# Hello from the middle of new york **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [August 9, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-middle-of-new-york/31439 "2009-08-09T18:51:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![seamus\_mcmannus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@seamus\_mcmannus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seamus_mcmannus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-middle-of-new-york/31439/1 "2009-08-09T18:51:58Z")
My name is Seamus, but like many little Irish men, most people just call me Lucky or Mic. I am 30 years old and live in the hudson valley. I wouldn’t call myself a seducer, and don’t know how much I believe in magic elixirs, if you will. But I have always had in interest in herbs and their natures, and I am intrigued by the human mind, specifically in how it interacts with other human beings, so I must say this site seems like it may be interesting to surf around for a while. Plus with the offer I just couldn’t turn down the chance. I guess my main questions are do these things really work for what they say they will? And what are other users thoughts on the ethics of using such products? It’s a dilemma within myself. If you use a product like this with a woman without her knowledge is merely an edge over the other fools out there, or is it just downright dishonesty? ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-middle-of-new-york/31439/2 "2009-08-09T19:03:36Z")
Welcome to the forum, Seamus You’ll enjoy it here. A lot of us take an interest in psychology and how to use it to improve relationships, so you’ll feel right at home. As for ethics, [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are a tool to enhance what is already there. It is no different than a woman seducing a man with makeup, a sexy dress and a wonderbra. Is a woman dishonest for using makeup and enhancing her assets to land a mate? Musk ---
**Author:** ![seamus\_mcmannus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@seamus\_mcmannus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seamus_mcmannus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-middle-of-new-york/31439/3 "2009-08-09T19:22:26Z")
That’s a really good point. Somehow though it seems that the rules are different for women than they are for men. Just like if a man sleeps around he is a playboy, and most people just look the other way, but if woman does it she is usually considered easy or a slut. Mind you, I don’t share these opinions, I think that sex, and relationships are such complex issues that you can’t really categorize anyone in respects to them. So though a woman would see nothing wrong with her fake eyelashes and wonderbra, might her reaction to my [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) enhanced cologne not be unfavorable? Almost as though I had slipped her a micky. No pun intended. Now to the other question, do you use this stuff? And does it really work? ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-middle-of-new-york/31439/4 "2009-08-09T19:34:45Z")
Hi Seamus, Welcome to the forum! So you are interested in using phero’s then? If you tell us a little bit more about yourself and how you relate to others it’s easier for us to point you in the right direction. What are you hoping that phero’s could do for you? Are you looking to mainly use them for dating, or do you want to boost other areas of you life as well eg work, familiy life, general social situations, hoping for self effects etc? Like Musk said… I wouldn’t stress about the ethics of using phero’s. They aren’t a magic potion that create feelings/attraction etc, phero’s only enhance what’s already there on some level 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-middle-of-new-york/31439/5 "2009-08-09T19:39:26Z")
> [@seamus\_mcmannus](#): > > Now to the other question, do you use this stuff? And does it really work? Short answer; YES and YES 🙂 Phero’s do work, and they aren’t a new concept in the world of science. There’s plenty of research to back the phero science theories and if you are interested the forum has a section dedicated to just that 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![seamus\_mcmannus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@seamus\_mcmannus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seamus_mcmannus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-middle-of-new-york/31439/6 "2009-08-09T20:45:09Z")
To be honest I hadn’t really ever thought of using pheros, I was tooling around the internet and fell upon some sites about them. I always thought of them in kinda the Spanish fly category, you know you put it on and all of a sudden women want you. Though the thought of that is intriguing, and would undoubtedly would really be the dream power of either of the sexes, but I don’t really want it like that. I want to know people on a real level wether they are friends or lovers. I never thought they worked on the person wearing them, I am most interested in that. Self actualization is a constant goal in my life. Now I know it sounds corny but I believe truly that no one can love someone who doesn’t love themselves. Luckily I love myself plenty, but a little extra help couldn’t ever hurt. What’s the deal with instant shine, and the honesty one? Thanks for the answers so far ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-middle-of-new-york/31439/7 "2009-08-09T20:48:27Z")
> [@seamus\_mcmannus](#): > > Now to the other question, do you use this stuff? And does it really work? Backing up Xiphoid again. Yes, they do definitely work. Bear in mind that the pheros are designed to fit the majority of users. Take [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) for example. It doesn’t work for me, but the majority of users report satisfactory experiences with it. I’ve always suspected a high androstenone signature and if that’s true, it would explain a lot of incidents in my teenage years. It’s possible that I OD even at low doses of the stuff. A314 has taken its place and it is the bomb. Then there was the incident years ago where I was exposed to the natural scent of a woman who wasn’t wearing perfume. I know, the end is nigh! 😃 She twisted my head around without even touching me and I would have followed her out the door like a lost puppy dog. Her natural scent was intoxicating. Musk ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-the-middle-of-new-york/31439/8 "2009-08-10T21:22:13Z")
HI there Lucky and welcome to the forum. Pheromones are not magic, but just like brushing ones teeth they do offer an edge over those that don’t. I’m sure you would agree brushing your teeth is not dishonest. They also do not go against anyone free will either. No one is going to just jump your bones if they didn’t want to in the first place. The good news is I will be sending out the GC to your email in just a short while. You can pick up a couple of to go bottles nearly for free. Give them a try. Welcome to [PheroTalk.com](http://PheroTalk.com)