# Hello Guys! Looking for Pheromones to Attract Women and for Social Interactions. M/24

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**Created:** [January 8, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861 "2017-01-08T20:21:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![protecten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@protecten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/protecten)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/1 "2017-01-08T20:21:43Z")

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Hello guys,

So i came upon an article about [pheromones](https://a314.com/), and the idea of having an edge on girls is very appealing to me, i suppose for everyone.

I must say im skeptical regarding everythig, if anyone reads this and have some convincing article or thread feel free to point me in the right direction 🙂

I’m 24, male.

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**Author:** ![protecten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@protecten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/protecten)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/2 "2017-01-08T20:40:03Z")

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Do the pheromones smell a lot?  
I usually use perfume, that i’m very fond of and would not like to have to mix a number of smells.

Also, my goal is obviously to attract women and have more social relationships. Any advice which products to use?

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/4 "2017-01-08T20:57:44Z")

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Hello protecten, welcome aboard!

It’s easy to be skeptical about pheromones but you’ve really got nothing to lose here as the instant line products have a money back guarantee. As for evidence, there is a wealth of information in the theory section, but as they say ‘the proof is in the pudding.’

If you’re looking for attraction from women, Ammo is a good choice. It a good overall attractor, and it’s good for social and sexual settings.  
A good social product to start with is IO as it makes people more open to conversation.  
Pair each of these with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and everybody will be in a light and happy mood.

The products gernerally have a nice smell, neroli has been the default for many. It’s like a nice sweet orange smell. Some other products have other smells that might be a bit harsh depending on the person’s preference.  
But they now have the option to get the products in ‘stealth’ which is almost scentless. This would be good if you only want to really smell like your cologne.  
In my opinion though, most products that are neroli smell really good and I’ve always gotten compliments from the ladies.

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**Author:** ![protecten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@protecten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/protecten)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/5 "2017-01-08T21:05:34Z")

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Does one need to mix products? Are there any negative sides to these?  
I read a lot of different information, pointing both way in every case. Thank you for replying!

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/6 "2017-01-08T21:08:44Z")

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Hi Protecten,

Welcome to this forum.

You don’t have to mix products, if mixing different products in bottles and doing some complicated math is what you mean. You can apply pheromones to different points directly on your skin or layer them. It’s always best to try each product invidually first though, it lets you understand the self-effects and effects on others you’ll get with each product. This will also let you determine your best dose for each. Of course, some ‘mixes’ are better than others, you’ll find information on this forum or through testing.

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**Author:** ![protecten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@protecten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/protecten)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/7 "2017-01-08T21:10:17Z")

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> [@Conjurator](#):
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> Hi Protecten,
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> Welcome to this forum.
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> You don’t have to mix products, if mixing different products in bottles and doing some complicated math is what you mean. You can apply pheromones to different points directly on your skin or layer them. It’s always best to try each product invidually first though, it lets you understand the self-effects and feects on others you’ll get with each product. This will also let you determine your best dose for each. Of course, some ‘mixes’ are better than others, you’ll find information on this forum or through testing.

Thank you for replying. Say one uses 3 sprays a day, how long will a bottle last?

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/8 "2017-01-08T21:22:01Z")

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The to-go format (5 ml) holds approximately 40 sprays. The full size format (30 ml) holds approximately 200 sprays.

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**Author:** ![protecten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@protecten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/protecten)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/9 "2017-01-08T21:28:14Z")

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I think ill stick with the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) alone. Any input on that?

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/10 "2017-01-08T21:46:45Z")

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> [@protecten](#):
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> I think ill stick with the Ammo alone. Any input on that?

Ammo is a good starting point. And you should be perfectly fine to use it on its own. Plus it has the money back guarantee and the Togo is quite inexpensive. I started out with that one, it is a good one.

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/11 "2017-01-08T21:55:05Z")

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If you want only one product, with the help of the gift certificate you might want to grab the 30-ml bottle 😃, it’s your pick.

