18T20:22:29Z")
If I have the “standard” IS, I use 4 sprays at work, and sometimes more if I’m in a non-business setting. I don’t know what the exact couplin content is since they have to have SOME trade secrets 😉 If I have it customized with extra couplins (abbrev. “cops”), say for instance, x20, I’d probably use only 1 or 2 sprays at work since I think any more than that just wouldn’t be appropriate with that much couplins at work. Couplins basically send the message that “hey, I’m a fertile female over here and am ready for reproduction”. I feel that there’s nothing wrong with wearing a little at work to make yourself feel good and for others to think you’ve got it goin’ on and I don’t think anyone expects you to be **totally** NON-sexual. Plus, if your body doesn’t produce much naturally, you could probably get away with wearing more and you won’t know that until you start experimenting. But, just keep it in context. With x5 cops I’d probably use 2 to 3 sprays at work, more for non-business. Like I said, you’ve really got to experiment for yourself to see what works for you 😃 Keep posting the questions and we’ll do our best to answer them!🙂 Plus, check out the stickies in the women’s forum. They contain some really helpful info too. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-mid-west/21626/13 "2008-10-19T09:57:46Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 Great advice from river,😃 I also suggest MX134 for work and [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) for both work and personal use. I would go with A first because you didnt mention a target guy and you need a confidence boost. Flirting is a skill that can be learned at any age. I suggest you read the body language link in my signature below. It helps you to learn to read people but can also help you learn to send signals and you can start small and work up to the more blatant flirting when your more comfortable. Body language can be a shy girls best friend. 😉 If you have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** 😃 Tisha