# Hello I am a newbie on the block

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [January 4, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509 "2009-01-04T22:21:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![bobs4567](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@bobs4567](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bobs4567)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/1 "2009-01-04T22:21:52Z")

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Hi all I am a newbie on the block to this site and phermones. The reason I joined is becuase there is a women who lives round the corner from me that I have liked for years I live in Scotland by the way I have done many a stupid thing like looking over my shoulder to eye her up without looking where I am going and walking in to lamp post which are badly placed in my way 😃 and falling of the pavement. She has never reall noticed me before and I made a new years resolution to get her to notice me and by this time next year at least have a friendship or a date with her makes all the injuries worth while. 😃 I have heard of how phermones can get you noticed and I am hoping they can do the same for me with her. She is beautiful and in scotland galloway where I live is known as bonni galloway and we are all bonnie babies when we are born in galloway because of the bonnie baby contest scotland is known as bonnie scotland and when we are all grown up we are called bonnie lads and lassies. Let me tell you this she is not just bonnie but heavenly and I would therefore appreciate any suggestions, comment and advice on products that may help me get my bonnie lassie. Look forward to hearing from you all.

Robert Duncan

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/2 "2009-01-04T22:51:02Z")

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Hey Robert! I already welcomed you in another post of yours, but what the heck! Welcome to the forums again! Sounds like you’re just a wee bit smitten with this girl. Let’s see what we can do, mmm?

First off, you should tell us a bit more about your personality (shy or outgoing?), her personality (if you know it), where you would want to use the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) (just hoping to pass her in the street or meet up with her in a bar, etc?). Oh, and i know you said this in your other post, but how did you find out about pheromones in general and PheroTalk specifically. These answers will let us give you better suggestions and advice, as well as earn you a $25 gift certificate towards that first order. A true win-win, if i do say so myself.

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/3 "2009-01-04T22:53:16Z")

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Hi bonnie lad,

Welcome o the forum.

It is true hat pheromones will help you to attract the girl but you will still have to make the move. You have to approach her.

AMMO will be useful to make her attracted to you. It is an attractant but you have to find opportunity to be close to her or talk to her.

Shine will give you the confidence to talk to her. It is also lift your mood and the people around you.

IO can make her want to talk to you, It is an ice breaker to open up girls. Hope you can strike a conversation with her.

Good luck

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/4 "2009-01-04T23:34:17Z")

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Hello Robert and welcome to the forum.

Got your eye on a Bonnie Lass do ye? Well maybe we can help. But just remember that - these products only help by enhancing who you are. They will not do all the work for you. Nor will they move lightpoles out of the way. They will however send out a subconscious message saying she may want to be eyeing you up or better yet chatting you up when you say hello. What happens after that will be entirely up to you.

The product recommendations you have so far I think are very good ones.

Ammo is 'none based and will get you noticed. Just remember to start the testing at low doses. You can go overboard with this one.

IO is also another good choice. It will help with those initial conversations. Once you have her talking to you however come back and check out [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/).

After that the recommendation of Instant shine is right on too. It will hopefully leave her feeling happy to be around you. Remember - ladies like guys who can make them smile and feel happy. Plus have a little bit of that “je ne sais quoi”. The three of these products ought to be able to do that for you.

Good luck, please ask us any questions you have, and let us know what you decide to do.

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**Author:** ![bobs4567](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@bobs4567](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bobs4567)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/5 "2009-01-05T00:09:53Z")

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> [@Mr.Feel\_Good](#):
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> Hey Robert! I already welcomed you in another post of yours, but what the heck! Welcome to the forums again! Sounds like you’re just a wee bit smitten with this girl. Let’s see what we can do, mmm?
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> First off, you should tell us a bit more about your personality (shy or outgoing?), her personality (if you know it), where you would want to use the pheromones (just hoping to pass her in the street or meet up with her in a bar, etc?). Oh, and i know you said this in your other post, but how did you find out about pheromones in general and PheroTalk specifically. These answers will let us give you better suggestions and advice, as well as earn you a $25 gift certificate towards that first order. A true win-win, if i do say so myself.

