# Hello, looking for pheromones to take me and the hot lady to the next level! M/40's

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**Created:** [March 22, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-pheromones-to-take-me-and-the-hot-lady-to-the-next-level-m-40s/67074 "2017-03-22T14:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![wataru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58f4c7/32.png) [@wataru](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wataru)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-pheromones-to-take-me-and-the-hot-lady-to-the-next-level-m-40s/67074/1 "2017-03-22T14:25:31Z")

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Hi,  
Me and the Mrs are over 40’s.  
My lady is already quite hot, but I want to take her to the next level.  
She’s been talking about swinging and stuff, but I notice that she still lacks that “little extra push” that sometimes makes her totally wild.  
So I want to try these products to see how far it takes her …

Any other users have experience with over 40 or are you all still young and clubbing?

wataru

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-pheromones-to-take-me-and-the-hot-lady-to-the-next-level-m-40s/67074/2 "2017-03-22T17:09:23Z")

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Welcome - Nope, there are a few of us older guys here too. 🙂

IME mature women tend to go-on stronger and more overt sexual and status/sexual signatures compared to younger women, esp with an established partner and it looks like you might want something fun/feelgood and with a bit of disinhibition to steer things the way you want. 🙂

So to that end, I would suggest the 5mcg version of TUTH as you main sexual - as we age, we produce less Androstenone and as women age, they tend to like more of it - sometimes a lot more!

For steering, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is a good fun/feelgood product that complements most mones nicely and can be used standalone as a social in the widest range of situations.

The experimental molecules TAC and P83 are pertinent - TAC, in doses over 20mcg has been found to help with “letting go” in bed and is a good one to get goofy/playful/rather adventurous with.

P83 is a physical disinhibitor that helps with getting in to the mood to get down to all sorts of wild stuff.

Around 10mcg per spray would be my suggestion for a starting concentration of each - that will let you cover a good dose range with a few sprays till you find what suits you best.

As experimental molecules, P83 and TAC are not covered by the full AD warranty - although they will exchange no-problem if they don’t work for you.

For status - if you need it, you are both in the frame for A314 and mature women are most likely to tune-in to it on an attraction level. The oil is the most natural/smoothest/subtle/longest acting but the /b spray is good for a try-out to see how it goes for you. IG is lighter, more smart/youthful but it is worth considering too.

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**Author:** ![wataru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58f4c7/32.png) [@wataru](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wataru)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-pheromones-to-take-me-and-the-hot-lady-to-the-next-level-m-40s/67074/3 "2017-03-22T21:32:32Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
>
> Welcome - Nope, there are a few of us older guys here too. 🙂
> 
> IME mature women tend to go-on stronger and more overt sexual and status/sexual signatures compared to younger women, esp with an established partner and it looks like you might want something fun/feelgood and with a bit of disinhibition to steer things the way you want. 🙂
> 
> So to that end, I would suggest the 5mcg version of TUTH as you main sexual - as we age, we produce less Androstenone and as women age, they tend to like more of it - sometimes a lot more!
> 
> For steering, Instant Shine is a good fun/feelgood product that complements most mones nicely and can be used standalone as a social in the widest range of situations.
> 
> The experimental molecules TAC and P83 are pertinent - TAC, in doses over 20mcg has been found to help with “letting go” in bed and is a good one to get goofy/playful/rather adventurous with.
> 
> P83 is a physical disinhibitor that helps with getting in to the mood to get down to all sorts of wild stuff.
> 
> Around 10mcg per spray would be my suggestion for a starting concentration of each - that will let you cover a good dose range with a few sprays till you find what suits you best.
> 
> As experimental molecules, P83 and TAC are not covered by the full AD warranty - although they will exchange no-problem if they don’t work for you.
> 
> For status - if you need it, you are both in the frame for A314 and mature women are most likely to tune-in to it on an attraction level. The oil is the most natural/smoothest/subtle/longest acting but the /b spray is good for a try-out to see how it goes for you. IG is lighter, more smart/youthful but it is worth considering too.

Thank you for this good advice !

