# Hello-looking for something.... Couplins???

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**Created:** [March 14, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-something-couplins/54920 "2012-03-14T08:56:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Clear345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Clear345](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Clear345)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-something-couplins/54920/1 "2012-03-14T08:56:56Z")

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**Hi, I guess I came on here a year ago but didn’t do anything? so I am going to try this out. I am a 30 year old female and I live in the Midwest. I love to go out, although due to my occupation, I am actually rather busy and have trouble getting out when I want to. I work insane hours and truly believe in the work hard play hard philosophy.**

**Although in small group settings I can come off as shy and reserved (because I get anxious in smaller groups), in larger group settings such as bars, clubs, etc?I am known more as the instigator or ?catalyst? (actually a nickname) for most of the trouble (a/k/a fun) that occurs. Any amount of liquid courage at all and I am immediately confident and would say I put off a pretty good vibe.**

**I am petite, 5?4 -5?5 about 110 lbs., athletic body and a sometimes more aggressive personality (I will say what I mean? not sexually aggressive)?. In my job it comes with the territory. I work with almost all males? in fact currently the only females in my office are administrative assistants.**

**I am looking for pheromones to have some fun and do some experimenting. I go out and get bought shots, hit on, etc?. but I would like to try this stuff out and have some fun.**

**What I honestly want is something that is jaw dropping (Who’s that girl) yet I don’t want to lose the ability to have guys still approach me. I do not need to add to my aggressive personality. I am also with someone and wouldn’t mine some stellar reactions from him. I want to run some tests and see what pheromones can do. The one I have seen the most about is EOW? but have also seen mixed reviews. I think I want something that is pretty powerful (Jaw dropper), but I also need to maintain approachability. Any suggestions welcome.**

**I also would lay off anything heavy at work… don’t need that kind of grief.**

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**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-something-couplins/54920/2 "2012-03-14T11:07:46Z")

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Hello and welcome to the forum Clear!

Do you know how you found us (looks like 2 years ago!)?

For wanting to go out and get hit on, I suggest you consider a few options. A good sexual pheromone for women is IS/B, which will help give off a sexy vibe for you.

Others to consider are some of the socials. You suggest you are a little shy/anxious around small groups until the liquor flows, I suggest [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for that, as its great for confidence and good moods. IO is good for opening people up and giving off that icebreaker type setting. Depending how deep you want to get into conversation, IH will help with that.

I cant offer much about EOW, but I am sure people can comment.

Good luck!

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**Author:** ![Clear345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Clear345](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Clear345)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-something-couplins/54920/3 "2012-03-14T14:43:38Z")

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Not sure how I found this forum years ago. The other day I ordered Primal Instinct and EOW, which hasn’t arrived yet, but then saw some reviews to check out this forum/company instead.

I already come off as pretty Alpha for a female… it’s the lawyer thing. So I want to get some stuff to mix in to take the edge off… I usually end up with protective guys even with the Alpha vibe which is much more what I go for. So I guess I need something to add some let’s say “vulnerability.” I have no clue how you mix or layer any of this so it should be interesting…

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**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-something-couplins/54920/4 "2012-03-14T17:18:25Z")

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Hey there! That vulnerability your talking about is something you can get from [instant sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/). You may also get some benefit from instant shine for a more positive and welcoming glow.

For your Couplins be sure to check out the womens section and search for mixing instructions… Its been discussed before, usually that stuff needs to be diluted.

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-something-couplins/54920/5 "2012-03-15T02:45:52Z")

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> [@Clear345](#):
>
> _ **Hi, I guess I came on here a year ago but didn’t do anything? so I am going to try this out. I am a 30 year old female and I live in the Midwest. I love to go out, although due to my occupation, I am actually rather busy and have trouble getting out when I want to. I work insane hours and truly believe in the work hard play hard philosophy.** _
> 
> _**Although in small group settings I can come off as shy and reserved (because I get anxious in smaller groups), in larger group settings such as bars, clubs, etc?I am known more as the instigator or ?catalyst? (actually a nickname) for most of the trouble (a/k/a fun) that occurs. Any amount of liquid courage at all and I am immediately confident and would say I put off a pretty good vibe.**_
> 
> _**I am petite, 5?4 -5?5 about 110 lbs., athletic body and a sometimes more aggressive personality (I will say what I mean? not sexually aggressive)?. In my job it comes with the territory. I work with almost all males? in fact currently the only females in my office are administrative assistants.**_
> 
> _ **I am looking for pheromones to have some fun and do some experimenting. I go out and get bought shots, hit on, etc?. but I would like to try this stuff out and have some fun.** _
> 
> _**What I honestly want is something that is jaw dropping (Who’s that girl) yet I don’t want to lose the ability to have guys still approach me. I do not need to add to my aggressive personality. I am also with someone and wouldn’t mine some stellar reactions from him. I want to run some tests and see what pheromones can do. The one I have seen the most about is EOW? but have also seen mixed reviews. I think I want something that is pretty powerful (Jaw dropper), but I also need to maintain approachability. Any suggestions welcome.**_
> 
> _ **I also would lay off anything heavy at work… don’t need that kind of grief.** _