Hello again Well I would say a little shy in terms of my personality I tend to go all quite and shy when I meet a women I am smitten with you are right I am smitten but she is a cracker. In terms of her personality I don’t know a lot about it you see I first noticed her when I saw her with her younger sister whom I had met or was in my biology class at school. From what I have seen she is friendly enough she neve walks on the oppsoite side of the street from you and from what I have heard she is a caring person she does now and agin hold parties apparantley so she is kind of like you average happy kind of girl but I have little to go on. If her sister still remembered me I would have asked her for more info but I am afraid she doesn’t. I would want to start of by chance encounters out a walk etc as she has a child I don’t think she goes to the pub alot but if I could start it with a chance encounter then increase them from their I thought it would give me a better basis to move to the next stage friendship and then on from there.

I found out about phermones from school and college but never really paid attention to them it was only when I was sitting in class one day dreaming about the librarian who was quite fit and the wildlife insructor and a few women in my class that I started to wonder about phermones for human use as an added boost to my natural ones. I then researched from there about them and found out when I was doing this that channel 4 in the uk was doing this documentary on how love was chemistry and they looked at a range of different factors but the ones that they noticed the most was when the men in the experiment had played a game of basket ball the women were asked to rate the t shirts for sexiness and it was then they put the theory that phermones was one of the more powerful allies of a man looking to get a girl to notice her. I then done some research and found a few phermones being sold in the uk but quite frankly I did not see any customer reviews and when I found out some of my friends used them they told me about them but quite frankly I though the sprays were either ineffective for them or they made my friends smell like a horse it was only then I realised alot of them were animal based phermones instead of human synthetic ones and quite frankly I was not willing to shell out a fortune on something they got from an animal and just bottled it. I also thought they should have said at point of sale these are animal phermones not human ones. I then done some research and found phermone companies whom said that theirs were the best in the world but shown no proof of it some even said they would make you perform better in bed at that point I laughed my head of. When I dug deaper I asked a few question on question websites and 95% recomended using this company as they though the products were truly amazing and from there I did some research of my own and found thousands of good reports but no bad ones then I found this website on ask [jeeves.co.uk](http://jeeves.co.uk) and though why not give them ago sorry about lengthy reply.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/6 "2009-01-05T00:25:51Z")

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Never feel bad about a lengthy reply, good sir. The more detail the better, as far as im concerned. Well, having heard that, i would go with the three products recommended above by my fellow trusty forum goers. Instant Shine i especially feel will be great for you, since you are going to have to take that first, horrible step since you wont be able to just meet her somewhere… you’re going to have to go up and start a conversation. And when doesnt a little extra confidence help with that, mmm? The instant openness will help her feel more chatty and inclined to talk for a bit, while the Ammo will hopefully attract her interest in you. Be warned though… almost everyone orders several products, rips the package open when it arrives, and proceeds to douse themselves in everything. That is the newbie baptism, and its a mistake. Take each product and try them one at a time, preferably not on the girl you’re jonesin’ on. Start with a small dosage, 1 spray, and see how that works. Then move to two sprays, etc. When you find your sweet spot for each product, you can start to layer them.

Also, you may consider getting a to-go bottle of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). It’s the other product that i would recommend after hearing more about yourself and your woman of interest, although if i remember right you were trying to stick to 3 products. The reason i’d recommend IG is that it gives off a cool, mature vibe… something of a male provider. And it affects you as well (at least it does for me), making you feel more collected and smooth. Mature and provider would be definite attractors for a single mother. Just an idea.