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**Author:** ![vynelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/41988e/32.png) [@vynelle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vynelle)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-pheromones-to-take-me-and-the-hot-lady-to-the-next-level-m-40s/67074/4 "2017-03-22T22:10:49Z")

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Hey Wataru, warmest welcome here! I think mobcaster pretty much covered most of it. His advice was most interesting to read too 🙂

Anyway was wondering if your lady would be interested in wearing [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) when she’s with you? Cos I find that it’ll be quite hot also if she amps up with pheromones with you. Its like a breathe of new attraction but with the same person. Its kinda what happened to me. I used pheromones to re-new somesort of attraction in the bedroom especially haha 🙂 Im the same person, but when I first started using my man kept saying something is different but he couldnt quite put his finger on it. It was kinda funny.

Also it really gets the guy going again in a different way especially after being with the same person for many years. Also I find that some pheromones kinda works on myself while trying to get the guy to be more fiery in the bedroom. Omg I feel kinda embarrass talking about this. HAHA.

Anyway I thought of TUTH. (TURN UP THE HEAT) I have read many stories about it and been also contemplating to try cos I have heard how its suppose to get the guy to seem more sexual but females are also reporting self effects, seems to get them going too. Im not sure if it works on more mature woman. But feel free to check it out too and see if its matches your situation, I included the link here for you [the reviews from many](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 8:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-pheromones-to-take-me-and-the-hot-lady-to-the-next-level-m-40s/67074/5 "2017-03-23T08:22:24Z")

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Mobocaster gave superb advice!

I’m not young and clubbing but I’m just about 30. And I’ve been with many women over 40 wearing TUTH. This definitely got them all hot and wild.

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**Author:** ![wataru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58f4c7/32.png) [@wataru](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wataru)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-pheromones-to-take-me-and-the-hot-lady-to-the-next-level-m-40s/67074/6 "2017-03-24T12:16:11Z")

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> [@vynelle](#):
>
> Hey Wataru, warmest welcome here! I think mobcaster pretty much covered most of it. His advice was most interesting to read too 🙂
> 
> Anyway was wondering if your lady would be interested in wearing pheromones when she’s with you? Cos I find that it’ll be quite hot also if she amps up with pheromones with you. Its like a breathe of new attraction but with the same person. Its kinda what happened to me. I used pheromones to re-new somesort of attraction in the bedroom especially haha 🙂 Im the same person, but when I first started using my man kept saying something is different but he couldnt quite put his finger on it. It was kinda funny.
> 
> Also it really gets the guy going again in a different way especially after being with the same person for many years. Also I find that some pheromones kinda works on myself while trying to get the guy to be more fiery in the bedroom. Omg I feel kinda embarrass talking about this. HAHA.
> 
> Anyway I thought of TUTH. (TURN UP THE HEAT) I have read many stories about it and been also contemplating to try cos I have heard how its suppose to get the guy to seem more sexual but females are also reporting self effects, seems to get them going too. Im not sure if it works on more mature woman. But feel free to check it out too and see if its matches your situation, I included the link here for you [the reviews from many](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) 🙂

Hi vynelle,  
It sure seems like a good idea to get some mones for the lady as well. When I’m done testing with the testing pack I will add something for her as well. Any good suggestions? also what is your best experiece with female social/status nomes because you could use some as well. she’s a nurse and people tend to be superstressed in her work environment. something that could make people treat her a bit nicer ?

wataru

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**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-pheromones-to-take-me-and-the-hot-lady-to-the-next-level-m-40s/67074/7 "2017-03-24T17:24:41Z")

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Welcome to PheromoneTalk, wataru. 🙂

Your intro GC is now in your email. 🙂

You can use it for your next order. IShine and ISexinessB for her, or if you have the budget, the Instant Female Wardrobe, that’s the KillerKit equivalent for women. 🙂

Happy Pheroing! 🙂

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-pheromones-to-take-me-and-the-hot-lady-to-the-next-level-m-40s/67074/8 "2017-03-26T22:55:08Z")

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Hello wataru!

You got great suggestions already. You could always try the men’s ultimate kit and just add the IS/B and IS/A and you would essentially have both the men’s and women’s version of the kits as IO, IH, and IShine are more social and are in both kits pretty much.

If you have any questions please post and good luck!