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**Author:** ![protecten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@protecten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/protecten)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/12 "2017-01-08T22:12:39Z")

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I’ll get the 30-ml. Perhaps ill add some Instant shine. I must say i have a hard time finding any scientific pro-[pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) articles that can back your products. Am i looking the wrong place, or what?

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/13 "2017-01-08T22:36:18Z")

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Only some products have natural [human pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), for instance ammo does.  
A quick google search can easily show that these pheromones are in fact in humans, and some, for instance Andorstenone, are known to work pheromonally in the animal kingdom. There aren’t too many studies on their effect in humans. But there are enough to come to a reasonable conclusion.

If you use the search function and search for studies there are a lot here, you just got to search through to find the ones that suit your needs.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/14 "2017-01-08T23:15:17Z")

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> [@Jdub](#):
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> Only some products have natural human pheromones, for instance ammo does.  
> A quick google search can easily show that these pheromones are in fact in humans, and some, for instance Andorstenone, are known to work pheromonally in the animal kingdom. There aren’t too many studies on their effect in humans. But there are enough to come to a reasonable conclusion.
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> If you use the search function and search for studies there are a lot here, you just got to search through to find the ones that suit your needs.

I read an article that claimed it was not beneficial to use Andorstenone, as it might even cover up your own pheromones. Anyway, it sounds to good to be true. But what do i have to loose, but a few dollars, right? I’ll give it a go once i receive my gift!

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**Author:** ![protecten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@protecten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/protecten)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/15 "2017-01-08T23:28:12Z")

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Quote: I’ll provide source if you’d like. Very confusing seeing as the pheromone portrayed as negative is one of the ingredients in ammo.

All [male pheromones](https://phero.com/) are not equally attractive, and some of the myths stem from an understandable confusion over their names. The male pheromone androstenone is not the same as androstenol. Androstenol is the scent produced by fresh male sweat, and is attractive to females. Androstenone is produced by male sweat after exposure to oxygen – i.e. when less fresh – and is perceived as highly unpleasant by females (except during ovulation, when their responses change from ‘negative’ to ‘neutral’).

So, men who believe that their ‘macho’, sweaty body-odour is attractive to women are deluding themselves, unless they are constantly producing fresh sweat and either naked or changing their clothes every 20 minutes to remove any trace of the oxidised sweat. Generally, the female-repelling androstenone is the more prominent male body odour, as the fresh-sweat odour of androstenol disappears very quickly. In terms of scent, the sweaty macho-man is therefore likely to be unattractive to most women, most of the time – at best, he may elicit a grudging ‘neutral’ response from women who happen to be ovulating (which of course excludes all those taking oral contraceptives).

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/16 "2017-01-09T02:02:57Z")

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That’s some interesting information. Sounds a bit strange if you ask me. Women love androstenone.  
Androstenone is the sexual/dominant pheromone.  
Androsterone is the masculine/mature pheromone.  
Androstenol is the [social pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/).

Where are you getting your info.  
I wear a lot of androstenone and women get so sexual with me it’s nuts.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/17 "2017-01-09T13:57:07Z")

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> [@protecten](#):
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> Quote: I’ll provide source if you’d like. Very confusing seeing as the pheromone portrayed as negative is one of the ingredients in ammo.
> 
> All male pheromones are not equally attractive, and some of the myths stem from an understandable confusion over their names. The male pheromone androstenone is not the same as androstenol. Androstenol is the scent produced by fresh male sweat, and is attractive to females. Androstenone is produced by male sweat after exposure to oxygen ? i.e. when less fresh ? and is perceived as highly unpleasant by females (except during ovulation, when their responses change from ?negative? to ?neutral?).
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> So, men who believe that their ?macho?, sweaty body-odour is attractive to women are deluding themselves, unless they are constantly producing fresh sweat and either naked or changing their clothes every 20 minutes to remove any trace of the oxidised sweat. Generally, the female-repelling androstenone is the more prominent male body odour, as the fresh-sweat odour of androstenol disappears very quickly. In terms of scent, the sweaty macho-man is therefore likely to be unattractive to most women, most of the time ? at best, he may elicit a grudging ?neutral? response from women who happen to be ovulating (which of course excludes all those taking oral contraceptives).