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**Author:** ![bobs4567](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@bobs4567](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bobs4567)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/7 "2009-01-05T00:50:56Z")

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Thanks for the feed back guys I will try all suggested including instant gentleman as I quite like the idea of being seen as a provider for her. I am in some ways trying to be a provider for myself I have just started an underwear website so hopefully that will make enough to keep me well supplied with phermones and give me a little extra so when I see her and eye her up I can pay the council to move the light posts for me! 😃 What is the best conversation starter for talking to her I was going to try I think youve dropped something but I think it maybe a little cornie. How do I get the dicount voucher as I will be getting my benifit payment they kindly said if I earn more than £90 a week then they will affect my benfits so I will use their generous allowance of £90 a week on top of the benefits if I ever get a sale to fund my phermone habit but i will be getting my benefits next week and plan to be ordering some of the bottles suggested in the to go size to try them out. As for the newbie Baptism I think I will try one spray first for each of the products individually first then layer them as suggested as I would hate to mess things up and loose my chance of winning her over. One firend has suggested chat up lines but I think they will be avoid because I would rather chat her up my way than the life jacket type joke. Ps love this site great wee comunity of like minded folk as we would say. phero talk rules.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/8 "2009-01-05T01:55:09Z")

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Hello Robert, Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

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> Got your eye on a Bonnie Lass do ye?

BH dont do that, you know the Scottish accents makes me melt on the floor.

Ummmmm What bosshank said… (Tish fans herself)

Ok I got it under control now. 😉 AMMO and IO are great first choices. I do suggest Ishine for a charismatic warmth as well.

IG is defiantly something to consider if you can afford it or later on when your ready.

Dont get TUTH just yet. This is best for one on one encounters or sexually charged atmospheres. I could deliver that one by hand if you want but i would probably faint if you spoke LOL (just teasing) well not really LOL

Im sorry its Bosshanks fault, thats my story and I am sticking to it. 😛

**Your GC is on its way**

Tisha 😃

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**Author:** ![bobs4567](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@bobs4567](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bobs4567)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/9 "2009-01-05T03:17:33Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Hello Robert, Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂
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> BH dont do that, you know the Scottish accents makes me melt on the floor.
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> Ummmmm What bosshank said… (Tish fans herself)
> 
> Ok I got it under control now. 😉 AMMO and IO are great first choices. I do suggest Ishine for a charismatic warmth as well.
> 
> IG is defiantly something to consider if you can afford it or later on when your ready.
> 
> Dont get TUTH just yet. This is best for one on one encounters or sexually charged atmospheres. I could deliver that one by hand if you want but i would probably faint if you spoke LOL (just teasing) well not really LOL
> 
> Im sorry its Bosshanks fault, thats my story and I am sticking to it. 😛
> 
> **Your GC is on its way**
> 
> Tisha 😃

Thanks for getting back to me tisha I think I am going to like chatting with you! 😃 and lets just say when bonnie lassies come into it she is heaven on earth. Any tips on how to turn a chance encounter in to a talking point would be great if the picture is anything to go by you can deliver that one by hand if you want LOL 😉.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 10:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/10 "2009-01-05T10:16:16Z")

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Hey there Bob

I touched a bit on this subject in the mens forum last week. I can pretty much start a conversation with anyone.

> [@The Gift Of Gab](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gift-of-gab/24413):
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> First of all, thank you for your replies to my intro. I have received my first order of pheros: Ammo, Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), and togo’s of TUTH and a gift of Instant Honesty (thank you). I just ordered Mystery Method and plan to start reading it once I get it. I realize that pheros can only do so much. They may assist in the attraction department, but in the end it is still me that has to hold interest and conversation. I, unlike others, do not have the gift of gab. I find that after …

First task to do…

Most people have some sort of schedule they at least loosely adhere to.  
Find out hers, without stalking her of course LOL.

You mention she has a child, maybe she takes the child for a walk everyday or to the playground or something. Maybe she frequents a certain store or pub. I assume you see her here and there when your out now. Once you figure out a way to see her in passing more…

Second task… Practice with your mones a little to find your dosage, You should be doing this while you doing the other tasks I gave.