> [@Clear345](#):
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> _ **Not sure how I found this forum years ago. The other day I ordered Primal Instinct and EOW, which hasn’t arrived yet, but then saw some reviews to check out this forum/company instead.** _
> 
> _ **I already come off as pretty Alpha for a female… it’s the lawyer thing. So I want to get some stuff to mix in to take the edge off… I usually end up with protective guys even with the Alpha vibe which is much more what I go for. So I guess I need something to add some let’s say “vulnerability.” I have no clue how you mix or layer any of this so it should be interesting…** _

Hi, Clear! Welcome!

You found this forum… _a year ago_? Dayum, girl, it’s about time you showed up! 😃 You’ve been missin’ all the fun! 😛

The boys suggestion of IS/B is a good one. It was one of my all time favorites. A long time ago there was also an IS/A, too, but neither one is available anymore and there’s been no word if/when they’re ever coming back. However, you’re in luck! After a long absence TAL and TAH are now available again and in the store. _ **RUN…** _ no joke,because there’s no telling when they will disappear again.

I’m petite, too, but with a curvy build and very girly/feminine in both gestures and appearance. Which belies my underlying alpha/assertive edge. 🆒 The flag ship women’s products at AD were IS/A and IS/B. They both contained the feminine molecules TAL and TAH but in different proportions and they alsohad other unknown molecules added to them.

So, the difference between TAL and TAH…

TAL = Angelina Jolie - projects a strong, confident, sexy, take no prisoners alpha-babe vibe. Great for giving a “boost” to gals who need a little more confidence or who want to project a more alpha aura. It also works great for some already alpha-babes who have NP with it. Despite being alpha, instead of wrestling with, it they ride it like Yakima Canutt! Although for women like you/me, it can be a little too much of a good thing because already naturally being in alpha-babe territory, I don’t really need that kinda push or to project that kind of image.

TAH = Marilyn Monroe - projects a softer, sexy, more kittenish vibe. This is the one that has the edge of vulnerability you’re looking for. 😉 Yup, you sound like a TAH girl to me. So am I. I might mention that my husband _loooves_ TAH and can’t seem to resist me when I wear it. TAL scares him and he don’t scare easy, lol.

I’ll never forget when I first started getting into all this and I was describing the effects of some of the various [pheromones](https://a314.com/) to my husband. When I got to TAL, he looked at me 😮, and said, “You don’t have any of _that_ do you?!” ROFL. Why, yes, in fact I do! 😛

Some women find IS/B or TAH makes them feel a bit “ditsy” or _too_ vulnerable. Reasons for that, well… if they’re a little ditsy to begin with this might not be the best choice, lol. Or they’re already feeling vulnerable before applying it, whether it be conscious or unconscious, and it can bring those feelings rushing to the surface. And other women find that TAH is just what it takes to soften their more assertive edge. Go figure. All kinds of possibilities, you see.

Which one attracts alpha-guys and which one attracts beta-guys? Both are attractive and both attract both alpha and beta guys. A lotta both in there, lol. How well either will work for you depends. It always depends, lol. It also depends on how _you_ feel when wearing them.

TAL might get me hits but I don’t wear it too much, especially by itself 😮, because I feel too ramped up. The uncomfortable feeling of having to wrestle with the _self_ effects makes it uncomfortable. So, to counter act/balance out that feeling while at the same time getting the reactions I want from it, I temper it with softer/social molecules. We often use TAL and TAH together to balance the effects of one with the other.

For example, if you want to lessen the self effects of TAL, spray it to the back of your neck/head and TAH, up front, to the neck/chest area where you can huff it. I say _lessen_ because no matter where you spray it you _will_ be effected, just somewhat less.

OK, onward. Shy and reserved in small gatherings and can let loose in larger groups. IO and IH can help you there. I’d go with IO for self effects if you’re planning to be with just a few people. That should help you to open up more and make it easier for you to approach others and to also be more approachable at the same time. Where IO is described as more quantity of conversation than quality, IH is known for inspiring a deeper more intimate feeling of connection and more quality conversation. It makes it seem as if you and your target have known each other for a long time. That could also work well for you depending on the circumstances and your choice of companion(s).

