# hello guys :D

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [January 12, 2012, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183 "2012-01-12T07:20:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tranchcode](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@Tranchcode](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tranchcode)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183/1 "2012-01-12T07:20:41Z")

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Hi Guys,  
iam a 20 yo male from Germany.  
I never had a real relationship nor sex and iam a bit shy around women.  
Iam overweight so i dont get mutch sexual attention from women.  
I want to use pheros to make social stuff easier and get more attraction.  
I allready have some expierience with [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/).  
First time a red about them there `http://do-pheromones-work.com/`  
and ordered a bottle of “The Scent Of Eros”

[Scent of Eros Men 10ml Roller: Amazon.de: Parfümerie & Kosmetik](http://www.amazon.de/Scent-Eros-Men-10ml-Roller/dp/B005LOBQ6W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326352690&sr=8-1)

[Intesa Sex Attraction Parfum 125 ml Deo: Amazon.de: Parfümerie & Kosmetik](http://www.amazon.de/Intesa-Sex-Attraction-Parfum-125/dp/B001J78EYW/ref=sr_1_5?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1326352713&sr=1-5)

[Sexuallockstoff ANDRO VITA: Amazon.de: Drogerie & Körperpflege](http://www.amazon.de/ANDRO-VITA-Sexuallockstoff/dp/B002STI0AI/ref=sr_1_3?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1326352759&sr=1-3)

[Testangebot Eroscape Pheromone für den Mann, 2 x 2 ml Phiolen: Amazon.de: Parfümerie & Kosmetik](http://www.amazon.de/Testangebot-Eroscape-Pheromone-Mann-Phiolen/dp/B0030IJ9NI/ref=sr_1_4?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1326352781&sr=1-4)

for men and later some test tubles of “Eroscape” and “Andro Vita” which worked quite well for me.  
i also use “sex attraction” as deodorant because it smells really nice  
I recognised women got a bit mor touchier around me.

Now i purchased 6 to go bottles from  
A314  
IO  
IH  
IS  
tutH  
Ammo

to test what is possible and find a relationship or at least get some one night stands.

Questions:  
1.Iam allready working our every week in the gym, what would be the best combination to attract girls there or get a conversation going?

2 What do you think about the stuff i allready tried?

EDIT: i have played arround with the pheroes and what pissed me off was thai IS works more like instant headache everytime i use it on a location near the head i get bad headaches almost instant so half of the name is true ☹

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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 7:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183/2 "2012-01-12T07:35:29Z")

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Hi there,

No worries about not having a real relationship or sex so far,your still pretty young so you have lots of time for it to happen.Lol,i ended up having my first relationship pretty late as well(\>_\<)Can understand the being shy,i used to have that problem too.Its very difficult to overcome and takes a lot of courage to overcome it.Your making the effort though so im sure good things will happen for you(^_^)Being overweight can be difficult but im sure you will look good with enough effort since your going regularly to gym and working on improving yourself.

Thats cool that the pheromones youve already tried have worked well for you.I cant really comment since ive only heard of scent of eros which is supposed to be pretty good.Sounds like youve pretty much gotten the whole set of pheromones available which is pretty awesome.For attraction,would probably play around with ammo for its attraction factor paired with instant shine for its mood boosting.Adding some IO may also be a good idea since your shy to get the conversations going(^_^)Some people have had good success pairing A314 and TUTH as well for attraction but i haven’t tried it so not really sure.Would depend what kind of vibe you want to put out also.All the best and hope you get good results with what youve bought.Dont hesitate to ask if you have any questions and make sure to find your sweet spots for each of the products to get the best results(^_^)Can check out how in the link below if you haven’t already.

> [@How to find your sweet spot...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146):
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> Lately I have been getting a lot of calls from guys and gals unsure what the forum members mean when we say “sweet spot.”:stuck\_out\_tongue: Here’s a very simple way to find your individual sweet spot for each consumer line product like: Ishine IH IO AMMO A314 TUTH and so on. It’s very easy to do and I hope this guide offers you the assistance you need. When applying the pheromones, please ensure that you are using only one (1) [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) at a time. This step is extremely importan…

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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183/3 "2012-01-12T08:05:59Z")

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> [@Tranchcode](#):
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> EDIT: i have played arround with the pheroes and what pissed me off was thai IS works more like instant headache everytime i use it on a location near the head i get bad headaches almost instant so half of the name is true ☹

Bit weird about the IS.Ive heard some people getting headaches but its usually only when you overdose on it.How many sprays did you put on?Generally anything that has a slightly negative self effect like instant honesty,i usually wear on my wrists so i dont smell it myself as much and it doesnt effect me as much.Have you noticed any effects from the pheromones youve got on other people so far?