Third task… Make initial contact

First thing you do is make eye contact with her and smile, Maybe say good morning or afternoon as you slowly pass by wearing your mones. If you see her in passing often, do this a few times before you start a conversation so she has a sense of knowing you a little.

Observe her without being weird looking while your doing it LOL You will notice things about her, If she has her child with her, you can use that to start a conversation. Say "Bonnie little lass/lad how old is he/she ? Now if you read the other post I wrote that I provided a link to above you will no how to continue. Remember Statement then open ended question so she has to respond.

Suppose she shops at a certain store alot. First be sure you know something about the store. If she’s holding a bag or something from that establishment you can use that as a starter. (like the donut shop example I gave in my other post).

Being aware and observing her is what is important. I have a feeling since your walking into lamp posts that your looking but not really seeing. By this I mean get past the Bonnie part and look at what she is doing, holding, wearing anything that can give you a opening to talk to her.

If she happens to drop something, then sure pick it up for her and start to talk but dont stop her and say you dropped something if she didnt. Just so you know men can drop things to LOL Drop something in her path. Not your kilt, something your holding 😃

You have a advantage really to, other then the mones , You kinda know her sister and you live near each other so you can use those things in conversation to give comfort and familiarity. It helps to start to establish a connection. Dont open with them but you can work them in by saying. "I think I know your sister from school Whats her name ? " or "You live near me I think, How do you like that new lamp post they installed ? " That one is stupid but you get my point. Find a common link.

Your gonna probably get some PUA advice in here to. That stands for pick up artist. There tips on how to get women. Anyways some of the tips are useful but there mostly for guys looking for a quick ummmm… I think they call it “tup” in Scotland. Could be wrong… but anyways your looking for more then that I assume so while the advice can help don’t over do it. Women can smell a PUA a mile away and this girl doesn’t seem like the type to fall for it. Just be you.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![bobs4567](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@bobs4567](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bobs4567)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 11:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/11 "2009-01-05T11:32:24Z")

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Tish thanks for the advice we do call it tup in scotland but she is to good for a one night stand. I was out for a while delivering leaflets I hate the things but then I remembered every leaflet gets me closer to phermones so I was quite happy to deliver them I saw her when I was out she was taking her rubbish to the bin I was going to ask her if she wanted a hand with it. This was before I read your advice I can tell you this she was wearing a blue and green cheuqed top with no sleaves and black trousers so I did notice something about her I was mad I did not offer to help but my mouth was open and the lips moving but nothing came out till I tripped over a loose paving stone and all I could think of saying was who put that there and scurrying away quickly to get some pride back but the next time I will be poised and ready. With regards to finding out more about her I will do. I never was good at stalking type games like the ones we plaid where we gaurded a blue light in the forest and others sneakt up and stole it. I always got caught but some would say when you want background hire a pi well I know a copper who is retired after 35 years if it ever gets to the point where I need anything like that I will just ask him to do it free!

I never did like pick up artists there is something doggy about men claiming to be able to help you pick up a women kind of like they can’t be trusted they might run of with them. I was just wandering though if one could sue the council for putting light posts in the pavements instead of the roads and raising pavements I would make a mint LOL!!!

I will when I get printer ink print of all your advice as I think advice on getting to know women from women is gold dust they know better what women like to hear lets face it we men aren’t as observant so I do really appreciate it one other question how do I add you to my friends list as I think you are a witty and funny pal to have?

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/12 "2009-01-06T00:49:17Z")

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HI Bob,

Darn, taking her garbage for her would have been a good opportunity to get her familar with you. Even if you just carried it and then said have a nice day and went about your business. The next time she saw you she would feel compeled to say hello or acknowledge you in some manner.

Well there will be more opportunities. Wonder if she brings the garbage to the bin every night around that time. 😃

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> my mouth was open and the lips moving but nothing came out

Now once you get your mones they may give you more confidence as well as attract so that may help there. Next time quickly go over what you want to say in your head. Then approach, this way you already know what to say and it will make it a little easier to talk.