And don’t forget the IShine! It imparts a bright, shiny, fun to be around _you_ vibe. One can never go wrong icing the cake with IShine. 🙂

So, how all and any of this works _depends_ on numerous variables. Pheromones are/can be very mood directed. Pheromones can work for or against your personality type. If TAL or TAH, or any other pheromone/MX/putative doesn’t work for you/work as expected, or as others have reported, the reason could be as simple as it not agreeing with your personal chemistry. Because just as your individual targets reactions might vary, so will your reactions. So, again, it depends.

EoW at work? Yeah. No thanks, lol. Although a lot of women wear it and I’m sure it does what they want it to do, that’s exactly why I _don’t_ wear it. 😉 To each her own. 🙂

Here’s the skinny… Essence of Woman is synthetic copulins manufactured in a lab to mimic the effect of natural copulins that are produced/emitted by women in their fertile years at the time of ovulation. (It’s a call of the wild, baby, and part of the mating game. Time to procreate!) Because it’s synthetic it has added elements (scents) that somewhat mimic the “earthier” smells in nature. So, primarily, it stinks! Despite what’s been said about the stench of it, it works _extremely_ well for sexual attraction. We wear it because it’s a man magnet and works like a charm. Albeit a smelly little charm, lol. Copulins do have a vinegary/fermented fruit/earthy smell and that’s why it’s important to take the necessary steps to cover them up with perfume/cologne. Don’t let the smell scare you, it’s eminently workable, with a little patience and practice you’ll figure it out. The ladies who have taken the time to learn to use it correctly have all come out alive, well, and well-laid on the other side, lol. Yeah, we’re still here, using Essence of Woman, because it does exactly what it claims to do… _attract men!_ That’s why we hold our noses and use it, lol.

Women, no matter their age, who are on The Pill do not make copulins and neither do women who are _past_ menopause.

There are some places that you’re better off staying away from when applying Essence of Woman. Depending on where you’ve applied it, it can be a bugger to wash out. Essence of Woman belongs on your skin, not on clothing and _never in your hair_ because it sticks like a mo-fo! Also, instead of applying Essence of Woman _after_ applying your pheromones/perfume, apply it first. And after you apply it, it’s very important to make sure to let it dry down for a good 10-15 mins before applying any other pheromones/perfume over it or you risk bleed through of the stench.

There are tons of threads to search throughout the forum on EoW. Here’s one I responded to awhile back that might shed some light for you on the different ways you can use EoW.

> [@EOW and perfume](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eow-and-perfume/51671):
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> Hi all, I’m new at this. I am considering ordering Essence of Woman and am wondering if I can add it to an essential oil or if it is best used with alcohol-based scents?

Hmmm, you want jaw dropping? Try adding some IO, IShine, TAH, and a few drops of EoW to your “liquid courage”… and shake that up in a red dress… and while your at it, put 911 on speed dial! 😃

It’s nice to have you here, Clear. Hope that helps some. Just boogie on over to the women’s forum if you have more any more questions. See ya there!

Bella

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-something-couplins/54920/6 "2012-03-15T13:41:24Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Clear!

Bella has covered all areas and then some. You will learn loads from the lovely bella, tish and silly kitty.

I am glad you finally decided to introduce yourself and look forward to seeing you around.

_ **Your gc was issued!** _

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**Author:** ![Clear345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Clear345](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Clear345)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-something-couplins/54920/7 "2012-03-15T20:57:06Z")

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Wow… thanks for all the help. I am going to definitely get some TAH, IO and IS. This weekend all I will be working with is my EoW and Primal which comes in tomorrow. any ideas on how much to start off with or how to combine? I will be using it for St. Pattys, out at bars… pretty crowded area. I definitely would love any tips suggestions. I will check out your other post as well.

And EoW at work will not be happening. Way to risky. Also not interested in any additional attention like that there.

So if I have long hair should I avoid EOW on the back of my neck? Also, I wear Villain for my perfume (FYI I have never had so many compliments from guys on perfume until I just recently switched to Villain) will any perfume cover EOW well?

Thanks for all the great suggestions and comments.

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-something-couplins/54920/8 "2012-03-16T02:14:56Z")

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You’re very welcome. 😉

At first, this can all be a bit overwhelming. So, I just wanted to give you a quick mini crash course on some of the products/reported effects, especially TAL/TAH, so you could quickly find what might best suit your immediate needs. I know you don’t have the time for the whole “tutorial” on pheromones right this minute and you’re also busy with work, but when you do have a few minutes to spare you might want to peruse the stickies at the top of each forum. They’re a guide to getting started with pheromones and you’ll find a lot of answers to some frequently asked questions right there. In particular, make sure to check out - “How to Find Your Sweet Spot”, that’s very helpful/important. You don’t want or need to over use (too many sprays/drops) because more isn’t necessarily better/more effective. If less will do ya, to achieve the reactions you’re looking for, then there’s no need to use more and waste expensive product. In fact, you’ll want to check out all the sticky threads. I’m tellin’ ya, if you take the time to piece this together/experiment, you’d be surprised how you can learn to work these molecules to your advantage. That could come in very handy in your profession.