Hi protecten!

Welcome! I don’t blame you for being skeptical. The problem with most products out there is many products are very unbalanced and either have no pheromones or 2. is very heavy in Androstenone and the heavy Enone if it is to much can have very negative effects and actually drive a woman away instead of attract her. That is why a lot of products simply do not work. **They key is balance**.

I normally have a few suggestions, but for you I will do things different and in all honesty don’t blame you for being skeptical and will suggest just one this time.

**[Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)** This one is for attraction and would get this and will work great being 25. It is very balanced and does share some common ingredients with IO and IShine to so you should have good luck with this one. This will be your very best bet if I had to narrow it down to just one for you to try.

I mean with the $25GC a big 30ML bottle would be $25 plus $6 for shipping so for right at about $31 if you are in the states including shipping would be your very best bet.

I try to make the very best possible suggestions for the user and not to sell something as it comes down to the user and what they want at the end of the day.

As far as dose right about 2-3 sprays should be your sweet spot but would still start with 1 spray and go from there. I would solo test the S.Ammo first until you get down your sweet spot then try adding your cologne afterwards.

I hope this helps and makes sense. If you have any questions at all please do post no matter how small of a question.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/18 "2017-01-09T17:13:03Z")

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> [@justintime469](#):
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> Hi protecten!
> 
> Welcome! I don’t blame you for being skeptical. The problem here is many products are very unbalanced and either have no pheromones or 2. is very heavy in Androstenone and the heavy Enone if it is to much can have very negative effects and actually drive a woman away instead of attract her. That is why a lot of products simply do not work. **They key is balance**.
> 
> I normally have a few suggestions, but for you I will do things different and in all honesty don’t blame you for being skeptical and will suggest just one this time.
> 
> **Summer Ammo** This one is for attraction and would get this and will work great being 25. It is very balanced and does share some common ingredients with IO and IShine to so you should have good luck with this one. This will be your very best bet if I had to narrow it down to just one for you to try.
> 
> I mean with the $25GC a big 30ML bottle would be $25 plus $6 for shipping so for right at about $31 if you are in the states including shipping would be your very best bet.
> 
> I try to make the very best possible suggestions for the user and not to sell something as it comes down to the user and what they want at the end of the day.
> 
> As far as dose right about 2-3 sprays should be your sweet spot but would still start with 1 spray and go from there. I would solo test the S.Ammo first until you get down your sweet spot then try adding your cologne afterwards.
> 
> I hope this helps and makes sense. If you have any questions at all please do post no matter how small of a question.

Great post, definatlely’ll try. Just waiting for my giftcard. Do you know when and how i’ll receive it?

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/19 "2017-01-11T23:05:53Z")

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Not received any gift certificate as of yet

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/20 "2017-01-15T14:35:31Z")

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Usually, to get a GC you have to tell us about yourself, the goals you are pursuing with pheromones and your personality. Are you a man or a woman? You have talked mainly about pheromones theory so far, it’s interesting but we still no very little about you 🙂. Follow these directions, and I’m sure you’ll get a GC eventually. Good luck.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-guys-looking-for-pheromones-to-attract-women-and-for-social-interactions-m-24/66861/21 "2017-01-16T07:17:51Z")

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Welcome to PheromoneTalk, protecten!

Just finished wading across my unfinished tasks. 🙂 Your GC is now in your email.

There are two way of knowing the truth. First is by reading the theories, second is by praxis. I hope the GC would push you to try it and you be the judge.

Happy Pheroing! 🙂

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