Like my approach would have been something like…

“Oh my that looks heavy, let me carry it for you.” Dont walk ahead of her you want her to walk with you to the rubbish bin.

“Nice night out isnt it ?” Unless it was crappy of course LOL

She will respond. “Yes its lovey”

Then you throw her garbage away and give her a smile and a wink and say … “Have a nice night” and walk away. The smile and the wink are important. You dont want to end up in the friends box. This adds a little flirtatiousness to it without going over board.

I know what your thinking… why walk away your finally talking to her.

Because your establishing familiarity… Then suppose you see her the next day walking on the street. You can walk up and say "Hello there, how are you today? " and its not like your a stranger. Your the nice guy who brought her garbage out. She will be more likely to reciprocate.

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> I never was good at stalking type games like the ones we plaid where we gaurded a blue light in the forest and others sneakt up and stole it.

Thats ok I dont want you to stalk just observe when you can.

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> how do I add you to my friends list as I think you are a witty and funny pal to have?

Just click on my name on the left and go to my profile. You will see my friends list on the right. Click befriend Tisha and it will put the request in and when I see it I will approve it.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![bobs4567](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@bobs4567](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bobs4567)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/13 "2009-01-06T01:02:38Z")

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tisha thanks for that I was up from 5 am here in the uk its now 1 am the next day I deliver leaflets to earn some extra cash I hate doing them but yesterday when I was out I just kept reminding myself that every one was a step closer to my phermones.

Since I have been talking to you all hear and finding out alot more about what they can do I have been positivley buzzing with hapiness and confidence so much so I was bored and thought I would pop on and see whos about. Confidence in that I know there is something that can help and alot of people to help me and hapiness because I dont feel so alone in my goals anymore. Chessy I know but I can’t wait till I get my next payment I am going to start ordering my phermones even if it means buying one at a time for a couple of weeks. I really can’t wait I am like a kid in s sweetie shop or as you yanks call them candy store.

I was reading a page on someone who test products and I was amazed by his reactions to amo he had applied two or three squirts went to a pub or a club said everyone just looked at him the same and then gave up on the phermones the next day. I did ask hime why but never got a reply I dont think he was really fair to ammo as he went to a busy place where a womens sinces can be temporarily dulled and never even made first contact with any women sorry he did give it a second try by increasing to three squirts and then eight but again he never made first contact and I was screaming how is she ment to get a waft if you do let her.

I think he set his expectations to high perhaps we could send you to sort him out before he makes any major mistakes. 😉 Mind you he might develop a bit of a crush on you as he was only a teenager.

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**Author:** ![bobs4567](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@bobs4567](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bobs4567)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/14 "2009-01-14T18:08:12Z")

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Update Re I am a newbie by bobs4567

Hey guys

Wee update I have placed my first order DHL sent the parcel to mexico but it is now safley in a uk depot to be delivered tommorow so I have broken into the world of phermone whey! I was asked buy a couple of my friends to report on my progress so I will be doing an independant blogging test re phermones so androtics be warned I may have a few thousand questions to make sure I get it right. On the test shall be a number of things to be tested as well as pheros like the service you get from the team so far I have to say the services here at androtics have been A+ rating. As to how I get on with the phermones well if DHL gets it right this time then I should be able to put them to the test in a room with three women in it when I go for my youthwork job interview so I shall let yous know how I get on so watch this space. I am also doing an independant blog becuase I saw one guy try out phermones he was in a crowded room so womens senses were dulled and becuase it did not work first time he went and od thats overdosed the phermones the second time and got the opposite of what he wanted then he gave in and I thought well I will do a blog following the advice of everyone here and at the other place so people have a fairer view on phermones and not a magic wand view. Anyway let you know how it goes speak to you all soon.

Robert 🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-i-am-a-newbie-on-the-block/24509/15 "2009-01-14T23:31:25Z")

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> Androtics be warned I may have a few thousand questions to make sure I get it right.

Thats quite alright Robert, We are here to help 😉

Tisha