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**Author:** ![Tranchcode](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@Tranchcode](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tranchcode)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183/4 "2012-01-12T08:24:47Z")

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> [@looifookmeng](#):
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> Bit weird about the IS.Ive heard some people getting headaches but its usually only when you overdose on it.How many sprays did you put on?Generally anything that has a slightly negative self effect like instant honesty,i usually wear on my wrists so i dont smell it myself as much and it doesnt effect me as much.Have you noticed any effects from the pheromones youve got on other people so far?

i only took only one spray on the neck so i dont think i overdosed  
what pheromones do generally have negative selfeffects?

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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183/5 "2012-01-12T08:40:16Z")

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> [@Tranchcode](#):
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> i only took only one spray on the neck so i dont think i overdosed  
> what pheromones do generally have negative selfeffects?

Hmm,yeah.Dont think so then.You could be allergic to the neroli scent carrier.Does it happen with any of the others or only instant shine?Ive gotten the headaches from it before but that was around 4 sprays of the X2 version.Generally the only one i find to have negative self effects is instant honesty.Not a good one to wear if your in a bad mood,you will end up getting in a lot of arguments.It works fine as long as you have it on your wrists and not your neck though.

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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183/6 "2012-01-12T08:50:46Z")

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Hmm,seems your not the only one who was sensitive to one spray.Seems some people are quite senstive to IS and it takes a while for the body to adapt to it.Might be a good idea to only use it on your wrists and away from your nose for the time being.Can check out the past discussions in the links below

> [@Instant Shine giving me a headache](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-giving-me-a-headache/27135):
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> I’ve been using IS for a few days now and every time I’ve worn it (always one spray only) on my wrists or neck I’ve gotten a headache an hour to two hours after applying it. No other colognes have this effect on me. Any idea why this could be happening? I have [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) also, but haven’t worn it without IS so I don’t know if that will cause a headache also, I’m going to try that out tomorrow.

> [@instant shine and headache](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-headache/15947):
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> hello everyone. Do u guys get mild headace with instant shine. I just noticed that if I spray it near my face I seem to get a mild headache. I really like how it makes me feel even ordered a second bottle 2x strenght that have not used cause the bottle leak and was left with 1/4. Have to send for a replacement but I don’t think its a good idea now cause of the mild headache. Just want to know if its just me or do u guys get this as well.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183/7 "2012-01-12T10:46:49Z")

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Hello and welcome tothe forum.

Looks like you have a good array of products both from androtics and from other sources.

I am not sure why the IShine would give you a headache although it has happened to one or two people. I would put that one on your wrists as has been mentioned.

I am not sure what to tell you about pheros at the gym. If you are worling out hard then you are going to sweat them off. If you are not working out that is obvious and you are getting no benefit from it. Well maybe other than meeting people. But if you are going with something maybe the A314. If you have the oil it might do a little better lasting.

If you have any other questions we are always happy to help.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183/8 "2012-01-12T15:48:07Z")

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Hi there and welcome to the forum!

I wanted to chime in on my IShine usage, when I started it. I’ve been sensitive to scents all my life, with some causing severe headaches to full blown migraines. IShine, I started on my wrists and felt the beginnings of a headache. It wouldn’t get beyond that. I became acclimated to it as I use IShine regularly to get others comfortable around me.

If you take a look at my sig below, my thread amazing in a bottle, I began my testing with IShine and do mention the headache when I started out.  
It does happen to some.

For the gym, AMMO… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tranchcode](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@Tranchcode](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tranchcode)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183/9 "2012-01-12T20:07:49Z")

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are hairs or clothes a good applicationpoint in gym? since you wont sweat them off there

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183/10 "2012-01-12T20:15:30Z")

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You have to be careful with hair and clothes.First, never use an oil based product like A314 on your clothes. Ever. No. Bad. Be careful with the alcohol based stuff - it night damage some things. Experiment carefully. Plus you need the right detergent to wash them out of clothes.None will stick to hair and clothes and last there forever. So do not spray [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or TUTH on on your clothes or hair. Remember, the best diffusion is via body heat. If the pheros you are wearing are on your clothes you tend to kill the diffusion. The head works - back of the head is common with some people. But your head can sweat too with a good workout.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-d/54183/11 "2012-01-19T01:30:03Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Tranchcode!

With your situation pheromones alone won’t help and you got to start by deciding to be confident and taking steps towards improving you and your life.

Once you start to read and mingle with the guys on the forum you will understand more what am talking about and I hope that coming to this forum is a step forward to a better you

_ **Your gc was issued!😃** _