So, to the question at hand. This weekend you won’t yet have the stuff we mentioned but you’ll still have fun with what you’ve got to work with. Yes, you can wear EoW on the back of your neck just don’t apply it too close to your hairline. I have long hair and do it all the time. I pin up my hair and leave it up during dry down so it doesn’t accidentally brush the EoW and get wet. While the EoW dries I just go about my business laying out clothes, putting on make up, etc. By then the EoW is dry and then I spray whatever else I want over it. Usually it’s pheromones next, if I’m wearing them, then I cover the whole she-bang with my fragrance, let that dry for a few more minutes and then get dressed.

Primal Instinct/w is listed in The Phero Library at Love Scent - _**“11mg of A-Nol per 10mL bottle with an undisclosed quantity of Copulins. 1.1 mg/mL of A-Nol + ? Cops (.11%).”**_ So, we don’t know the exact mgs of copulins it contains.

PI/w has AlphaAndrostenol in it which should work out well because that’s what’s also primarily in IO, which you won’t received by St.Patty’s Day. EoW is straight copulins, nothing else, and you can wear them with anything your little heart desires. We don’t know the exact percentage of cops in Primal because it’s “undisclosed”. Using 2-3 more drops of EoW, along with Primal, isn’t going to hurt because you can’t really OD on cops. But that doesn’t mean you should go ape shit, especially on your first go-round, so just go with 2-3 drops. You might find, right off the bat, that’s all you need. Just a few drops can be very effective and, again, more ain’t necessarily any better/more effective. Also you don’t want to use more than needed because more drops of EoW = more EoW stink to cover. Less stinky to cover = better. 🙂 Trust me, lol. It’s all about finding your “sweet spot”. 😉

I’m not familiar with Villain but if it isn’t a light fleeting cologne on it’s own, then it should work well enough to cover EoW. Just be sure to let the EoW dry down like a good girl, (we all hate waiting!), and you should be fine. If you find that Villain isn’t strong enough to cover the stink, then you’ll need to find a stronger fragrance to do the job. You’ll just have to take it out for a spin and see.

Also, you’ll probably be dancin’ your tush off and might perspire a bit. So, don’t be surprised if you get a faint whiff of EoW once in a while. Don’t panic. Just sit down and cool off for a minute, lol. Most people won’t smell it and if you are actually pinpointed you can always say it’s a new cologne you’re trying and for some unknown reason it doesn’t seem to mesh with your chemistry and morphed into something else. Oh, well. It happens. Wanna dance? 😃 Or come back to my place and help wash it off? 🙂 😮

My suggestion for your first spin out - 2 drops Primal/w and 2 drops EoW.

The best place to apply any scent is to your pulse points because they heat up and that’s good for diffusion of the molecules. You don’t necessarily have to layer all your products on top of one another in the same spot. But, SOP, the rule is, when using EoW, if you are going to apply _any_ other products directly over it… EoW _always_ goes on first, gets a proper dry down and then other products are applied over top. Say, one drop of EoW spread behind your neck and one spread down your torso. (Make sure to wash your fingers very well with soap if you use them to apply the EoW or you’ll smell it on your hands every time you raise them to your face!) You could divide the drops of Primal between the sides of your neck and between the insides of your wrists/elbows. Make sure they’re dry, then spray on your Villain.

OK, kiddo, good luck, go knock 'em dead! We’ll be waiting to hear how it goes. 🆒 Have a blast! And please do come back and please _do_ tell. 😃

Bella

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**Author:** ![Clear345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Clear345](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Clear345)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 11:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-looking-for-something-couplins/54920/9 "2012-03-19T11:39:21Z")

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Hmmm… well EoW is sooo hard to cover. I waited and waited and still could smell it alot even after cover. But We were in large groups both times and I am sure I am the only person that noticed. I am not sure about Primal, but EoW works! Holy cow does it work. In fact I think I will be using a little less next time. My guy is probably the least protective or jealous guy I have ever been with, but when I was wearing EoW his hands never left me the entire night. Also, lets just say when we got home his hands didn’t leave me for hours. Pretty sure in the interest of less bruises and more sleep I will wear a little less. But boy is that stuff fun. I am used to attention at bars, but not like this. Literally walking up and talking to me and buying we drinks while I have another guys arm around me. It was crazy!
